SSG Robert Burns 119743 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Every leave, every 4 day weekend, these things are typically the "no one goes home till they are all done!"<br />Why do we do them?<br />Do they actually prevent anything?<br />Do NCO's actually get theirs done or just pencil whipped?<br />Should NCO's need someone to inspect their vehicle they drive every day?<br />Why does it seem to only matter on long weekends? You drive your vehicle every day! 2014-05-05T22:37:31-04:00 SSG Robert Burns 119743

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Every leave, every 4 day weekend, these things are typically the "no one goes home till they are all done!"<br />Why do we do them?<br />Do they actually prevent anything?<br />Do NCO's actually get theirs done or just pencil whipped?<br />Should NCO's need someone to inspect their vehicle they drive every day?<br />Why does it seem to only matter on long weekends? You drive your vehicle every day!

2014-05-05T22:37:31-04:00 2014-05-05T22:37:31-04:00 SSG Paul Kemper 119751

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>When I served it was necessary and still necessary. We as Soldiers fall into to a different category of existence and must be held to a higher standard. All Ranks should get inspected to ensure that we all stay safe.

2014-05-05T22:47:15-04:00 2014-05-05T22:47:15-04:00 CPT Aaron Kletzing 119758

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>We need them, but in the units I have been in, we've done them way too often.  When it's done literally every weekend, it just feels like CYA to many people in the unit.

2014-05-05T22:53:28-04:00 2014-05-05T22:53:28-04:00 1SG Private RallyPoint Member 119765

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I have done them and I have had them done on my vehicles. I have caught expired drivers liscense as well as expired registrations and insurance. I have also on occasion found unserviceable tires and light bulbs not working. Yes I actually had my platoon line up their vehicles and inspected them one by one. Why only on long weekends? I think it is frequent enough that we can help indetify situations before they become problems. Soldiers also typically like to travel on long weekends so if we as leaders can identify and correct a possible safety risk then we have potentially saved a life. If we identify document short comings then maybe we can avoid the repercussions by the COC.

2014-05-05T22:59:36-04:00 2014-05-05T22:59:36-04:00 SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member 119790

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Especially for younger Soldiers, it is a necessity. I've conducted many inspections during my time. As an 88M, in transportation units, there weren't too many problems. However, as a student at DLI, many of the IET Soldiers knew not much more than to put in gas and press the pedal. I would also take that time as a teaching moment so that they would be better prepared. I have been able to correct many types of deficiencies that could have proved disastrous if left unchecked. (though I'm so old school I was thrown off by the fact that many new cars no longer come with spare tires). I would like to believe that I helped contribute to making the world a safer place, one vehicle at a time. <br />However, for more seasoned drivers, I do feel that they should be given a bit more leeway, but not totally. There are still those older ones that are clueless and can benefit from someone going over it. It annoys me to no end when they are just pencil whipped, because it is instilling a false sense of security. I have no shame in having someone look over my beautiful car and possibly catch something I got complacent and missed. However, the whole issue becomes moot if the inspector is just checking boxes without actually checking or even knowing what they are checking for. The look of surprise was always classic when the Soldiers saw that I was checking EVERYTHING and finding faults others have overlooked. (For some reason, overfilled brake fluid was one of my most common observations)

2014-05-05T23:21:52-04:00 2014-05-05T23:21:52-04:00 MAJ Private RallyPoint Member 119851

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>We do need them, but this is another example of every-day-life: there's no absolute. How often and by whom the inspections should take place is potentially different for any given Soldier based on their knowledge and experience. I'm not a mechanic, but there are certain things I can check; obviously, there are other things that I may not be able to. How detailed does the inspection need to be? As I said, I'm not a mechanic, but things that affect safety (lights, breaks, tires, fluids, mirrors) would definitely make the list. Issues with a spare tire wouldn't stop the movement, but it'd be a discussion about a cell phone and what the plan would be if the Soldier got stranded without one FMC.

2014-05-06T00:42:24-04:00 2014-05-06T00:42:24-04:00 SFC Douglas Eshenbaugh 119890

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>How often do people really look at their vehicle if we didn't do inspections? How many burned out tail lights and license plate lights have I found over the years? How many tickets have I gotten my guys out of because I insisted on seeing their insurance cards. No, we need them. They can get over redundant if you got a command that is demanding them every weekend but once a month isn't too bad.

