The windows 9 beta

SSG Ed Mikus — Sun, 13 Apr 2014 11:14:10 -0400

The Windows 9 Beta may be released next month, will you try it? what are your thoughts about it, what have you heard? 

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 13 at 2014 1:37 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 13 Apr 2014 13:37:18 -0400

Poll doesn't allow me to choose two options.  :P  Microsoft has a habit of talent skipping generations with its operating system with every other one being really good, and the ones in between being bad or just not-as-good.<br><br>I will admit I haven't played around with 8 yet.<br>

Response by SSG Robert Burns made Apr 13 at 2014 8:29 PM

SSG Robert Burns — Sun, 13 Apr 2014 20:29:01 -0400

Windows? Apple here.

Side thought: If Apple finally made a car, would it have windows?

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 14 at 2014 8:03 AM

Capt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Apr 2014 08:03:58 -0400

I think its funny that win 9 is coming out, when most govt systems still use XP and are paying Microsoft millions to provide support for it.

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/laptops/news/american-irs-to-pay-millions-for-continued-windows-xp-support-508303

American IRS to pay millions for continued Windows XP support

The tax agency missed the deadline to upgrade from Windows XP, and will pay Microsoft for one more year's support.

Response by PO2 Rocky Kleeger made Apr 14 at 2014 8:52 AM

PO2 Rocky Kleeger — Mon, 14 Apr 2014 08:52:20 -0400

Hell...I still have XP on my computer at home

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 14 at 2014 3:13 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 14 Jun 2014 15:13:15 -0400

I'm still not feeling Windows 8, I wish I could have bought a laptop with XP. I'm sure if I had a tablet or touch screen laptop then I might enjoy it better. Who am I kidding? I'm just getting old and stuck in my ways!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 13 at 2014 7:17 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 13 Aug 2014 19:17:16 -0400

I am a huge Microsoft fan, and will happily try Win9 when/if I can.

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Aug 14 at 2014 10:03 PM

MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca — Thu, 14 Aug 2014 22:03:44 -0400

Anything has to be better than windows 8

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Aug 14 at 2014 10:07 PM

MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca — Thu, 14 Aug 2014 22:07:34 -0400

XP was probably their most stable platform to date. Windows 7 was right behind it. Windows 8 designed as a cross platform OS desktop-laptop-tablet, Yuk!

Response by LCpl Steve Wininger made Aug 14 at 2014 10:11 PM

LCpl Steve Wininger — Thu, 14 Aug 2014 22:11:17 -0400

Everything I have is running Windows 7, I still like XP though. I pick up a new laptop this weekend that has Windows 8 on it. I normally don't make it a habit to upgrade my operating systems, unless it is Linux.

Guess I will wait until my next computer purchase to find out about Windows 9. About the time I get used to one of them, another comes along.

Response by SSG Laureano Pabon made Aug 15 at 2014 12:04 AM

SSG Laureano Pabon — Fri, 15 Aug 2014 00:04:36 -0400

I'm going to test it when I get my hands on it, I don't expect too much though. I been testing since Windows 3.1, and the last one was the Windows 8.1, But like I said I don't really expect very much, since it will most likely look like Windows 8.1 and I guess as far as appearance goes Oh well.
One thing I do need to say is that a beta version is only for testing and should never, never be put into a Mission Critical computer or laptop.
(Mission Critical in this case is a PC that you use daily for what have you), always use a PC or laptop that has no purpose what so ever, or get another hard drive to replace that PC, in case things don't go right, you can always put the hard drive you replace back and still have all your work in tact.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 15 at 2014 4:49 PM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 15 Aug 2014 16:49:25 -0400

How about an option for "I gave up on Windows a long time ago." I loved XP, but I can't find a Windows OS that is as good. I gave Linux Mint a try. It's not perfect, but I like it well enough, and it's what I use now.

Response by LTC Paul Labrador made Aug 15 at 2014 6:34 PM

LTC Paul Labrador — Fri, 15 Aug 2014 18:34:37 -0400

I'm perfectly happy with 7

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 15 at 2014 10:21 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 15 Aug 2014 22:21:22 -0400

What people do not realize is that Windows Vista was a failure due to poor planning. Do you remember Windows Longhorn? It was suppose to replace Windows XP in the 2005 time frame.

What happened was Windows XP was being nailed in regards to security. Do you remember when using Windows XP before service pack 1, where you would get pop up pings, malware, and all kinds of issues. Well, Windows XP was such a security nightmare, that Windows Longhorn was delayed as a result. Most people do not realize this, but Windows Vista was really their Windows 7. Windows Longhorn (the blue pic) had the look of Windows XP, but was transitioning to become the new Windows OS in 2005.

