"Walker Signs Bill Outlawing Lies About Military Service"

2015-07-02T18:26:40-04:00

From: Fox21 Online
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Gov. Scott Walker has signed a bill that makes lying about military service a crime.

The Republican bill makes falsely claiming military service or a military award a misdemeanor punishable by up to nine months in jail and $10,000 in fines.

If someone makes those claims intending to commit or aid another crime he or she would be guilty of a felony punishable by up to six years in prison and $10,000 in fines.

Walker signed the bill Wednesday.

The Assembly passed the measure in April. The Senate followed suit in May.

http://www.fox21online.com/news/local-news/Walker-Signs-Bill-Outlawing-Lies-About-Military-Service/33935776

Response by SGT Richard H. made Jul 2 at 2015 6:29 PM

2015-07-02T18:29:39-04:00

Good for Governor Walker, and good for Wisconsin. I hope other States follow suit! Enforcement may be somewhat cumbersome, so I would think this would end up ferreting out at least some of the more blatant fakes, but the ordinary bar room-ranger will probably get mostly overlooked.

Response by CAPT Kevin B. made Jul 2 at 2015 6:31 PM

2015-07-02T18:31:36-04:00

I'd only ask that our service members don't go vigilante on this stuff. Stolen valor is an issue but keep cool when dealing with it.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 2 at 2015 8:48 PM

2015-07-02T20:48:57-04:00

We need SGM Davis to hope us out lobby more states for laws like this.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 2 at 2015 9:02 PM

2015-07-02T21:02:53-04:00

A fake...is a fake...is a fake. Go Wisconsin, thank you for you leadership.

Response by SSG Jeffrey Spencer made Jul 3 at 2015 4:50 PM

2015-07-03T16:50:33-04:00

Someone get a big magnet - QUICK!

Response by SFC Bill Graham made Jul 3 at 2015 4:56 PM

2015-07-03T16:56:12-04:00

Good! Lets see some of these posers perpetuate walked in their fake uniforms..

Response by SGT Don Matyja made Jul 3 at 2015 5:01 PM

2015-07-03T17:01:26-04:00

i thought there all ready in place about being a PX SOLDER

Response by CW3 Richard Mann made Jul 3 at 2015 5:01 PM

2015-07-03T17:01:28-04:00

Nice!

Response by CPO Jon Campbell made Jul 3 at 2015 5:07 PM

2015-07-03T17:07:18-04:00

A much more effective approach to dealing with Solen Valor situations is to 1) Have SV designated as a type of mental illness by the mental health community 2) Have states allow police and magistrates to commit people accused of SV to a mental facility for 72 hours observation. It would be a much stronger deterent to a person if local LE could take them for a mental evaluation rather than depend on the feds to investigate and charge someone with a felony for something that is quite often a symptom of mental illness. Very few of these cases ever go forward and attention people get - even from being called out - is what they crave. What they need is treatment before their fantasies take them further down the road to mental instability.

Response by SSG Scott Burk made Jul 3 at 2015 8:00 PM

2015-07-03T20:00:41-04:00

This guy is more F'd up than a plastic football bat.

Response by PO2 Peter Klein made Jul 3 at 2015 10:02 PM

2015-07-03T22:02:56-04:00

Walker finally does something worthwhile.

Response by SSG Christopher Conklin made Jul 4 at 2015 10:18 AM

2015-07-04T10:18:29-04:00

That is great and about time

Response by SSG Christopher Conklin made Jul 4 at 2015 10:18 AM

2015-07-04T10:18:51-04:00

it about time

Response by LCpl Mark Lefler made Jul 4 at 2015 11:34 AM

2015-07-04T11:34:33-04:00

You know what else he's signing a bill that will take away transparency in government.

Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 4 at 2015 4:34 PM

2015-07-04T16:34:34-04:00

Rally Point staff should take a little more time writing these articles. Who's Walker? What state does he represent? Have a little pride in what you write.

Response by PO1 John Miller made Jul 4 at 2015 4:43 PM

2015-07-04T16:43:36-04:00

RallyPoint Shared Content, it's about time! Now if the rest of the states passed similar bills!

