The fight between the Iron Order and The Mongols motorcycle clubs ends with 1 dead, several injured. Would you join the Iron Order?

2016-01-31T23:49:45-05:00

REPORT: The violence started when members of the Iron Order Motorcycle Club, made up of predominantly law enforcement officers, were jumped by members of the Mongols Motorcycle Club, said John C. Whitfield, an attorney representing Iron Order and a member himself. But Las Vegas attorney Stephen Stubbs, who represents the Mongols, said it was Iron Order members who instigated the...brawl."
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29456619/motorcycle-club-lawyer-members-attacked-by-rival-gangs

Mongols: "Cop club" started fatal brawl at Denver motorcycle expo

The Iron Order Motorcycle Club includes police officers as its members

Response by SGT John " Mac " McConnell made Feb 1 at 2016 12:34 AM

2016-02-01T00:34:03-05:00

I wouldn't join any motorcycle club. I have been a member of one in the past. Just not worth the Junior high crap that is associated with it. I am glad I got out !

Response by TSgt Joshua Copeland made Feb 1 at 2016 7:40 AM

2016-02-01T07:40:26-05:00

Given what I have seen in my area, I would not be shocked if the IOMC started the altercation.

Response by Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth made Feb 1 at 2016 9:32 AM

2016-02-01T09:32:26-05:00

I would never join a club...just not for me. I am not a solo rider either, I enjoy riding with friends with no ties. What I really enjoy is stopping somewhere or being on the road and others join in meeting new people because of the bike.

Too many people get wrapped up in colors and bikes and forget what riding is all about. They just need to drop all of that and hit the open road and remember why they bought a bike in the first place...freedom.

Response by PFC Carl Willmon made Feb 1 at 2016 11:22 AM

2016-02-01T11:22:18-05:00

I'm too much a do my own thing person. I spent too many years in the cab of a semi and don't handle crowds or large groups well anymore

Response by SSgt Henry Phillips made Feb 1 at 2016 2:22 PM

2016-02-01T14:22:40-05:00

Being a veteran who is the President of my own motorcycle club (MC) I have to say this brawl between IO and the Mongols is hardly surprising. I'm in the Reno/Northern Nevada area and there are more than 50 motorcycle organizations around me. I do not condone the "junior high behavior". I see this too much with some organizations. Personal knowledge of IO leads me to believe the mix of personnel (active duty military, veteran, some former convicts and a smattering of civilians not included in the previous groups) is a volatile one. The Mongols have a long history themselves.

Joining an MC is a choice one makes just like we made when deciding what service to go into. Organizations like the VFW riders, American Legion Riders, Combat Veterans Motorcycle Association are good groups for those who want to ride for a purpose. For those who chose to ride solo its a personal choice and one that should be respected by all riders.

MCs were not made to fight and disrupt the community at large. (That doesn't mean some have gone "outlaw" or been corrupted by greed and personal agendas). Most MCs or associations do have military veterans as plank holders or founders, or their ranks are made up of a good population of veterans. They are supposed to be fraternities of people who enjoy motorcycle riding. Each has their own principles and values. They are supposed to be a family, one you can trust and turn to through thick and thin. They should hold you up and the brothers and sisters inside of it should be supporting you. Your life should be improved by this family not dragged into illegal activities and fighting. Didn't we fight and shed enough blood in the defense of our country?

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 1 at 2016 2:47 PM

2016-02-01T14:47:19-05:00

***original Comment removed***

I have been asked to refrain from providing any comment on this issue by my organization. I apologize for editing out my response, but it has to be done.

Response by PO1 John Miller made Feb 1 at 2016 2:59 PM

2016-02-01T14:59:57-05:00

One thing I never liked about io (and now iron legacy) is the fact they don't "get permission" to wear that MC cube from the dominant club nor will they join a COC. Sure I get the fact that "they want to be left alone" but getting permission goes along with their philosophy of "respecting those who respect them." They want the respect of other clubs but don't want to follow protocol? Not for me...

Also based on my own involvement in the motorcycle community, I have to maintain strict neutrality. If I go to one club's events, I have to go to all club's events. Most clubs in my area support the organization I'm a member of.

There is a chapter of io here, but I have never seen them.

Response by TSgt Joshua Copeland made Feb 1 at 2016 5:41 PM

2016-02-01T17:41:24-05:00

Sgt Sasha Cruz Here is the thread

Response by TSgt Joshua Copeland made Feb 1 at 2016 6:06 PM

2016-02-01T18:06:53-05:00

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29459367/coroner-ids-man-killed-at-denver-motorcycle-expo

Iron Order had history of clashes with motorcycle clubs before Denver shooting

A motorcycle club known for its inclusion of law enforcement officers had been involved in several high-profile altercations with rivals across the count

Response by 1SG David Niles made Feb 1 at 2016 8:00 PM

2016-02-01T20:00:49-05:00

I prefer the Blue Angles

Response by 1SG David Niles made Feb 1 at 2016 8:06 PM

2016-02-01T20:06:37-05:00

I ride with a mom and pop one patch group and we respect all. No judging and no one allowed to act up