Syrian refugees in US are thoroughly vetted, John Kerry says.

2015-11-24T12:56:40-05:00

I don't see how this could be possibly done when I see on the National newscast that there is no paperwork on the refugees. Their names aren't known, except for what they say their names are. Also, with Obama out of office, how will this be handled with the new administration? Had there not been any terrorist rhetoric about ISIS and Al Qaida, this wouldn't be going on. But, there is terrorists in our country and many others, waiting for the opportunity to kill all they can. Even if 90% of the Syrians coming into our country were not radicals, the remaining 10% who are radicals, could create some deadly attacks. IMO, we need to give this more time for our safety in our own country.
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WASHINGTON — Secretary of State John Kerry, seeking to allay fears from the Paris terror attacks and muffle the outcry over a plan to accept 10,000 Syrian refugees in the next year, has sent a lengthy letter to Governor Charlie Baker of Massachusetts and his counterparts detailing the tough screening procedures for the immigrants.

The 4½-page letter details the type of refugees who receive priority — families, victims of torture, and children — and describes the multiple screening steps refugees must pass.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2015/11/23/john-kerry-outlines-syrian-refugee-vetting-procedures-letter-charlie-baker-and-other-governors/uEMgaj4nzGY0DDjYL8a2uK/story.html?s_campaign=email_BG_TodaysHeadline&s_campaign=

John Kerry outlines Syrian refugee vetting procedures in letter to Charlie Baker and other...

The outcry over President Obama’s plan to accept 10,000 Syrian refugees over the next year has prompted Secretary of State John Kerry to write a lengthy letter to Massachusetts Governor Charlie Baker and other governors outlining security vetting procedures.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 24 at 2015 12:58 PM

2015-11-24T12:58:17-05:00

No, they are not vetted. Then again this is John Kerry making such an absurd claim. SMH!!!

Response by SFC Kevin Cornett made Nov 24 at 2015 12:59 PM

2015-11-24T12:59:13-05:00

The agencies that do the vetting, say that they are unable to thoroughly and reliably complete the vetting process. But Kerry says they are... so they must be, right?

Response by SCPO David Lockwood made Nov 24 at 2015 1:01 PM

2015-11-24T13:01:13-05:00

Just like those who flew the planes into the World Trade Center!

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Nov 24 at 2015 1:26 PM

2015-11-24T13:26:42-05:00

Either he is that stupid or he thinks we are. Which is it?

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Nov 24 at 2015 2:54 PM

2015-11-24T14:54:59-05:00

Baloney!

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 24 at 2015 2:57 PM

2015-11-24T14:57:06-05:00

John Kerry, LOL! Every time I see his name linked to Secretary of State, I keep trying to wake up from the nightmare.

Edit: Just remember, there were still some GOP senators who had to cross the aisle to confirm his nomination as Secretary of State.

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Nov 24 at 2015 3:54 PM

2015-11-24T15:54:55-05:00

That view is not realistic when considering the attitudes of many Muslims both here and abroad. From the horse's mouth -

http://www.commdiginews.com/featured/al-jazeera-poll-suggests-81-of-arab-muslims-support-isis-42253/

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 24 at 2015 4:23 PM

2015-11-24T16:23:37-05:00

So... the refugees are cool because we asked them and they said "nope. No terrorists here."
Problem Solved.

Response by SPC George Rudenko made Nov 24 at 2015 4:27 PM

2015-11-24T16:27:26-05:00

So, in my little customs world, we would spend about an hourish with each refugee family. FBI, ICE, CIA usually have spooks nearby. What we don't know, is their "record" from Syria. Were they criminals there etc.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 24 at 2015 4:45 PM

2015-11-24T16:45:53-05:00

I will repeat. I am not sure make me more angry that they tell us stuff like this or that they think we are stupid enough to believe it.

Response by LTC John Shaw made Nov 24 at 2015 4:58 PM

2015-11-24T16:58:04-05:00

SGT Private RallyPoint Member You can tell he is lying because his mouth is moving. The Democratic/GOP establishment & funding sources and this administration are Statist, they want to bring in more to votes to increase their power. I don't trust any of them, main stream media or their cronies. These are difficult issues, we need to be honest with ourselves and the American public.
We need to deal with American problems and stop trying to solve the world's problems. The refugees should not be moved from their homes in Syria or Jordan.