Response by PO1 John Miller made Jul 4 at 2015 4:44 PM

2015-07-04T16:44:47-04:00

RallyPoint Shared Content, isn't this basically the exact same thing as the Stolen Valor Act of 2013?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 5 at 2015 12:51 AM

2015-07-05T00:51:53-04:00

A lot of states like NY already have real laws in place to put these clowns away. If their fake either jail or a mental institute since that's the popular defense... Maybe I'll have a mental issues when I beat one of them half to death.

Response by SR Nicholas Sorady made Jul 7 at 2015 2:05 PM

2015-07-07T14:05:47-04:00

I'm just kinda done with this whole thing. Anyone who's been or has familiy that's been in can tell a faker, and anyone who hasn't....usually doesn't care either way.
Yes, it's offensive that someone wears things they didn't earn....but I feel that so many people ruin outings with their families by starting shit with the fakers. Then your in a shitty mood all the rest of the outing, and for what? Some dumbshit that really isn't even worth the oxygen they breathe.
It's a challenge for me too sometimes, but let it go. Give your spouse or child an extra hug and go enjoy yourself for the day. Any brothers and sisters earned it.

Response by LCpl Raymond Johnson made Jul 8 at 2015 8:29 AM

2015-07-08T08:29:30-04:00

Anyone know what Florida's policy is on stolen valor?

Response by CPL Nick Kulik made Jul 8 at 2015 7:14 PM

2015-07-08T19:14:31-04:00

Those ppl are pieces of shit. Don't have what it takes to be a soldier

Response by SSG Jason Robinson made Jul 8 at 2015 8:04 PM

2015-07-08T20:04:37-04:00

Now PX Rangers can do jail time. That might stop them?

Response by SrA Christopher Balser made Jul 8 at 2015 10:21 PM

2015-07-08T22:21:49-04:00

Im glad to see someone is finally taking this serious. Thank you.

Response by Sgt Daniel Albrecht made Jul 9 at 2015 6:37 AM

2015-07-09T06:37:22-04:00

If you are going to lie go big.....

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 9 at 2015 9:23 AM

2015-07-09T09:23:39-04:00

Mental Illness? Please this cannot be characterized like so many other excuses as a reason these people are the victims. They know full well what they are doing. It takes a lot to dress up and seek attention. I will not concede this to mental illness. It is selfish, as well as seeking handouts and notoriety.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 9 at 2015 12:42 PM

2015-07-09T12:42:44-04:00

Bout damn time

Response by GySgt Scott Hill made Jul 9 at 2015 1:35 PM

2015-07-09T13:35:16-04:00

Stolen Valor has been going on for years. We use to have people come into the recruiting office and tell us war stories and instead of calling them out, we just asked questions and laughed at their responses. Good Times.

Response by PFC Nekah Dmitriyeva made Jul 9 at 2015 2:24 PM

2015-07-09T14:24:06-04:00

It's about time people stop taking credit for something they never did.

Response by LtCol Dennis Ivan made Jul 9 at 2015 9:32 PM

2015-07-09T21:32:19-04:00

Unfortunately, it wont stand challenge. The SCOTUS already ruled on this against the stolen valor act calling impersonation "free speech". Only attempting to profit from it is punishable.

Response by PO3 Michael Bahas made Jul 10 at 2015 8:36 AM

2015-07-10T08:36:26-04:00

About time

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 10 at 2015 9:43 AM

2015-07-10T09:43:55-04:00

Will this include anyone wearing a military uniform?

Response by SPC Michael Harville made Jul 10 at 2015 10:33 AM

2015-07-10T10:33:03-04:00

* This is a complete non-issue. Anyone who has ever served can spot a fake in about 30 seconds, and should take appropriate action. Perhaps someone should ask Gov. Walker to do something about the homeless, jobless vets in his state instead of wasting time on asshats and pogues

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 10 at 2015 11:55 AM

2015-07-10T11:55:28-04:00

Isnt Stolen Valor already punishable by law? So that would make this bill redundant.

