Posted on Nov 2, 2015
TOTE Marine sues deceased crew members' families to limit their liability. I find this disgusting and cruel. Do you?
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The Navy has found and positively identified the SS El Faro, lost last month when she lost propulsion during Hurricane Joaquin. The owners', TOTE Marine's, response to a situation that looks very much like there might be some criminal negligence coming down the pike?
Sue the families in order to limit their own liability. Before the loved ones are even found, let alone laid to rest.
I am infuriated by this response. The US Merchant Marines have served this country faithfully since before we were even officially a country. We've served in peace, and in war. In every single major theater of conflict we've ever engaged in away from our shores. We had THE highest rate of casualties in WWII. None of the overseas conflicts, including those ongoing today, would be possible without US Merchant Marines. Remove them from the picture, and US warfighting capability is crippled. The US economy would tank -- something like 90% of products coming into the US do it by sea, and some significant portion of that is hauled on US hulls.
Really, TOTE marine? With your (alleged) negligence, and push to maintain deadlines in the face of a major storm and an equipment condition you (allegedly) KNEW to be sub-par? And YOU SUE THE FREAKING FAMILIES BEFORE YOU'VE EVEN FOUND THE BODIES?!
Fuck you, TOTE Marine. Fuck you, ANTHONY CHIARELLO, CEO. It is my sincerest and greatest wish that this incident, combined with the power of social media freaking HAMMERS your shady, souless, GUTLESS company. I hope that your customers bail when they realize that the people THEY serve are outraged at your insensitivity.
I call upon my fellow Merchant Mariners to boycott this company, their ships, their jobs. They've (allegedly) had a large part in killing 33 of us, and there is no reason to believe that their other ships, or their corporate culture, is any different. There are plenty of jobs. Please starve this company of it's labor force.
And the most fucked up thing of all? This entire incident is covered under Admiralty law, which is a very different beast than the 'normal' civil law most readers will be familiar with. The main point being, it's ALREADY going to be much harder for the families than if this wasn't a Maritime incident.
So I reiterate: fuck you, TOTE Marine.
To the Mariners who lost their lives: Fair weather and following seas, shipmates. May Davy Jones' carbuncle-d ass see you off well.
/end rant
RP members, what are your thoughts on this? Do our Mariners deserve better?
Search crews believe they've found the wreckage of the El Faro cargo ship. But as families of the lost crew hold out hope they'll learn their loved ones' fates, they also learned that the ship's owner aims to block their lawsuits, saying it's not to blame.
Just before federal officials announced over the weekend that the U.S. Navy would send a special submersible to search the ocean floor, lawyers for TOTE Maritime, which owns El Faro, filed a complaint in the U.S. District Court in Florida saying it did everything in its power to ensure the ship was safe and thus should bear no financial liability in regard to the families' claims.
One maritime lawyer told CNN the move was "highly insensitive to the families" of the sunken ship's crew.
The company's complaint says it "exercised due diligence" to make sure the 40-year-old vessel was seaworthy and well-equipped for its September 29 trip from Jacksonville, Florida, to San Juan, Puerto Rico, and should thus be "(exonerated) from liability for any and all losses or damages sustained during the voyage ... and from any and all claims for damages that have been or may hereafter be made."
The El Faro disappeared October 1 some 30 miles off the coast of the Bahamas, as Hurricane Joaquin raged in the region. The massive ship vanished with 33 crew members on board. In the month since, the remains of one unidentified body and several pieces of debris are all that's been recovered.
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The Navy said Saturday it has zeroed in on the wreckage of a cargo ship in some 15,000 feet of water, and it's believed to be the El Faro.
Families of four crew members have already filed lawsuits against TOTE on the grounds that the El Faro had a shoddy maintenance history and was reckless for knowingly sailing toward a hurricane.
Following the fated El Faro
Following the fated El Faro 02:06
But TOTE's court action Friday would prevent any other families from doing the same until a judge rules on the complaint, according to Kurt Arnold, an attorney representing the family of one of those four crew members.
"It's aggressive because it happened so fast," Arnold, who is based in Houston, said of the ship owner's legal action. "(TOTE) is coming out early, while the families (are) still grieving. ... They only called the search off for (crew members) three weeks ago."
