Vietnam: Which of these two candidates is most honorable in your opinion?

Sgt Jerry Genesio — Sat, 30 Mar 2019 13:56:44 -0400

Yesterday, March 29, was National Vietnam War Veterans Day. Which of these two candidates is most honorable in your opinion?

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Mar 30 at 2019 2:07 PM

PO1 William "Chip" Nagel — Sat, 30 Mar 2019 14:07:13 -0400

Not a Hard Question, Sen and Capt USN John McCain.

Response by SFC George Smith made Mar 30 at 2019 2:07 PM

SFC George Smith — Sat, 30 Mar 2019 14:07:59 -0400

I Honor And Respect Anyone Who Serves Honorably And Does Not Dodge Responsibility...
But I Know McCain and His Escapades And Will Yield To Others …
Don't Recognize The Cadet Unless Its A Young Donald Trump... And He's Making If Efforts known Now And Well have To See Where Things Go ......
Thanks For Info And The Share

Response by Jenn Moynihan made Mar 30 at 2019 2:23 PM

Jenn Moynihan — Sat, 30 Mar 2019 14:23:23 -0400

McCain

Response by SCPO Morris Ramsey made Mar 30 at 2019 2:51 PM

SCPO Morris Ramsey — Sat, 30 Mar 2019 14:51:57 -0400

I cannot vote for McCain. Did not vote for him when he was a Republican. Sure can’t vote for him now that he is a democrat.

Response by MSG Danny Mathers made Mar 30 at 2019 3:12 PM

MSG Danny Mathers — Sat, 30 Mar 2019 15:12:01 -0400

McCain was a reckless pilot and was wisky washy as a political hack. I wouldn't vote for him in life or vote for him now.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Mar 30 at 2019 3:55 PM

SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth — Sat, 30 Mar 2019 15:55:29 -0400

The top picture.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Mar 30 at 2019 5:46 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Sat, 30 Mar 2019 17:46:35 -0400

McCain fought for our country and denied early release from the Hanoi Hilton; therefore, subjecting himself to more years of torture. Trump became a military genius through JROTC and 5 deferments. I am sure Trump bravely marched with M1 rifle as a cadet. It's not a hard question to answer.

Response by MSG Stan Hutchison made Mar 30 at 2019 5:49 PM

MSG Stan Hutchison — Sat, 30 Mar 2019 17:49:17 -0400

As a strong Democrat, I could not vote for McCain. However, if the only choice was him or the cadet, I would.

I don't belief the cadet knows what the word honor means.

Response by Sgt Jerry Genesio made Mar 30 at 2019 6:07 PM

Sgt Jerry Genesio — Sat, 30 Mar 2019 18:07:52 -0400

Your response has nothing to do with the question.

Response by LTC David Brown made Mar 30 at 2019 6:37 PM

LTC David Brown — Sat, 30 Mar 2019 18:37:32 -0400

McCain was more honorable, Trump far more effective!

Response by CPT Lawrence Cable made Mar 30 at 2019 7:02 PM

CPT Lawrence Cable — Sat, 30 Mar 2019 19:02:15 -0400

Again, most people in this conversation didn't have a draft card or even know how the system worked. There is a difference between taking a legal deferment and dodging the draft. Even during the lottery, the attempt to remedy the glaring fact that if you had money and could afford to go to school, you were effectively exempt from the draft, the percentage of eligible people drafted was pretty damn small. During the peak of Vietnam, about 25 percent of the Forces were Draftees, verses 66 percent during WWII. That percentage went down drastically after 1968. Of the 26,800,000 men eligible for the draft between 1964 and 1973, 2,215,000 were drafted, although your chances were slightly higher between 1967-1970. So if you did nothing and were physically able to serve, the chance of being drafted during Vietnam was less than 1 in 10.
My lottery number was 160. I believe I was in the last group even classified and assigned lottery numbers.

Response by SPC Erich Guenther made Mar 31 at 2019 12:16 AM

SPC Erich Guenther — Sun, 31 Mar 2019 00:16:58 -0400

Thats a tough one. While it is true McCain was a POW, he dumped the wife that patiently waited for his captivity to end for someone that was very rich and whom he could use to propel him into elective office. Also, McCain very two faced and double dealing in his Senate Career. McCains family suffers from a bad case of entitlement based on his service record.........yet others with a more impressive service record are humble and accept what they have. Trump while also born into a family of privelege lost a close brother to Alcholism ad suicide and still carries that burden today. Trump could have followed his older brother into a life of addiction but didn't. Trump definitely raised his kids better than McCain did. Former wife says so as well which is also high praise. On the other hand Trump does not know when to shut up or keep quiet and comes across as very arrogant. Hard to say, I'd call it a draw.

Response by Maj John Bell made Mar 31 at 2019 8:07 AM

Maj John Bell — Sun, 31 Mar 2019 08:07:40 -0400

False choice. The choice was between these two candidates. To that question my answer is neither one convinced me they were acceptable, let alone honorable.

Response by MSgt Seth Trent made Mar 31 at 2019 1:56 PM

MSgt Seth Trent — Sun, 31 Mar 2019 13:56:33 -0400

Trump!

Response by MSG Danny Mathers made Mar 31 at 2019 2:42 PM

MSG Danny Mathers — Sun, 31 Mar 2019 14:42:03 -0400

This has became a hot issue. I am going to make one last point and I am done with this. This thread has morphed from the most honorable to who you would vote for today if McCain was alive more or less. The fact is the elections were against Hillary and Trump. It didn't matter what was the status of a young Trump was in the 60's. He was the best candidate. The 2020 will be against who ever runs against President Trump. I absolutely will not vote for some job killing, communist, liberal no matter what the demoncrats invent about President Trump. Lastly, I will not respond to a thread that separates the Brotherhood. This one has. Opinions vary...........

Response by SPC Kevin Ford made Mar 31 at 2019 10:51 PM

SPC Kevin Ford — Sun, 31 Mar 2019 22:51:28 -0400

Honorable? The one who did his duty instead of ducking it. It's a pretty simple premise. I remember when draft dodging was considered a serious character flaw. But now we live in a world post all that, as long as a person is doing what a group wants, there are no disqualifying character flaws. Character flaws are only for people who think differently than whatever group we belong to.