2014-05-06T03:30:15-04:00 2014-05-06T03:30:15-04:00 SFC William Swartz Jr 119931

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I have been in units where we did them at least once a month and I have been in units that only did them prior to a long weekend. I believe that they were a necessary "evil" to try and ensure that we are doing everything we can to ensure that all of us are driving safe vehicles and that all of us are properly licensed and insured when we are behind the wheel. I have had mine inspected from the time I was a young PFC up through my last few months of service prior to transitional leave. I was able to catch soon to be expired licenses and insurance on younger Soldiers and NCOs as well as some vehicles that needed some work done to be FMC.

2014-05-06T07:45:05-04:00 2014-05-06T07:45:05-04:00 SFC Craig Dalen 119935

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>We do them monthly and it ensures that our Soldiers, NCO's and Officers all are as safe as possible and disciplined enough to keep up their vehicles just as they do our motorpool.

2014-05-06T07:54:26-04:00 2014-05-06T07:54:26-04:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 119973

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Per AR 385-10 (Army Safety Program)<br /><br />11–8. Unit privately owned vehicle safety inspections<br />Unit commanders will ensure that unit POV safety inspections are conducted for their Soldiers. Reinspections should<br />be conducted when unsafe conditions are identified. Vehicle inspections should include verification of motorcycle rider<br />training, licensing, and PPE. Example inspection checklists are included in the POV risk management toolbox accessed<br />through the USACRC Web site at <a target="_blank" href="https://crc.army.mil">https://crc.army.mil</a>. (At a minimum, this inspection is required every 6 months.)<br /><br /><br />From my own personal experiences I think we tend to overdo them, but at the same time I have had Soldiers habitually fail the inspections every 4-day, so I understand the need to do them so often.

2014-05-06T08:51:14-04:00 2014-05-06T08:51:14-04:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 119975

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I do feel that vehicle inspections serve a purpose but it all depends who is inspecting. I personally do not know crap about cars and don't care to know about them thats why I take my car to a mechanic, so if I am inspecting a car all I can do is use common sense which is what most of the vehicle inspection is. I feel to make vehicle inspections more usefull they should be conducted by mechanics and only twice a year or so. They could be done in conjuction with all those Battalion safety days where there is a bunch of other BS going on anyways.

2014-05-06T08:59:12-04:00 2014-05-06T08:59:12-04:00 SFC Craig Hahn 120128

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>all military should be doing this. It is just another way for all leaders to make sure all Soldiers are doing the right thing and making sure they are safe. I have seen some vehicles that I would not drive off post because the condition the vehicle is on. Leaders need to check and also be checked.

2014-05-06T11:55:07-04:00 2014-05-06T11:55:07-04:00 SSG John Bacon 120160

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Absolutely we need them. I have found so many deficiencies on Vehicles it isn't funny. No insurance and mechanical issues as well. Had I not done thorough inspections of my soldiers vehicles they could have been stranded, injured in a vehicle accident, or killed. Especially young soldiers who have no clue and go out and buy some beater from joe blow directly off the post with the sign that says "E-1 NO PROBLEM". I have always encouraged my soldiers to inform me if they are thinking about purchasing a vehicle so I can check it out before hand but there is always that one private who thinks he or she knows better and does something stupid. So hell yes do vehicle inspections.

2014-05-06T12:21:52-04:00 2014-05-06T12:21:52-04:00 SPC Private RallyPoint Member 120162

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I mean we should always strive to maintain safety. If a soldier has a car that isn't working properly, that's a safety issue and should be addressed. Maybe it should be more often than just on long weekends and leave, maybe more random than just that. We have a standard and everyone should maintain it.

2014-05-06T12:22:17-04:00 2014-05-06T12:22:17-04:00 SSgt Gregory Guina 120167

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Unfortunately we have to do them to ensure that our young service members are not putting themselves at risk. I have had to take keys away from personnel due to them not keeping their insurance up to date. Additionally I have found multiple cars that were not safe for operation. I honestly don't have my car checked everytime but I do checks and about once a quarter or maybe every six months I get a fellow SNCO to come out and check out my car and verify everything.