Daniel Rose, a maritime attorney not presently involved in any litigation pertaining to El Faro, agreed, telling CNN the maneuver came "too soon," and called it "highly insensitive to the families."
"The wreckage hadn't even been identified, let alone retrieved," said Rose. "TOTE had six months to file a limitation action. They should have waited to see if the wreckage would be found, which appears likely, and loved ones retrieved, rather than slapping the families with a lawsuit."
Why was the ship so close to Hurricane Joaquin?
At the same time, said Rose, TOTE's action was to be expected. "Unfortunately, (it is) not a surprise for this industry."
TOTE sent a statement to CNN that said "the company will not discuss individual legal actions, out of respect for the legal process. Our focus remains on support and care for the families and their loved ones."
Blame the captain?
Both Arnold and Scott Wagner, a lawyer representing the family of El Faro crew member Jackie Jones Jr., told CNN it appears TOTE is not only seeking to avoid blame, but angling to place any that may come its way squarely on the captain of the ship, Michael Davidson.
"They are without question making a calculated move to shove this off to the captain," said Wagner, who added that the filing opens the possibility of suits against Davidson's estate.
Former crew member: Ship was not built seaworthy
Former crew member: Ship was not built seaworthy 02:41
Arnold agreed, pointing to carefully worded language in TOTE's suit that spells out how everything was up to par on the company's end before the El Faro left the port of Jacksonville on September 29 -- including the ship's plan to avoid Joaquin, then a tropical storm, which was churning in the Atlantic but was forecast to turn into a hurricane. If any decisions made after departure led to its sinking, the ship's owners argue, "such fault was occasioned and occurred without ... knowledge of (TOTE)."
TOTE points to a change of course ordered by the captain once the ship was at sea. "After departure and during the voyage, (Davidson) altered the planned course for S.S. EL FARO to account for the hurricane's track."
But Wagner isn't buying it. He said TOTE was intimately involved in and responsible for any and all decisions made at sea. It didn't matter that the decision was made after departure.
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"They are acting like they didn't know what was happening, (but) there isn't a damn thing the crew can do without the owners telling them what to do," he said. "Nowadays the technology is so good these owners are on the bridge with the captain every step of the way. They are virtually on the ship, so for TOTE to file limited liability and say they didn't know what was happening, that is wrong," he said.
Rose, a partner at New York law firm Kreindler & Kreindler, said, "It doesn't do TOTE any good to blame the captain since his acts or omissions will likely be imputed to them regardless," and characterized shifting blame to the captain as "more posturing than prudent legal strategy."
Coast Guard searches for El Faro survivors
10 photos: The search for El Faro
"First, the captain, individually, is obviously not a realistic source of recovery for the families," Rose said. "Second, the only reason to assert allegations against the captain is to impute his acts or omissions to TOTE, but it still has to be done in a way to defeat the limitation. Simply suing the captain does not accomplish that."
TOTE hopes 'arcane' law limits its liability
But even after making its case that it should not be held responsible, TOTE nevertheless hedged in its filing, citing what Arnold called an "arcane" maritime law from the 19th century to limit how much the company might have to pay out.
"(If TOTE) shall be judged liable ... such liability be limited to the value of (TOTE's) interest in the El Faro including her pending freight at the end of the voyage, and $420 per gross registered ton fund for death claimants," the company said in its complaint.
But, explains Arnold, that's not exactly a magnanimous gesture, because at the end of the voyage TOTE's interest in the 737-foot container ship was $0, since it was lost at sea. That leaves only the $420 per gross registered ton of pending freight -- a number that comes from the 19th century, according to Arnold -- that would be eligible for death claimants to go after. With the registered tons El Faro was hauling on its final voyage, that amount comes out to about $15.3 million, or about $464,000 for each of the 33 lives lost.
Former crew member: El Faro was a rust bucket
Former crew member: El Faro was a rust bucket 02:05
Arnold said the legal maneuver, which he called "an offensive tool for defendants," stands in direct contrast to the statements made publicly by TOTE.
"They didn't have to file a limitation action," said Arnold, who represented several families who sued BP and Transocean in the Deepwater Horizon disaster in 2010. "They say one thing to the press how their hearts and minds are with the families, meanwhile they have their lawyers in federal court trying to get a judge to limit damages."
In its statement to CNN, TOTE acknowledged the suit, but said it remains focused on "providing care and support" to the families of crew members.