Response by CPT Aaron Kletzing made Nov 24 at 2015 7:21 PM

2015-11-24T19:21:45-05:00

Vetting people is well intentioned but even stringent processes can be outsmarted. Good intentions only go so far.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 25 at 2015 10:23 AM

2015-11-25T10:23:55-05:00

How can they vet the Syrians when the vetting process is flawed? If these below made it into the country, imagine this list 2 years from now, 5 years from now, 10...

•On January 29, 2015, in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, a federal warrant was unsealed for the arrest of Liban Haji Mohamed – a native of Somalia who sources indicate came to the United States as a refugee, adjusted to Lawful Permanent Resident status, and subsequently applied for and received citizenship – for allegedly providing material support to Harakat Shabaab Al-Mujahidin, also known as Al-Shabaab and Al-Qaeda. Mohamed is believed to have left the U.S. on July 5, 2012, with the intent to join Al-Shabaab in East Africa. Mohamed previously lived in the metro D.C. area and worked as a cab driver, and is believed to have snuck across the border to Mexico after being placed on the no-fly list. Carl Ghattas, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI’s Washington, D.C. Field Office emphasized the importance of locating Mohamed, “because he has knowledge of the Washington, D.C. area’s infrastructure such as shopping areas, Metro, airports, and government buildings . . . [t]his makes him an asset to his terrorist associates who might plot attacks on U.S. soil.” Arrest Warrant

•On February 5, 2015, in the United States District Court for the Western District of Texas, Abdinassir Mohamud Ibrahim – a native of Somalia who came to the United States as a refugee in 2007 at the age of 22 and subsequently adjusted to Lawful Permanent Resident status – was sentenced to 15 years in federal prison for conspiring to provide material support to Al-Shabaab, a designated foreign terrorist organization, and for making a false statement in his immigration paperwork. Ibrahim knowingly lied in his application for citizenship, and previously lied on his request for refugee status, by falsely claiming that he was of a member of the minority Awer clan in Somalia and subject to persecution by the majority Hawiye clan. However, Ibrahim was actually a member of the Hawiye clan and not subject to persecution. In fact, according to the Complaint, “Ibrahim’s family was famous . . . [and] [t]hrough his clan lineage, Ibrahim was related to known Somali terrorists[.]” Ibrahim also admitted he had lied on his citizenship application by having previously lied on his refugee application by falsely claiming that he had not provided material support to a terrorist group, when he had in fact provided material support in the form of cash to an Al-Shabaab member. Criminal Complaint Indictment

•On February 5, 2015, in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri, Abdullah Ramo Pazara – a native of Bosnia who sources indicate came to the United States as a refugee, adjusted to Lawful Permanent Resident status, and subsequently applied for and received citizenship in 2013 – was named in an indictment against six individuals listed below. Pazara was not charged because, purportedly, he is believed to be dead. According to the Indictment, the others listed provided material support to Pazara, who left the United States to go to Syria and fight with ISIS just eleven days after becoming a citizen. Among other things, Pazara allegedly told an individual about a mission where they “captured a large area, killed even individuals, captured one, and added that they intended to slaughter the prisoner the follow[ing] day.” According to press accounts, at the time Pazara was purportedly killed in Syria, he was a deputy to one of the top ISIS commanders. Indictment

• On February 5, 2015, in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri, Ramiz Zijad Hodzic – a native of Bosnia, and a purported Bosnian war hero who came to the United States as a refugee – was charged with conspiring to provide material support and resources to terrorists, with providing material support to terrorists, and conspiring to kill and maim persons in a foreign country. According to the indictment, among other things, Hodzic obtained money that he used to “purchase materials and supplies including: United States military uniforms, tactical combat boots, military surplus goods, tactical gear and clothing, firearms accessories, optical equipment and range finders, rifle scopes, equipment, and supplies . . . intending that the materials and supplies would thereafter be transferred to, and used to support” Abdullah Ramo Pazara and ISIS. Indictment

•On February 5, 2015, in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri, Sedina Unkic Hodzic – the wife of Ramiz Zijad Hodzic, and a native of Bosnia who came to the United States as a refugee – was charged with conspiring to provide material support and resources to terrorists, and providing material support to terrorists. According to the indictment, Sedina, along with her husband, collected money from third parties and wired it to terrorists abroad. Also according to the indictment, Sedina shipped six boxes of U.S. military uniforms, combat boots, tactical clothing and gear, military surplus items, firearms accessories, rifle scopes, optical equipment, first aid supplies, and other equipment to terrorists abroad. Indictment

