Terrorism has been nothing to worry about in the US prior to 9/11 and until today. https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/terrorism-has-been-nothing-to-worry-about-in-the-us-prior-to-9-11-and-until-today <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Terrorism has been nothing to worry about in the US prior to 9/11 and until today. We have spent a trillion dollars on the intelligence community since 9/11 to fight this non-threat. You have a bigger threat when cross a street at night in on a rainy day or getting hit by lighting. <br /> <br /><br />There is scientifically irrefutable evidence that Americans have been lied too about the mass murder on 9/11 and the 9/11 Commission was a cover up. We need a new Congressional investigation to get at the truth. <br /><br /><br />In addition to the cover up of 9/11 there is the cover up and failure to prosecute those US military officers in the chain of command reasonable the torture at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. In August 2003, after Iraqis started an insurgency against the US and US supported Iraqis, Rumsfeld wanted Abu Ghraid “Gitmotized” and order Major General Geoffrey Miller to use the cruel and unusual treatment during interrogations that Miller had been allegedly using at Gitmo. <br /><br /><br />The following are photos obtained via FOIA request by the ACLU of this crule and unusual treatment/torture. <br /><a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-C2fVXuR6o">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-C2fVXuR6o</a><br /><br />Here is another documentary wherein some of the 11 enlisted soldiers who committed or witnessed the torture, talk about Abu Ghriab and the standard operating procedure to “soften up” the POWs for interrogation.<br /><a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVolRm1iqBY&amp;feature=player_embedded">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVolRm1iqBY&amp;feature=player_embedded</a><br /><br />People who want a new Congressional investigation of the mass murder of 9/11. <br /><br /><br />The Commission, 911 Commissioners Tom Kean and Lee Hamilton said that the FAA and <br />NORAD did not tell the truth to the Commission in order to mislead them, and 9/11 Commission former US Senators Bob Kerrey and Max Cleland called the Commission’s investigation a cover up. <br /><br />Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton, chair and vice chair wrote an op-ed piece in the NY Times stating the committee was stonewalled by the CIA and the investigation was obstructed government official failed to fully inform a lawfully constituted body. (NY Times, Jan. 2008) <br /><br />Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the 9/11 Commision. He stated the Bush administration attempted to slow walk the commission into irrelevancy. (Salon, Nov. 2003) “As each day goes by,” Cleland said, “we learn that this government knew a whole lot more about these terrorists before September 11 than it has ever admitted…. They had a plan to go to war and when 9/11 happened that’s what they did; they went to war.” IT IS A SCAM! … an obstruction! See <br /><a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rcq3YFq55n8">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rcq3YFq55n8</a><br /><br /><br />Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton said that the CIA “obstructed our investigation.” They also said that the 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials (NORAD) misrepresented the facts to the Commission, and the Commission considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements, yet didn’t bother to tell the American people. <br /> The commission asked for "all documents related to the FAA's tracking of hijacked airliners on 9/11," including communications with the NORAD, that dispatched fighter jets in response to the attacks. <br /> Thomas Kean said. "We were told that documents didn't exist and that we had everything we asked for. We discovered through our own investigation that the FAA had not turned over dozens of boxes of material, including "various (audio) tapes, statements, interview reports and agency self-assessments. I would rather feel that it was a lack of priority or knowledge of what they had, and not that they intentionally tried to hide things from us. But we don't know for sure."<br /> Lee Hamilton says “I don’t believe for a minute we got everything right”, that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, that the 9/11 debate should continue, and that the 9/11 Commission report was only “the first draft” of history.<br />Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that “There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn’t have access . . . .”<br /> Commissioner Timothy Roemer said “We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting. We were not sure of the intent, whether it was to deceive the commission or merely part of the fumbling bureaucracy." (CNN, Aug. 2006) <br /> <br /> Commissioner John Lehman said that “We purposely put together a staff that had - in a way - conflicts of interest“.