"We confirm that families have been contacted regarding compensation," continued TOTE's statement. "We do understand that in these difficult and tragic circumstances, a number of families may have pressing financial burdens and we want to ensure that we are there to help immediately. All details of these discussions are, of course, confidential among the parties as they should be. Our efforts remain focused on providing care and support and this step is a step for those who may choose it."
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/01/us/el-faro-lawsuit/index.html
Sue the families in order to limit their own liability. Before the loved ones are even found, let alone laid to rest.
I am infuriated by this response. The US Merchant Marines have served this country faithfully since before we were even officially a country. We've served in peace, and in war. In every single major theater of conflict we've ever engaged in away from our shores. We had THE highest rate of casualties in WWII. None of the overseas conflicts, including those ongoing today, would be possible without US Merchant Marines. Remove them from the picture, and US warfighting capability is crippled. The US economy would tank -- something like 90% of products coming into the US do it by sea, and some significant portion of that is hauled on US hulls.
Really, TOTE marine? With your (alleged) negligence, and push to maintain deadlines in the face of a major storm and an equipment condition you (allegedly) KNEW to be sub-par? And YOU SUE THE FREAKING FAMILIES BEFORE YOU'VE EVEN FOUND THE BODIES?!
Fuck you, TOTE Marine. Fuck you, ANTHONY CHIARELLO, CEO. It is my sincerest and greatest wish that this incident, combined with the power of social media freaking HAMMERS your shady, souless, GUTLESS company. I hope that your customers bail when they realize that the people THEY serve are outraged at your insensitivity.
I call upon my fellow Merchant Mariners to boycott this company, their ships, their jobs. They've (allegedly) had a large part in killing 33 of us, and there is no reason to believe that their other ships, or their corporate culture, is any different. There are plenty of jobs. Please starve this company of it's labor force.
And the most fucked up thing of all? This entire incident is covered under Admiralty law, which is a very different beast than the 'normal' civil law most readers will be familiar with. The main point being, it's ALREADY going to be much harder for the families than if this wasn't a Maritime incident.
So I reiterate: fuck you, TOTE Marine.
To the Mariners who lost their lives: Fair weather and following seas, shipmates. May Davy Jones' carbuncle-d ass see you off well.
/end rant
RP members, what are your thoughts on this? Do our Mariners deserve better?
Search crews believe they've found the wreckage of the El Faro cargo ship. But as families of the lost crew hold out hope they'll learn their loved ones' fates, they also learned that the ship's owner aims to block their lawsuits, saying it's not to blame.
Just before federal officials announced over the weekend that the U.S. Navy would send a special submersible to search the ocean floor, lawyers for TOTE Maritime, which owns El Faro, filed a complaint in the U.S. District Court in Florida saying it did everything in its power to ensure the ship was safe and thus should bear no financial liability in regard to the families' claims.
One maritime lawyer told CNN the move was "highly insensitive to the families" of the sunken ship's crew.
The company's complaint says it "exercised due diligence" to make sure the 40-year-old vessel was seaworthy and well-equipped for its September 29 trip from Jacksonville, Florida, to San Juan, Puerto Rico, and should thus be "(exonerated) from liability for any and all losses or damages sustained during the voyage ... and from any and all claims for damages that have been or may hereafter be made."
The El Faro disappeared October 1 some 30 miles off the coast of the Bahamas, as Hurricane Joaquin raged in the region. The massive ship vanished with 33 crew members on board. In the month since, the remains of one unidentified body and several pieces of debris are all that's been recovered.
Athlete, big brother, father-to-be among ship's crew
The Navy said Saturday it has zeroed in on the wreckage of a cargo ship in some 15,000 feet of water, and it's believed to be the El Faro.
Families of four crew members have already filed lawsuits against TOTE on the grounds that the El Faro had a shoddy maintenance history and was reckless for knowingly sailing toward a hurricane.
Following the fated El Faro
Following the fated El Faro 02:06
But TOTE's court action Friday would prevent any other families from doing the same until a judge rules on the complaint, according to Kurt Arnold, an attorney representing the family of one of those four crew members.
"It's aggressive because it happened so fast," Arnold, who is based in Houston, said of the ship owner's legal action. "(TOTE) is coming out early, while the families (are) still grieving. ... They only called the search off for (crew members) three weeks ago."
