UK will help destroy Islamic State, David Cameron tells US - Is the UK going to take the Lead?

COL Mikel J. Burroughs — Sun, 19 Jul 2015 20:23:10 -0400

UK will help destroy Islamic State, David Cameron tells US - Is the UK going to take the lead in the fight against ISIS?

RP Members what do you think?

It is going to take the UK getting more involved in order for the United States to commit ground forces in the near future?

Do RP Members want the US to get more involved?

Do you think Cameron will get the UK to support a new strategy?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-33584548

UK will help destroy Islamic State, David Cameron tells US - BBC News

Britain is committed to working with the US to destroy the "caliphate" set up by Islamic State militants in Iraq and Syria, Prime Minister David Cameron says.

Response by CPO Joseph Grant made Jul 19 at 2015 8:24 PM

CPO Joseph Grant — Sun, 19 Jul 2015 20:24:41 -0400

Perhaps they need to, our leadership is failing miserably

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 19 at 2015 8:28 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 19 Jul 2015 20:28:48 -0400

Their military is weaker than ever. They won't be able to do much even if they wanted. At most they will be a supporting partner.

Response by SSG Paul Setterholm made Jul 19 at 2015 8:30 PM

SSG Paul Setterholm — Sun, 19 Jul 2015 20:30:40 -0400

I think the Middle East countries need to take out Isis. We should just financial/technical support. They need to step it up and not rely on us to be the sheriff for the world.

Response by SFC Everett Oliver made Jul 19 at 2015 8:31 PM

SFC Everett Oliver — Sun, 19 Jul 2015 20:31:23 -0400

There is little doubt left that our current leadership won't step up and take charge. We are no longer the leader of the free world....SO hopefully we will follow the UK.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 19 at 2015 8:33 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 19 Jul 2015 20:33:28 -0400

The UK and other allies need to get involved in the fight and send in ground troops to support the fight agains ISIS and other terror groups. In the very recent past they have failed to commit ground troops even after their own embassy was overrun and used by ISIS as a command post. The United States needs to get out of the business of being the world police and into the business of leadership and getting allies to work together, to share information, resources, equipment and any thing else that is necessary to defeat these groups. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/isis-in-iraq-britain-has-no-plan-for-tackling-the-militants-and-no-idea-whos-in-charge-10031274.html

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Jul 19 at 2015 8:40 PM

Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS — Sun, 19 Jul 2015 20:40:09 -0400

I think having the Commonwealth Countries on board "philosophically" will help tremendously.

Adding not only the UK, but Canada, New Zealand, and Australia just changes the way the world sees this problem. If we can get a solid portion of the EU to view the Middle East instability as not only a Regional issue, but a Global issue we may have a chance to do to change global perception.

However, if we want to actually accomplish anything, the Middle East needs to take the lead.

I equate this to a "Drunken Uncle." Until the drunken uncle wants help, nothing will change. It will just be tolerated, and bailed out of jail.

Response by SN Victoria Glover made Jul 19 at 2015 8:59 PM

SN Victoria Glover — Sun, 19 Jul 2015 20:59:29 -0400

In my opinion, I think Mr. Cameron can but all the other Nations need to get involved besides the UK and US. The terrorists strike out at all countries that they deem a threat to their mission to take over. The US can only do so much even after we get the current Potus out of office. If all nations take a stand against ISIS and other terror groups we can then have better control. It is going to take everyone working together to end the threats.

Response by SGT Neil Doty made Jul 19 at 2015 9:34 PM

SGT Neil Doty — Sun, 19 Jul 2015 21:34:05 -0400

I say if they take the lead we need to follow. We cant sit back and act like nothing happened.

Response by LTC Stephen F. made Jul 19 at 2015 9:48 PM

LTC Stephen F. — Sun, 19 Jul 2015 21:48:37 -0400

It would be wonderful if one nation would actually get serious taking the lead and actually develop a comprehensive strategy to defeat the Islamic State COL Mikel J. Burroughs. IF the UK is willing to devote the air, ground, naval, intel, and special ops and work with allies in the region to defeat the Islamic State - operational, financial gathering including black market and their propaganda capabilities then I would applaud that effort. More power to them!

Response by LCpl Mark Lefler made Jul 19 at 2015 9:50 PM

LCpl Mark Lefler — Sun, 19 Jul 2015 21:50:39 -0400

Bout time someone else actually did something besides us.

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Jul 19 at 2015 9:59 PM

SFC Mark Merino — Sun, 19 Jul 2015 21:59:11 -0400

No tippy toeing around. This is a global problem. The US well is damn near tapped dry. No more Britain hanging out in Basra and marking the calendar. They need to go full on Falkland Islands. France needs to quit sitting on their derriere as well. Their country is starting to resemble the good old days of the Brits and the IRA going toe to toe every day. There are armed troops posting themselves all over the country.

Response by PV2 Kipton Hudson made Jul 19 at 2015 10:04 PM

PV2 Kipton Hudson — Sun, 19 Jul 2015 22:04:26 -0400

How is England going to take the lead their country is over run with Islamic crazies

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Jul 19 at 2015 10:43 PM

CPT Jack Durish — Sun, 19 Jul 2015 22:43:42 -0400

Somebody had better take the lead. The US isn't going to until this Administration ends and maybe not even then...