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 10 at 2015 1:11 PM

2015-07-10T13:11:25-04:00

Good It's about time

Response by Sgt Robert Evers made Jul 10 at 2015 2:10 PM

2015-07-10T14:10:19-04:00

I think it is too funny when you ask one of the fake where they were and what they did and they have no idea, especially when you ask them if they are "SHELLBACKS" and they don't know how to respond because they don't know what a SHELLBACK IS !

Response by PVT Gary Barner made Jul 10 at 2015 3:12 PM

2015-07-10T15:12:58-04:00

So all the PX wannabes are gonna get fined and punished?

Response by LCpl Ed Lamb made Jul 10 at 2015 3:19 PM

2015-07-10T15:19:10-04:00

Be careful. We had a Vietnam Vet here falsely accused, and accosted verbally in public by a Harrisburg police officer. AND the officer was also an old Marine.

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2015/06/harrisburg_mayor_stolen_valor_1.html

Harrisburg mayor arranges personal apology, says police can learn from mistaken 'stolen valor'...

Harrisburg Mayor Eric Papenfuse said Detective John O'Connor and Capt. Deric Moody want to meet with Robert Ford, of Marysville, to apologize for the way they handled a "stolen valor" complaint by an Army soldier who was suspicious of the uniform worn by Ford at ArtsFest. Ford served as a Marine from 1958 to 1964.

Response by SSG Michael Hursh made Jul 10 at 2015 3:42 PM

2015-07-10T15:42:37-04:00

Anybody should be able to tell that this guy pictured is just a clown. Don't think he should go to prison unless he was involved in some other fraudulent activity.

Response by SGT Dennis Cabassa made Jul 10 at 2015 7:36 PM

2015-07-10T19:36:18-04:00

Most of the time you can spot them pretty quick and know they are frauds because their uniforms are not right the tricky ones are those who have a copy of AR 670-1

Response by SPC Scott Schroeder made Jul 10 at 2015 7:44 PM

2015-07-10T19:44:09-04:00

Wow! Walker and his administration actually doing something sort of good on the behalf of the military.

Response by SN Larry Ferrell made Jul 10 at 2015 11:09 PM

2015-07-10T23:09:49-04:00

I don't think it goes quite far enough

Response by SrA Derek Whitley made Jul 11 at 2015 12:35 AM

2015-07-11T00:35:47-04:00

Great start, but now need it to go national.

Response by SrA Shannon Cupples made Jul 11 at 2015 1:33 AM

2015-07-11T01:33:28-04:00

I agree it needs to be nationwide.

Response by FN Justen Gentry made Jul 11 at 2015 4:21 AM

2015-07-11T04:21:23-04:00

I appreciate that being passed. I'm so tired of people falsely claiming to be military. If you don't have the guts to actually do what we do then keep your mouth shut.

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 11 at 2015 5:50 AM

2015-07-11T05:50:56-04:00

Id be fine with a bitch slap.

Response by LCpl Richard Etue made Jul 11 at 2015 7:28 AM

2015-07-11T07:28:20-04:00

At least someone has the balls to finally do something about this craziness!

Response by Cpl Jan Molina-Gonzalez made Jul 11 at 2015 12:22 PM

2015-07-11T12:22:00-04:00

It was about time. It is something that upsets me. Many brave men and woman have bled because of the simple fact of wearing that uniform. They deserve to be respected and the uniform should be worn with pride and only by those who have earn it. Not by any shit head out there who think is kool.

Response by SPC Kenneth Hoover made Jul 11 at 2015 1:51 PM

2015-07-11T13:51:57-04:00

I agree with this 100%. If you want the recognition and valor then join the military like the rest of us.

Response by SN Jason Barth made Jul 11 at 2015 2:22 PM

2015-07-11T14:22:40-04:00

If people want to pose as veterans to get sympathy or money or recognition then I say send them to basic training as their sentence. Nothing easy though, needs to be USMC or Army then sign them up for infantry. Sorry Air Force don't know much about your boot, and the Navy boot was a joke... I was challenged more in Boy Scouts!

