Thoughts on the intergration of the US Armed Forces

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 17 Jun 2014 08:31:13 -0400

Most of you know about intergrating females into combat MOS's. But if you don't, it is here. I know the USMC starts their experiment of an intergrated combat batallion July 1st. My questions are: What are the other Branches doing in regards to intergration of females in combat related MOS's? Also, What does everyone on RP think of this? My personal opinion, I think it is great, but will take a lot of work to make it work. Let's hear what you all think.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 17 at 2014 1:24 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 17 Jun 2014 13:24:15 -0400

USMC has taken the lead on integration and I believe that the outcome of it's experiment will pave the way for the rest of the services.

Response by SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA made Mar 12 at 2015 1:08 PM

SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA — Thu, 12 Mar 2015 13:08:39 -0400

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member, I vehemently disagree with it. I vehemently disagreed with policies that were in place when I enlisted; this has not prevented me from serving.

The fact is that most women cannot hack current male military standards -- as in the APFT -- let alone current Infantry, Ranger, and SF standards. If they could, there would be no such thing as male or female grading scales. There would be one scale, representing the military standard. Consider the USMC attempt to transition to requiring female Marines to do pullups instead of a flexed arm hang. More than half couldn't even do the minimum of three pullups. Also consider that a woman who could do eight pullups would receive a maximum score, while a man would have to do twenty to get the same score.
For the very few women that can hack it, the logistical and social problems are -- in my view -- too great to bother with. No one has a *right* to serve in the military in any capacity. The military has a job to do, and anything or any one that detracts from that job has no business being there.
As the powers that be discover basic biological differences between men and women that common sense could have revealed to them long ago -- if they had common sense -- they are moving to reevaluate the standards, to determine whether they actually need to be as high as they are, or if the standards are mere sexist obstacles to integration.

Does anybody really think it's a good idea to make all of combat arms physically weaker, to accommodate social experimentation on our national defense?

OK, now tear me apart.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Apr 27 at 2015 5:39 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Mon, 27 Apr 2015 17:39:20 -0400

I endorse it as long as they meet physical requirements. The Kurds have an all female brigade that fight ISIS like lions.