<br />The Senior Counsel (investigator) to the 9/11 Commission, John Farmer, said “I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years…. This is not spin. This is not true.” <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-youtube"> <div class="pta-link-card-video"> <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/K-C2fVXuR6o?wmode=transparent" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-C2fVXuR6o">Ghosts of Abu Ghraib 2007 [Full Documentary]</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">Ghosts of Abu Ghraib. This is a film that needs to be seen by every American. It is a stark lesson in what happens when we are led by individuals who have no...</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:13:59 -0500 Terrorism has been nothing to worry about in the US prior to 9/11 and until today. https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/terrorism-has-been-nothing-to-worry-about-in-the-us-prior-to-9-11-and-until-today <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Terrorism has been nothing to worry about in the US prior to 9/11 and until today. We have spent a trillion dollars on the intelligence community since 9/11 to fight this non-threat. You have a bigger threat when cross a street at night in on a rainy day or getting hit by lighting. <br /> <br /><br />There is scientifically irrefutable evidence that Americans have been lied too about the mass murder on 9/11 and the 9/11 Commission was a cover up. We need a new Congressional investigation to get at the truth. <br /><br /><br />In addition to the cover up of 9/11 there is the cover up and failure to prosecute those US military officers in the chain of command reasonable the torture at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. In August 2003, after Iraqis started an insurgency against the US and US supported Iraqis, Rumsfeld wanted Abu Ghraid “Gitmotized” and order Major General Geoffrey Miller to use the cruel and unusual treatment during interrogations that Miller had been allegedly using at Gitmo. <br /><br /><br />The following are photos obtained via FOIA request by the ACLU of this crule and unusual treatment/torture. <br /><a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-C2fVXuR6o">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-C2fVXuR6o</a><br /><br />Here is another documentary wherein some of the 11 enlisted soldiers who committed or witnessed the torture, talk about Abu Ghriab and the standard operating procedure to “soften up” the POWs for interrogation.<br /><a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVolRm1iqBY&amp;feature=player_embedded">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVolRm1iqBY&amp;feature=player_embedded</a><br /><br />People who want a new Congressional investigation of the mass murder of 9/11. <br /><br /><br />The Commission, 911 Commissioners Tom Kean and Lee Hamilton said that the FAA and <br />NORAD did not tell the truth to the Commission in order to mislead them, and 9/11 Commission former US Senators Bob Kerrey and Max Cleland called the Commission’s investigation a cover up. <br /><br />Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton, chair and vice chair wrote an op-ed piece in the NY Times stating the committee was stonewalled by the CIA and the investigation was obstructed government official failed to fully inform a lawfully constituted body. (NY Times, Jan. 2008) <br /><br />Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the 9/11 Commision. He stated the Bush administration attempted to slow walk the commission into irrelevancy. (Salon, Nov. 2003) “As each day goes by,” Cleland said, “we learn that this government knew a whole lot more about these terrorists before September 11 than it has ever admitted…. They had a plan to go to war and when 9/11 happened that’s what they did; they went to war.” IT IS A SCAM! … an obstruction! See <br /><a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rcq3YFq55n8">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rcq3YFq55n8</a><br /><br /><br />Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton said that the CIA “obstructed our investigation.” They also said that the 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials (NORAD) misrepresented the facts to the Commission, and the Commission considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements, yet didn’t bother to tell the American people. <br /> The commission asked for "all documents related to the FAA's tracking of hijacked airliners on 9/11," including communications with the NORAD, that dispatched fighter jets in response to the attacks. <br /> Thomas Kean said. "We were told that documents didn't exist and that we had everything we asked for. We discovered through our own investigation that the FAA had not turned over dozens of boxes of material, including "various (audio) tapes, statements, interview reports and agency self-assessments. I would rather feel that it was a lack of priority or knowledge of what they had, and not that they intentionally tried to hide things from us. But we don't know for sure."