Daniel Rose, a maritime attorney not presently involved in any litigation pertaining to El Faro, agreed, telling CNN the maneuver came "too soon," and called it "highly insensitive to the families."
"The wreckage hadn't even been identified, let alone retrieved," said Rose. "TOTE had six months to file a limitation action. They should have waited to see if the wreckage would be found, which appears likely, and loved ones retrieved, rather than slapping the families with a lawsuit."
Why was the ship so close to Hurricane Joaquin?
At the same time, said Rose, TOTE's action was to be expected. "Unfortunately, (it is) not a surprise for this industry."
TOTE sent a statement to CNN that said "the company will not discuss individual legal actions, out of respect for the legal process. Our focus remains on support and care for the families and their loved ones."
Blame the captain?
Both Arnold and Scott Wagner, a lawyer representing the family of El Faro crew member Jackie Jones Jr., told CNN it appears TOTE is not only seeking to avoid blame, but angling to place any that may come its way squarely on the captain of the ship, Michael Davidson.
"They are without question making a calculated move to shove this off to the captain," said Wagner, who added that the filing opens the possibility of suits against Davidson's estate.
Former crew member: Ship was not built seaworthy
Former crew member: Ship was not built seaworthy 02:41
Arnold agreed, pointing to carefully worded language in TOTE's suit that spells out how everything was up to par on the company's end before the El Faro left the port of Jacksonville on September 29 -- including the ship's plan to avoid Joaquin, then a tropical storm, which was churning in the Atlantic but was forecast to turn into a hurricane. If any decisions made after departure led to its sinking, the ship's owners argue, "such fault was occasioned and occurred without ... knowledge of (TOTE)."
TOTE points to a change of course ordered by the captain once the ship was at sea. "After departure and during the voyage, (Davidson) altered the planned course for S.S. EL FARO to account for the hurricane's track."
But Wagner isn't buying it. He said TOTE was intimately involved in and responsible for any and all decisions made at sea. It didn't matter that the decision was made after departure.
Searching with keen eyes, technology, hope
"They are acting like they didn't know what was happening, (but) there isn't a damn thing the crew can do without the owners telling them what to do," he said. "Nowadays the technology is so good these owners are on the bridge with the captain every step of the way. They are virtually on the ship, so for TOTE to file limited liability and say they didn't know what was happening, that is wrong," he said.
Rose, a partner at New York law firm Kreindler & Kreindler, said, "It doesn't do TOTE any good to blame the captain since his acts or omissions will likely be imputed to them regardless," and characterized shifting blame to the captain as "more posturing than prudent legal strategy."
Coast Guard searches for El Faro survivors
10 photos: The search for El Faro
"First, the captain, individually, is obviously not a realistic source of recovery for the families," Rose said. "Second, the only reason to assert allegations against the captain is to impute his acts or omissions to TOTE, but it still has to be done in a way to defeat the limitation. Simply suing the captain does not accomplish that."
TOTE hopes 'arcane' law limits its liability
But even after making its case that it should not be held responsible, TOTE nevertheless hedged in its filing, citing what Arnold called an "arcane" maritime law from the 19th century to limit how much the company might have to pay out.
"(If TOTE) shall be judged liable ... such liability be limited to the value of (TOTE's) interest in the El Faro including her pending freight at the end of the voyage, and $420 per gross registered ton fund for death claimants," the company said in its complaint.
But, explains Arnold, that's not exactly a magnanimous gesture, because at the end of the voyage TOTE's interest in the 737-foot container ship was $0, since it was lost at sea. That leaves only the $420 per gross registered ton of pending freight -- a number that comes from the 19th century, according to Arnold -- that would be eligible for death claimants to go after. With the registered tons El Faro was hauling on its final voyage, that amount comes out to about $15.3 million, or about $464,000 for each of the 33 lives lost.
Former crew member: El Faro was a rust bucket
Former crew member: El Faro was a rust bucket 02:05
Arnold said the legal maneuver, which he called "an offensive tool for defendants," stands in direct contrast to the statements made publicly by TOTE.
"They didn't have to file a limitation action," said Arnold, who represented several families who sued BP and Transocean in the Deepwater Horizon disaster in 2010. "They say one thing to the press how their hearts and minds are with the families, meanwhile they have their lawyers in federal court trying to get a judge to limit damages."