Response by PO1 James Scorrano made Jul 11 at 2015 3:07 PM

2015-07-11T15:07:50-04:00

I served and gave my ALL while serving...People who pretend to do what I lived make me sick/mad!

Response by PO3 Joseph Brinker made Jul 11 at 2015 11:27 PM

2015-07-11T23:27:09-04:00

If Walker has anything to do with it, take it's worth for what it is 'ZERO"

Response by CDR Red Mulvanny made Jul 12 at 2015 12:49 AM

2015-07-12T00:49:23-04:00

One more reason to like Scott Walker.

Response by SPC David Love made Jul 12 at 2015 1:17 PM

2015-07-12T13:17:10-04:00

Finally something is being done about these stolen Valor characters . I honestly think they should be made to join whatever branch there perpetrating

Response by SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. made Jul 12 at 2015 1:42 PM

2015-07-12T13:42:34-04:00

Didn't someone sign this into Federal Law in January 2013?

Response by Cpl Mychal Miller made Jul 12 at 2015 3:43 PM

2015-07-12T15:43:14-04:00

nice...

Response by PO3 Brad Donnelly made Jul 12 at 2015 3:54 PM

2015-07-12T15:54:56-04:00

Great. 1 issue resolved. Maybe someone in our government can begin to resolve real issues like benefits for all of us. I don't really believe any representative needs another "cost of living" raise but we do.

Response by LCpl Juan Rives made Jul 12 at 2015 9:52 PM

2015-07-12T21:52:33-04:00

I think this is a good idea. Recently I was at Lowes and I asked them if there is a Military Veteran Discount. They said yea and took 10% off my purchase. I asked the clerk "aren't you going to ask to see my VA Card?" She didn't know she could ask. I think if you get more and more people asking to see Veteran IDs or State IDs with veteran on it, you might see a drop in poserS

Response by SPC Lawanda Boddie made Jul 12 at 2015 10:30 PM

2015-07-12T22:30:50-04:00

What happens to those who make false claims against a person? What punishment is there for them lying? I'm asking only because I went thru the bull crap and proved the company commander wrong as two left feet. What punishment is there for him and what about me and my ordeal! Please help me understand

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 13 at 2015 12:50 AM

2015-07-13T00:50:11-04:00

It's about time this happens

Response by PO3 Mark Major made Jul 13 at 2015 5:50 AM

2015-07-13T05:50:56-04:00

I am glad for this finally happening. Now, does this cover every state or just this Gov. Scott Walkers state?

Response by PV2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 13 at 2015 8:55 AM

2015-07-13T08:55:02-04:00

Yes!

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 13 at 2015 11:37 AM

2015-07-13T11:37:58-04:00

The only good thing Walker has done to date, but good for him. I hope Minnesota follows suit soon. I have a D-bag at work that deserves many fines.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 13 at 2015 2:47 PM

2015-07-13T14:47:14-04:00

Most of these people have mental health issues. They're not bothering any of us. It doesn't affect me wether someone dresses up in a fake uniform/costume.

Response by Sgt Alexander Dawerdt made Jul 13 at 2015 7:46 PM

2015-07-13T19:46:02-04:00

Outstanding.
Now the flag.

Response by SPC James H Butts Iii made Jul 13 at 2015 9:05 PM

2015-07-13T21:05:01-04:00

Yes it makes me sick to see this happen over and over !!!! Hoooraaa bitchisss! !!!

Response by Sgt Patrick Bryand made Jul 13 at 2015 9:55 PM

2015-07-13T21:55:27-04:00

This is much needed these days. Too many people trying to get unearned respect. Playing on the heart strings & sympathy from honest, hard working people.

Response by PO3 Corey Olmstead made Jul 13 at 2015 10:53 PM

2015-07-13T22:53:24-04:00

I'm glad it is finally illegal to claim military service if you have never rightfully worn the uniform or actually served in any branch.