2014-05-06T12:24:48-04:00 2014-05-06T12:24:48-04:00 MAJ Dallas D. 120168

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I see this as another avenue where we are taking care of Soldiers. I think it should be a simple inspection, check Driver's License (ensure it's not expired); insurance (ensure it's current); tire wear, lights,wipers,horn, seat belts all are in working order and that is about it.

2014-05-06T12:26:08-04:00 2014-05-06T12:26:08-04:00 SGT Private RallyPoint Member 120296

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>CW3(P) Dean,<br />I do believe that vehicle inspections should be done, however not as often as they are. On the top of our vehicle inspection sheets it states that they are good for one year from the date inspected, so why do I have to fill them out every month when we have more than two days off from work in a row. I believe they use it more as a way to keep up busy throughout the day before long weekends.

2014-05-06T15:15:03-04:00 2014-05-06T15:15:03-04:00 1SG Private RallyPoint Member 120651

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Another avenue to blame the leadership rather placing the responsibility on the individual.

2014-05-06T23:06:36-04:00 2014-05-06T23:06:36-04:00 SSG William Sutter 120733

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think the important factor is that the E4s and below get them done. It might not sound right but when we become NCOs we know what right is. Therefore if we do them enough as E4s and below we know what to look for and how important it is to check vehicles periodically. Now do we need them every weekend-NO do we need them every month-NO. In my opinion we need them anytime there would be a large amount of Soldiers going a great distance like Christmas, the 4th of July, Memorial weekend, etc.

2014-05-07T02:10:02-04:00 2014-05-07T02:10:02-04:00 GySgt Private RallyPoint Member 120734

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Considering we have more personnel dying from vehicle accidents than anything else other than combat (some years vehicle deaths were higher than combat deaths) we have to combat it. We do inspections on military vics, ppe, and other pre-combat checks why wouldn't we do the same checks on our men for liberty?

2014-05-07T02:11:04-04:00 2014-05-07T02:11:04-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 120771

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is a vital piece of equipment. You ensure your weapon is prepared, why wouldn't you prepare your vehicle? NCOs are not above doing PMCS. If you are responsible for a vehicle or the team inside it, you are responsible. Period.

2014-05-07T06:42:46-04:00 2014-05-07T06:42:46-04:00 SFC Dave Mccain 120967

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>We do need them in the arena of thought that we could all use an extra set of eyes on things. Soldiers, NCO's and officers all overlook things from time to time or are not aware of certain requirements in our areas. what we DO NOT need is a forced pencil whip. if we are truly looking out for our Soldier's safety, we need to take a little extra time to ensure we are doing it right.

2014-05-07T13:11:19-04:00 2014-05-07T13:11:19-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 120973

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Why would we need to do them? I would actually like to hear the story behind this. <br /><br />Does the state get sued when someones car breaks down or they have an accident and their state inspection is not in date? NO! The person with the out of date inspection gets a ticket. Personal accountability!<br /><br />It is all CYA and it is unnecessary in my opinion. If anything at all, they should do inspections for the Soldiers that are going on TDY and driving, Leave, or Pass.

2014-05-07T13:21:58-04:00 2014-05-07T13:21:58-04:00 SPC Christopher Smith 121007

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I voted CYA.<br /><br />I say this, only because to me if the state says your vehicle is road worthy, it is. If you decide to go against best judgment in getting an oil change, or tires I doubt your trouble will happen on a random extended weekend, or leave. More than likely you will have issues on a regular day home or to work. Also, no one high or low seems to really care, it is another check in the block task that needs to be done as soon as possible.

2014-05-07T14:14:59-04:00 2014-05-07T14:14:59-04:00 CPT Daniel Walk, M.B.A. 121361

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It's simply risk mitigation and accountability. If a Soldier gets into an incident, there is evidence that the vehicle functioned within all safety parameters.

