To reclassify via OJT, what is the procedure and what are the requirements? How long does it take?

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 27 Aug 2019 03:53:45 -0400

During my years in the Guard I’ve heard of people being awarded a MOS after they’ve worked in a capacity relevant to that MOS for a period of time.

Ex: 15B engine repairer being awarded 15T after working as an aircraft mechanic in the technician program.

Does anyone know anything about this? What’s the procedure you go throw go to do it? What are the requirements? How long does it take?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2019 10:07 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 27 Aug 2019 10:07:21 -0400

I'm pretty sure they got rid of that before I joined the Guard in 2004. I remember people saying that back then, it's one of those rumors that won't die.
The truth about MOSs is that the MOS propenent of each MOS sets the standard for what is acceptable knowledge, experience, and training to be awarded that MOS.
Imagine the scenario you described. A 15B E4 in the NG who only does his job during drill and AT. For three years he gets OJT. If he worked every single day without the other requirements such as PHA, APFT, EO, Range time, etc, that's less than 90 days of training over 3 years. They would have to pass a skills test.
Now, fast forward a year and that new 15T misses something they would have been taught in the course but was never covered in OJT. Now people are dead and millions of dollars in property damage are done.
This is why OJT is not performed anymore. Schools certify instructors prior to allowing them to teach. This is the Army teaching model and it's used in every certified training from CLS to MOS retraining.
The closest thing we have to OJT is ACASP for civilians who acquired a skill, have the certifications and experience in the field. Even then, they are usually required to attend MOS training for the military specific portion of their MOS.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2019 1:33 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 27 Aug 2019 13:33:54 -0400

Agree with SFC Private RallyPoint Member, the OJT program was phased out years ago. I just missed the cutoff in 2004 when I was cross-trained in a secondary function. The best you can do today is petition an AIT schoolhouse for a shortened course, which any Commandant should be able to grant if warranted (similar to a missed hours waver). Not a guarantee by any stretch of the imagination, but an option none the less.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 28 at 2019 1:50 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 28 Aug 2019 01:50:12 -0400

So the last one I saw was back in 2015, a generator mechanic wanted to go 15t, reenlisted for it then did otj training for 6 months before their class start date. Still hade to reenlist for it, then go to the school house. I do not believe you can just do otj training anymore to be rewarded the job because you have to get the certifications from the school house to be MOS qualified.

Response by SFC Melvin Brandenburg made Aug 29 at 2019 9:32 PM

SFC Melvin Brandenburg — Thu, 29 Aug 2019 21:32:13 -0400

No longer an option