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 19 at 2015 11:32 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 19 Jul 2015 23:32:40 -0400

COL Mikel J. Burroughs with all respect I hear fight against Islamic State and that we are doing so much or we are not doing enough from the other side. Either way we cannot win any war without two things: 1. public support (leads to political support) and 2. boots on the ground. The first country to do that is the one that is serious about this fight.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 20 at 2015 12:51 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 20 Jul 2015 00:51:13 -0400

I myself think we should be involved. If you stand by and do nothing then your just as guilty as the individuals committing the crime.

Only if and when we get involved we have our ROE changed and not published to the enemy.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 20 at 2015 6:22 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 20 Jul 2015 06:22:18 -0400

Apparently so.

Response by Cpl Jeff N. made Jul 20 at 2015 6:38 AM

Cpl Jeff N. — Mon, 20 Jul 2015 06:38:58 -0400

We all know that there will be no real effort or results without the US being heavily involved. MOst of our allies are force multipliers, not the force. We need to get in or get out. Right now we are dabbling with air strikes and some troops on the ground. The training program Obama promised to fight ISIS is a joke. I think it has produced less than 5000 possible solders (according to testimony). If it is important to our vital national security interests we better get busy. If not, why are we dabbling?

Response by PO2 Mark Saffell made Jul 20 at 2015 6:57 AM

PO2 Mark Saffell — Mon, 20 Jul 2015 06:57:05 -0400

I would say no. And knowing our president we wont either. We will get a lot of lip service while he does nothing. The will continue to inspire crazies here in the US to kill us service members and The White House will do ZERO to help by beating back ISIS or allowing service members to be armed to protect ourselves. We will continue to be easy targets thanks to this President. Wonder if he would like to give up his secret service detail and go out as a target like he makes us do.

Response by SSG Trevor S. made Jul 20 at 2015 9:16 AM

SSG Trevor S. — Mon, 20 Jul 2015 09:16:46 -0400

Every free country should be involved.

Response by LTC John Shaw made Jul 20 at 2015 9:18 AM

LTC John Shaw — Mon, 20 Jul 2015 09:18:56 -0400

COL Mikel J. Burroughs As others have stated the UK is a great country to act WITH the US but lacks the military capability. We are 'game on' in the homeland in the US, Britain, France, Turkey, Germany. It is time for NATO to act as one entity and use all coalition forces to crush the Islamic State and those states that support it.
The US still has the military capability we have a leader who lacks the will to use it. If we don't treat ISIL as a threat to our existence and get serious about it, we will just continue this sad sham of a 'war' effort by the current administration.

Response by LCDR Rabbah Rona Matlow made Jul 20 at 2015 12:18 PM

LCDR Rabbah Rona Matlow — Mon, 20 Jul 2015 12:18:48 -0400

Someone has to, and we're sure not, even though we created the conditions for them to rise up...

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 20 at 2015 12:20 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 20 Jul 2015 12:20:10 -0400

They have a better grasp of what is needed to defeat ISIS than we do. From what I know and have learned by a self-confessed "Muslim" that lives in the UK is that the people are being over-run by the radicals.

This guy was an idiot tho. He would thank God, and then I would say something to the fact like "Dude! You just thanked God. Where is the prophet and Allah?" "Well, I never said I was a good practicing Muslim." Whatever yo. It IS really about how "popular" that group is. I mean, some people would find that strange, but that IS the "In thing" now. Joining ISIS.

I find it amusing how all others KNOW that we need to put troops on the ground in order to defeat ISIS EXCEPT our Leader, Obama. We need to, whether we like it or not. It's just that plain and simple. We need to find a solid strategy and we need to blow these guys straight to hell. What do you think the United States would do to help the UK if they jumped into the fight with all boots in? Their Prime Minister even acknowledges that ISIS is one of the BIGGEST THREATs that the WORLD has EVER faced. And no, non-radicalized Muslims are not advocating the violence BUT they do buy into the prejudices.

We need to get more involved. I hate it, but that IS the answer.

Response by SSG James Arlington made Jul 20 at 2015 5:29 PM

SSG James Arlington — Mon, 20 Jul 2015 17:29:03 -0400

It's about time. USA is broke

Response by COL Charles Williams made Jul 20 at 2015 11:14 PM

COL Charles Williams — Mon, 20 Jul 2015 23:14:34 -0400

No... the regional powers need to take the lead... but they won't

Response by PO1 John Miller made Jul 21 at 2015 7:41 PM

PO1 John Miller — Tue, 21 Jul 2015 19:41:23 -0400

It doesn't look like the UK has a clear strategy (or they are not revealing it for OPSEC purposes) on how to defeat ISIS. If they do have a clear strategy I would support them 100% and encourage our government to do the same.

Response by PO1 Brian Schletty made Jul 21 at 2015 10:08 PM

PO1 Brian Schletty — Tue, 21 Jul 2015 22:08:25 -0400

Hmmmm. One minion, alone, betrayed by the country he loves...