Response by LCpl Mark Lefler made Jul 13 at 2015 11:19 PM

2015-07-13T23:19:28-04:00

Is there already a federal bill like this?

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 14 at 2015 2:16 PM

2015-07-14T14:16:31-04:00

With people claiming their insides feel like the opposite biological gender that they were born and is supporting that we may as well allow stolen valor and treading on our constitutional rights and communism. Let's be real about the state our country is in. I'm surprised people even join the military anymore.

Response by SPC Tony Himmler made Jul 14 at 2015 3:27 PM

2015-07-14T15:27:41-04:00

People that do that should be punished. Respect! !!!!!!!

Response by PFC Gene Hill made Jul 14 at 2015 4:40 PM

2015-07-14T16:40:57-04:00

Be a man of your words gojr service and position and job was or js a ery importantto parts of a campaign t

Response by CPL Jane Douglas made Jul 14 at 2015 10:31 PM

2015-07-14T22:31:18-04:00

Anyone born raised a and serviced can tell a military soldier is the way we carry ourselves the respect for others

Response by LCpl Corey Weigold made Jul 14 at 2015 11:03 PM

2015-07-14T23:03:19-04:00

How can you verify someone's service?

Response by PO2 Jose Luciani made Jul 15 at 2015 10:28 AM

2015-07-15T10:28:25-04:00

Maybe we are like super heroes to some people and they want to be like superman or you and me lol!!!!

Response by MSG Jay Webb made Jul 15 at 2015 11:53 AM

2015-07-15T11:53:24-04:00

Good for Gov. Walker

Response by SSgt Kayden Smith made Jul 15 at 2015 5:54 PM

2015-07-15T17:54:49-04:00

Well we as Marines know a pussy when we see one.

Response by SSgt Joe Ogletree made Jul 15 at 2015 9:51 PM

2015-07-15T21:51:02-04:00

Hard to believe it took this long

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 16 at 2015 1:16 PM

2015-07-16T13:16:05-04:00

Its about time.

Response by CWO3 Brian Church made Jul 16 at 2015 5:01 PM

2015-07-16T17:01:31-04:00

I seen them. Don't like them but all I do is record them while I ask the questions. Meanwhile, all around see and know they are . The up leaving and then no one to look at a fake.

Response by Cpl Mike Leino made Jul 16 at 2015 6:09 PM

2015-07-16T18:09:33-04:00

Yea! I know it bothers us who have served when people fake it. Good for Wisconsin and Gov. Walker.

Response by SPC Chris Ashman made Jul 16 at 2015 6:10 PM

2015-07-16T18:10:51-04:00

Yes they should be punished. I like the photo here that guy must have raided the PX for all of those ribbons etc..

Response by SSgt Eric Bainbridge made Jul 16 at 2015 11:06 PM

2015-07-16T23:06:15-04:00

Is this really a widespread issue? I've spotted fakes in seconds.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 17 at 2015 5:00 PM

2015-07-17T17:00:31-04:00

I actually pity those that are fake. I get that they want to be one of "us", but "us" are the ones that put in the time, sweat, tears and blood. For that the fakes are dead wrong and should be disciplined. It is up to "us" to maintain the bearing we were taught and deal with the fakes in a humane way. I suggest turning them in to the authorities.

Response by CPL Jordan Gavlinski made Jul 17 at 2015 6:06 PM

2015-07-17T18:06:29-04:00

Hooah about damn time is this in effect in all states and hopefully they raise the jail time to years not months

Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 17 at 2015 11:07 PM

2015-07-17T23:07:01-04:00

I agree with this bill. Military service is something that shouldn't be lied about.

Response by HA Sigmund Seroczynski made Jul 19 at 2015 8:03 AM

2015-07-19T08:03:19-04:00

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2010/05/18/nyregion/18blumenthal.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0&referrer=
Where do we start...

Response by CPL Harry Flinn made Jul 19 at 2015 3:06 PM

2015-07-19T15:06:04-04:00

Well that's good in all , I thought that's why we get I.d cards that state where a veteran . Well anyways glad to hear that someone has taken action on the subject.