Anyways, as a result of the security issues... Longhorn was pushed off and XP kept getting patched. Remember, XP had 3 additional service packs. As a result of XP constantly being fixed, longhorns was becoming outdated. Basically, Microsoft in the 2005 time frame needed a new and stronger looking OS. Basically, Windows Vista is really Windows 7 beta. Windows Vista was never meant to be released that early. Windows Vista was suppose to come out in 2009 (but came out in 2007 instead). Windows Longhorn was suppose to come out in 2005 time frame. Anyways, Microsoft was tired of losing money by not releasing anything and released Vista and wanted better security. The problem with Vista was that it required super hardware upgrades like 4GB of ram and better video graphics cards. As a result, Windows Vista was a flop... because everyone was using a beta version of Windows 7. That's why when Windows 7 came out, it looked like a cleaned up version of Vista and lower hardware requirements due to extensive feedback from Vista. So to sum this up:

Microsoft Original Plan:
1. Windows XP (2001 timeframe)
2. Windows Longhorn (2005 time frame) << a better XP
3. Windows Vista (2009 timeframe) << was suppose to Win7 stable

What caused the problems for the timeline:
1. XP security nightmares.
2. Windows Longhorn Delay.
3. Windows Vista released early to make money in 2007 timeframe.
4. Windows 7 released after to cleanup vista.

Actually Timeline.
1. Windows XP (2001)
2. (2001-2007) Windows XP service packs, security problems.
3. Windows Vista (2007) released to make money, not ready.
4. Windows 7 (2009) released to fix Vista
5. Windows 8 (2012) released to play catchup to Apple.

Basically, Windows had a vision, planned poorly. They failed to realize the transition towards mobile usage in regards to phones and tablets. That's why Windows 8 is a failure. Windows 9 seeks to tie all systems together.

The problem Windows 9 will suffer if not addressed:
1. Lack of developers
2. Competition between SURFACE and PARTNERS
3. SURFACE prices do not come down
4. Not getting rid of RT
5. Not pissing of their partners, yet compete to control the experience as Apple does.
6. Threat from Google, use of cheap chrome books.
7. Threat from Android, use of cheap tablets.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 16 at 2014 10:25 AM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 16 Aug 2014 10:25:26 -0400

WHAT???? Just when I got windows 4 down pat!

Response by SGT Richard H. made Aug 16 at 2014 10:34 AM

SGT Richard H. — Sat, 16 Aug 2014 10:34:49 -0400

Historically, every other version of Windows has been pretty good, leaving every other one to be horrible. (98 good, ME bad, XP good, Vista bad, 7 good, 8 bad) so based on that, 9 may be OK. Time will tell.

Response by TSgt Scott Hurley made Aug 16 at 2014 10:35 AM

TSgt Scott Hurley — Sat, 16 Aug 2014 10:35:50 -0400

There should be one that says, do not use windows since windows suck.

With that said, I own an Apple, and have had no problems with it.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 16 at 2014 1:25 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 16 Aug 2014 13:25:21 -0400

No need to rush into it. Let the Beta testers and time work out the hiccups. If the OS is a failure they'll push out the next one quickly and I'll skip 9 altogether.

Response by SPC David S. made Dec 10 at 2014 5:49 PM

SPC David S. — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 17:49:30 -0500

As with most software I tend to wait for the bugs to get worked out. Windows 10 sounds a little more interesting with the use of virtual desktops.

http://www.cnet.com/news/updated-windows-10-technical-preview-build-9860/

Windows 10 Technical Preview updated, boasts 7,000 changes and fixes - CNET

The latest Build of the Windows 10 Technical Preview is now ready to download.

Response by TSgt Joshua Copeland made Dec 10 at 2014 6:02 PM

TSgt Joshua Copeland — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 18:02:25 -0500

I generally run beta's shortly after release on a VM. As an IT Professional, it is just in my best interest to keep up with whatever Microsoft is throwing at us and be ahead of the power curve when end users start asking questions!

Response by SSG John Erny made Dec 10 at 2014 6:05 PM

SSG John Erny — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 18:05:47 -0500

I down loaded the alpha test and it looks like windows7 and 8 Frankenstined together!!! I am not even joking.

A+, MCP, MCDST, MCSA

Response by PO2 Corey Ferretti made Dec 10 at 2014 6:21 PM

PO2 Corey Ferretti — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 18:21:22 -0500

I hate when they come up with new systems because they always do it after i get use to the old one.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 10 at 2014 7:40 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 19:40:34 -0500

I just got suckered into Win8.1 from Win8 about 2 months ago. It totally hosed my ability to access all things military. Not going to do that again. If both my professional endeavors did not require operating Windows, I would have flushed it long ago!