In its statement to CNN, TOTE acknowledged the suit, but said it remains focused on "providing care and support" to the families of crew members.
"We confirm that families have been contacted regarding compensation," continued TOTE's statement. "We do understand that in these difficult and tragic circumstances, a number of families may have pressing financial burdens and we want to ensure that we are there to help immediately. All details of these discussions are, of course, confidential among the parties as they should be. Our efforts remain focused on providing care and support and this step is a step for those who may choose it."
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/01/us/el-faro-lawsuit/index.html
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SN Greg Wright
SCPO David Lockwood Honestly, Senior, it's unbelievable to me. To slap the families right in the face like this so soon...it's unconscionable.
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Completely sickening...
I feel for you brother, and this is wrong. This shows how low on the totem pole human life really is when it comes up against a dollar amount. I'm not familiar with the law and how it applies between the families and the company, so I cannot give a educated opinion on it. I AM glad they were found. That is important to the families and will help give much needed closure and the ability to move on. I also am not sure who's responsible for the full investigation into this, but sincerely hope that they are not swayed in doing their due diligence to ensure this is properly completed by politics, greed, and money.
Fair winds and following Seas brothers.
Fair winds and following Seas brothers.
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This company is going to stall, raise smoke screens, point fingers, and hide behind character assassination of the deceased to weasel out of any responsibility. I would give odds that they've already attempted to get the families to sign quitclaims for fractions of their due. You can bet your bottom dollar that the records on the vessel will either be spotless, or missing. I've seen this happen time and again with ships in ports and waterways like the Mississippi river and Houston ship Channel.
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SN Greg Wright It is a tragedy, and it is being compounded by a company that is protecting its assets. Sadly, the investors are going to be thrilled that the company is protecting itself. I really hope that when all is said and done they do find that it wasn't an over zealous captain sailing into dangerous waters for no reason other than the bottom line. I agree with you that it is disgusting. It is the sad reality of our "civilized" world.
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SN Greg Wright
PO3 Steven Sherrill Even if he was overzealous -- and I'm not excusing him here, it was ultimately his call, regardless -- the company surely had a HUGE part in making him so, likely hounding him to keep his deadlines.
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PO3 Steven Sherrill
SN Greg Wright - Oh I am not disagreeing with you, I am just telling you be ready for them to not give a shit about the 33 who died for the deadline.
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PO3 Steven Sherrill
Capt Mark Strobl - sad reality when it comes to corporations and their bottom line.
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SN Greg Wright Hopefully the Coast Guard investigation will uncover the truth and if the company was negligently responsible for the sailors deaths the Administrative Law Judge will bring the weight of justice crashing down upon them!
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SN Greg Wright
MCPO Katrina Hutcherson I couldnt' agree more, Master Chief. As you know, the Captain made the ultimate call to sail that day, but he surely did it under pressure from the company. The facts will out, and I think maybe that company is done. I hope so.
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I don't take kindly to anyone screwing with Sailors, Makes me no never mind if they wear uniforms or not. Had the Utmost Respect for the MSC Sailors (Civilians) that crewed the Prepositioned Ships in Diego Garcia. Yeah they made a bit more money than the rest of us but they were all good guys.
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My gut feeling was to agree that it seemed heartless but after reading the article I think I understand the intent.
Four families are already suing for liability in the deaths (before there is any evidence of anything btw). By filing the suit, TOTE may or may not win, but doesn't have to try to fight all the litigation while the investigation is ongoing. Basically by filing now they are puting suits against them on hold (except for the 4 already filed). It will save them money in the event that the investigation finds them at fault in some way by reducing court costs overall, and it will save them even more if they are exonerated from any wrong doing.
The timing seems insensitive but it's a savvy business move.
Four families are already suing for liability in the deaths (before there is any evidence of anything btw). By filing the suit, TOTE may or may not win, but doesn't have to try to fight all the litigation while the investigation is ongoing. Basically by filing now they are puting suits against them on hold (except for the 4 already filed). It will save them money in the event that the investigation finds them at fault in some way by reducing court costs overall, and it will save them even more if they are exonerated from any wrong doing.
The timing seems insensitive but it's a savvy business move.
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