Response by SP6 Bernard Vance made Jul 20 at 2015 7:54 PM

2015-07-20T19:54:35-04:00

Stolen Valor,
On the internet I deal with “Stolen Valor every Day from Military Romance scammers, Internet Predators and Terrorist, who steal Pictures of our Soldiers and Officers to hide behind in the attempt to steal and or disgrace out military and many times our Heroes.

The Denigration of a good Soldiers / Officers and the Military by these Internet Predators (Romance Scammers) and Terrorist, trying to make it seem our military are criminals stealing from the countries and people they are protecting. These Terrorist cannot defeat the Soldiers on the battlefield and now are using Military scams to destroy the reputations of our soldiers and officers.

These Terrorist are now physically Targeting the military and soldiers around the world. ISIS (An Islamic Terrorist Organization) is using Facebook to target our military personnel who have Facebook pages. All military personnel have been instructed to delete all military pictures. Supporter of ISIS have already carried out attacks in the United States, France, Canada and tied to in Australia.

Any anyone that says they are military on a social Media should be considered a scammer and Terrorist. This warning will also apply to us and Anti-Scam Hunters, as we are fighting these criminals and terrorist and they will try and stop us along with targeting the military and former military personnel.
Bernard Vance (Former SSG, US ARMY

Do Not Feed The Scammers.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 21 at 2015 12:02 AM

2015-07-21T00:02:29-04:00

I've met people wearing uniforms purchased at local surplus stores. Wearing them to get discounts at certain establishments.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 21 at 2015 3:45 PM

2015-07-21T15:45:34-04:00

The probability of this being enforced is pretty low. This has been illegal for some time as a federal offense but there will always be someone willing to play semantics to get out of it. This E.O needs to be clear and concise to avoid further misrepresentation

Response by CPL Paul Kumli made Jul 23 at 2015 11:38 PM

2015-07-23T23:38:40-04:00

This is something that should be delt harshly. It's takes away from everybody who has ever served their country. Plus, for everybody that has made the ultimate sacrifice to this country. If YOU, where not man enough to serve then why, try to be man enough now, to fake it???

Response by Sgt John C Marple made Jul 24 at 2015 12:44 AM

2015-07-24T00:44:56-04:00

I agree. Stop dishonouring our vets.

Response by SGT George Smead made Nov 22 at 2015 12:56 PM

2015-11-22T12:56:55-05:00

Holy Cow! This "Vet" must have been in every battle since WW2. I personally would strangle him with his coeds if I saw him.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 25 at 2016 10:07 AM

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SCOTUS says it is free speech unless they is financial gain involved.

Response by SSG Christopher Conklin made Nov 13 at 2016 5:22 PM

2016-11-13T17:22:26-05:00

nice to hear

Response by SFC Jim Ruether made Dec 28 at 2017 3:34 PM

2017-12-28T15:34:29-05:00

Quietly remove these individuals from our society. Most hero's in my book avoid the lime light, give credit instead to other members of their units who are deceased and deserve more credit than the survivors. These grand standers should be stripped of their rank and turned loose at the forts front gate like Chuck Connors was in the hit series "Branded" character Jason McCord.

Response by SFC Jim Ruether made Dec 28 at 2017 3:37 PM

2017-12-28T15:37:39-05:00

That's quite the ladder under his Expert Badge? What are the nine bars for? Rifle, grenade, M1, .30 Carbine, M60, SAW, ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Dec 28 at 2017 4:13 PM

2017-12-28T16:13:12-05:00

This guy was great but heard he walked too close to a an auto crusher and got sucked in by the big magnet.

Response by SFC Jim Ruether made Dec 28 at 2017 5:16 PM

2017-12-28T17:16:08-05:00

Maybe you climb that ladder to get a look at the fruit salad on his chest?

Response by SFC Ralph E Kelley made Oct 6 at 2019 10:33 AM

2019-10-06T10:33:21-04:00

Gotta read this bill. However I don't live in Wisconsin.