2014-05-07T22:17:49-04:00 2014-05-07T22:17:49-04:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 121446

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Most states already require vehicle inspections. Now I'm not saying that the state inspection makes the vehicle safe but if the state says it can be driven legally then who are we to tell someone they can't drive it? At the most we can tell the soldier not to drive it on post. Sure you can give them the order to not drive it off post but are you going to spend every second of your off time to make sure they don't drive it? This is one area where I think leaders are overstepping. Bottom line the soldier is going to drive it at a minimum to get to work or at least the front gate.

2014-05-08T01:19:56-04:00 2014-05-08T01:19:56-04:00 SSG (ret) William Martin 121453

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>As an MP, I have had my fair share of traffic stops where a service member's was expired and not by few days but by weeks and months. As an NCO and an MP my question to the SM is, "Does your supervisor insure your auto insurance is up to day".

2014-05-08T02:28:45-04:00 2014-05-08T02:28:45-04:00 CSM Private RallyPoint Member 121518

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Back in 1999, on a four-day weekend vehicle inspection, I found that one of my Soldiers had the carburetor of his 1986 Ford LTD station-wagon being held in place with Vice-Grip pliers. This Soldier was planning on driving a group of friends on a 400 miles round trip. I am glad I was able to prevent what could have been a very unfortunate weekend. FYI, they ended up renting a vehicle and able to do their trip safely.

2014-05-08T08:37:56-04:00 2014-05-08T08:37:56-04:00 SGM Private RallyPoint Member 122175

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Every time my Soldiers have to have one I inspect my CDRs POV and she inspects mine. I remember a kid coming to work one day complaining about his car driving like crap. Being a helpful mechanic I went over only to find out he no longer had tread on his front tires and 1 tire was worn down to the steel belt. WOW!

2014-05-08T20:38:14-04:00 2014-05-08T20:38:14-04:00 SGM Private RallyPoint Member 122180

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Our BN took the POV inspection one step further and had calls made about insurance policies and every Soldier had to go to the MP station so they could do a drivers license check. Needless to say a few were placed into custody (outstanding warrants) and other needed rides home due to finding out their license was expired or revoked. LOL.

2014-05-08T20:41:09-04:00 2014-05-08T20:41:09-04:00 CW3 Private RallyPoint Member 122850

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It's become a check-the-block. I have to have my vehicle inspected regularly in order to drive it, and renew my license every so often.<br /><br />Plus, I *earned* my rank, and if the unit sends an NCO to inspect my vehicle, that sends a message that the perception is that I didn't, and I need supervision. I'm a grown, 46 year old CW2. I don't need to be supervised by those I outrank.

2014-05-09T17:30:43-04:00 2014-05-09T17:30:43-04:00 WO1(P) Private RallyPoint Member 123202

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It's good to have vehicle inspections conducted in the Army so that that trade is not lost for our vehicles at the motor pool: soldiers need to know what to look for.  The problem is the task gets put to the back of the list of things to do so the level of severity for NCO's to get it done gets pushed back even further!  I think we need them.

2014-05-10T09:27:20-04:00 2014-05-10T09:27:20-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 128835

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>POV inspections are a necessary thing. I don't think inspecting as often as we do is necessary though. POV inspections prevent a lot of unfortunate accidents from happening for example while I was in BNCOC one of my soldiers put in a 4 day pass. His vehicle wasn't inspected by the NCO (among other things, 4 day pass to go from Arizona to Missouri and back) that covered down in my absence. The soldier had a blowout on his way back, him and his passenger passed away. As much of an inconvenience we may see it as, they are necessary.

2014-05-17T14:20:22-04:00 2014-05-17T14:20:22-04:00 MSG Private RallyPoint Member 161273

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Does the form get filled out....you betcha. Does my supervisor or whomever is "inspecting" actually look at my truck...nope. For the most part I know who drives what and I see their POVs daily...if I notice something wrong I say so when I see it. I don't need to wait till a 3-4 day to check out what my soldiers are driving.

2014-06-22T23:48:53-04:00 2014-06-22T23:48:53-04:00 SPC Private RallyPoint Member 5362928

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>So I don&#39;t own a POV, my wife does lease a vehicle and my name is not on the title or registration. I occasionally drive it. Should i be required to have a POV inspection.and can I refuse.

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