To rejoin the military as prior service, how can I document my promotion to SPC if I don't have my original promotion orders?

2019-02-21T00:35:45-05:00

I have completed my first initial 8 year contract will the army but the last four years was in IRR and the first four was Active Duty and I got out as a specialist I’m currently working with a recruiter to get back in but I can’t find my original promotion orders for specialist and he tells that is what I need if I want to enlist the only thing I can find with the date of when I got promoted is my ERB I’m wondering could I use that or will I have to take reduction in rank to PFC just to go back Active Duty?

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Feb 21 at 2019 3:13 AM

2019-02-21T03:13:07-05:00

Look up the eVetRecs website, fill out the Java applet, for NPRC in St. Louis, sign and date the form, fax it, save the form with the request number, or you'll have to start all over again...NPRC should be able to help you dig up all tour stuff, or petition Army for you to try to help...call all three Congress offices for you, submit the Privacy Act requests, the can't help you till you do, that's Federal law...explain what you need to their local case workers, not the DC offices, they all just do policy, NPRC can be called, it's part of NARA, the Natl Archives, it'd depend on when you got out, one can also call their senior staff, we've gotten a good deal of help from NPRF over a protracted period, trust me, believe what I tell you, if the paper exists, you should be able to have them find it for you, also, if you're listed at that rank, if tour DD214 needs to be corrected, you can petition Army BCMR, the correction board, possibly NPRC also, for a DD215, an am!endment to a DD214, though you might well need to submit a Dr Form 149 to do it, there are attorneys who deal with correction board staff, it can take a good deal of time, however, NPRC and the Congress offices I think are honestly, your nest chance, tell the Congress offices which recruiter you're speaking with, which recruiting group teyre with, you might want to tell NPRC that also, hope that helps, if you'd wanna chat more, I'm Jere, OK?

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Feb 21 at 2019 3:20 AM

2019-02-21T03:20:17-05:00

http://www.vetadvocates.org

NOVA, this group, does mainly VA disability stuff however, their attorneys are all hooked into military stuff, ask any of them, or call their officer for referrals by you for correction board attorneys, there's also the VA discharge review board (DRV), usually that's for discharge upgrades the have traveling teams, however, hey might be able to at least also have ideas how to reflect your proper rank on your DD214, or maybe know how to get you issued a DD215, so long as the promotion happened, I should certainly think you should be able to get it documented, ask all the major vet groups as well, they should be able to do it for free, also, your county and state vet affairs offices...DMDC/DEERS/DSO controls the VA eNemefits site, they have toll free phones if you can register for it at Level 2, you'll have to do it by remote proofind, maybe with Congressional help, howeverz one would certainly think you should be on the database, call also the VA main toll free, [login to see] , and ask if you're listed, if any of the staff can see you, they'll have to ID you, ask what rank you're listed as having been, if you're able to be seen, just another thought, OK?

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Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 21 at 2019 5:27 AM

2019-02-21T05:27:45-05:00

Is it correct that you were promoted to SPC on yiur 4 years of active duty, and your DD214 listed your rank as PFC?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 22 at 2019 6:43 PM

2019-02-22T18:43:16-05:00

If you received an automatic promotion to E4 there do not have to be orders issued. When you were discharged, it should have your rank on your DD214. If it is on your 214, there shouldn’t be a need for promotion orders. I hope this helps, good luck to you.