<br /> Lee Hamilton says “I don’t believe for a minute we got everything right”, that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, that the 9/11 debate should continue, and that the 9/11 Commission report was only “the first draft” of history.<br />Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that “There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn’t have access . . . .”<br /> Commissioner Timothy Roemer said “We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting. We were not sure of the intent, whether it was to deceive the commission or merely part of the fumbling bureaucracy." (CNN, Aug. 2006) <br /> <br /> Commissioner John Lehman said that “We purposely put together a staff that had - in a way - conflicts of interest“.<br />The Senior Counsel (investigator) to the 9/11 Commission, John Farmer, said “I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years…. This is not spin. This is not true.” <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-youtube"> <div class="pta-link-card-video"> <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/K-C2fVXuR6o?wmode=transparent" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-C2fVXuR6o">Ghosts of Abu Ghraib 2007 [Full Documentary]</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">Ghosts of Abu Ghraib. This is a film that needs to be seen by every American. It is a stark lesson in what happens when we are led by individuals who have no...</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> CW3 Dick McManus Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:13:59 -0500 2015-11-17T13:13:59-05:00 Response by CW3 Dick McManus made Nov 17 at 2015 1:15 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/terrorism-has-been-nothing-to-worry-about-in-the-us-prior-to-9-11-and-until-today?n=1114167&urlhash=1114167 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>People who want a new Congressional investigation of the mass murder of 9/11. <br /><br /><br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.ae911truth.org/">http://www.ae911truth.org/</a> 2,358 architects and Engineers<br /><a target="_blank" href="https://www.facebook.com/ae911truth">https://www.facebook.com/ae911truth</a> 287,821 members of this facebook page<br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.stj911.org/members/index.html">http://www.stj911.org/members/index.html</a> over 600<br /> <a target="_blank" href="http://patriotsquestion911.com/">http://patriotsquestion911.com/</a> <br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.seattle911visibilityproject.org/where_they_stand_tech.htm">http://www.seattle911visibilityproject.org/where_they_stand_tech.htm</a><br /><br />384 members of the facebook page <br /> 9/11 Truth Seattle: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/">https://www.facebook.com/groups/</a> [login to see] 2870/<br /><br />People who want a new investigation of events of 9/11<br /><br />Candidate and Governor Lincoln Chaffee - D<br />Former US Senator Mike Gravel -AK<br />Former President Jimmy Carter<br />Vice President Walter Mondale <br />Senator Charles Schumer<br />Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, JD <br />US Senator Al Franken see: <a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmGQedEAxfk">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmGQedEAxfk</a><br />US. Senator Max Cleland <br /><br /><br />US Senator Patrick Leahy,VT-D<br />Gov. Walter Peterson-NH<br />Former US Rep. Dan Hamburg – R <br />Former U.S. Rep. Curt Weldon – R <br />former Rep. Cynthia McKinney <br />former Rep. Dennis Kucinich <br />former Gov. Jessey Ventura <br />Sen. Rand Paul <br />Ron Paul<br />Rep. Curt Weldon <br />Former FBI Director, Louis Freeh <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/029/336/qrc/NJIT-banner-row-Gage-Tour-370.jpg?1447784114"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://www.ae911truth.org/">World Trade Center Building 7 Demolished on 9/11? - Home</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description"></p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> CW3 Dick McManus Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:15:38 -0500 2015-11-17T13:15:38-05:00 Response by Col Joseph Lenertz made Nov 17 at 2015 1:21 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/terrorism-has-been-nothing-to-worry-about-in-the-us-prior-to-9-11-and-until-today?n=1114189&urlhash=1114189 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Chief, I disagree with most of what you've posted. I have not been struck by lightning, or hit by lighting, but I have, and every American has, lost liberties they once had, due to terrorism. It's real. Col Joseph Lenertz Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:21:07 -0500 2015-11-17T13:21:07-05:00 2015-11-17T13:13:59-05:00