•On February 5, 2015, in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri, Armin Harcevic – a native of Bosnia who came to the United States as a refugee, and subsequently adjusted to Lawful Permanent Resident status – was charged with conspiring to provide material support and resources to terrorists, and with providing material support to terrorists. According to the Indictment, Harcevic collected money from third parties and wired it and his own funds to terrorists abroad. Indictment

•On February 5, 2015, in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri, Nihad Rosic – a native of Bosnia who sources indicate came to the United States as a refugee, adjusted to Lawful Permanent Resident status, and subsequently applied for and received citizenship – was charged with conspiring to provide material support and resources to terrorists, providing material support to terrorists, and conspiring to kill and maim persons in a foreign country. According to the indictment, Rosic sent funds to terrorists abroad, and attempted to travel to Syria to join terrorists in Syria and Iraq. According to press accounts, Rosic was a truck driver and former mixed martial arts fighter who had previously been charged with endangering the welfare of a child after punching a woman in the face while she held a child, and in a separate incident, was charged with assault after allegedly beating his girlfriend with a belt. Indictment

•On February 5, 2015, in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri, Mediha Medy Salkicevic – a native of Bosnia who sources indicate came to the United States as a refugee, adjusted to Lawful Permanent Resident status, and subsequently applied for and received citizenship – was charged with conspiring to provide material support and resources to terrorists, and providing material support to terrorists. According to press accounts, Salkicevic was formerly an employee with a cargo company that deals with items coming in and out of Chicago’s O’Hare International Airport. According to the indictment, Salkicevic collected money from third parties and wired it and her own funds to terrorists abroad. Indictment

•On February 5, 2015, in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri, Jasminka Ramic – a native of Bosnia who sources indicate came to the United States as a refugee, adjusted to Lawful Permanent Resident status, and subsequently applied for and received citizenship – was charged with conspiring to provide material support and resources to terrorists, and providing material support to terrorists. According to the indictment, Ramic collected money from third parties and wired it and her own funds to terrorists abroad. Indictment

•On April 20, 2015, in the United States District Court for the District of Minnesota, Abdurahman Yasin Daud – who was born in a refugee camp in Kenya, came to the United States as a refugee when he was a child, and subsequently adjusted to Lawful Permanent Resident status – was charged (along with six others) with conspiracy and attempt to provide material support to ISIS. Daud and another individual drove from Minnesota to San Diego to attempt to get passports, cross the border into Mexico, and fly to Syria in an attempt to join ISIS. Criminal Complaint Indictment

•On April 20, 2015, in the United States District Court for the District of Minnesota, Guled Ali Omar – who was also born in a Kenyan refugee camp, and sources indicate came to the United States as a refugee when he was a child, adjusted to Lawful Permanent Resident status, and subsequently applied for and received citizenship – was charged with conspiracy and attempt to provide material support to ISIS. Omar is the younger brother of another indicted fugitive, Ahmed Ali Omar, who left the United States in 2007 to fight for Al-Shabaab. Another one of his brothers, Mohamed Ali Omar, was convicted in March of threatening federal agents when they came to the family’s residence to interview Guled Omar. During a press conference, U.S. Attorney for the District of Minnesota, Andy Luger, said that Omar “never stopped plotting,” and had previously attempted to leave the United States. Criminal Complaint Indictment

•On August 12, 2015, in the United States District Court for the District of Idaho, Fazliddin Kurbanov – a native of Uzbekistan who came to the United States as a refugee in 2009 – was found guilty on charges that he conspired and attempted to provide material support to a designated foreign terrorist organization and possessed an unregistered destructive device. U.S. Assistant Attorney General John Carlin stated that he “conspired to provide material support to the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan and procured bomb-making materials in the interest of perpetrating a terrorist attack on American soil.” According to press reports, Kurbanov began his life as a Muslim, but faced persecution after his family converted to Orthodox Christianity. After coming to the United States with his family as a refugee, Kurbanov is said to have converted back to Islam and radicalized. Superseding Indictment Original Indictment (Idaho) Original Indictment (Utah)

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/24/sen-sessions-reveals-15-refugee-jihadis-hopes-shrink-obamas-2016-refugee-budget/

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Response by Sgt Kelli Mays made Nov 25 at 2015 10:29 AM

2015-11-25T10:29:16-05:00

Seriously! Kerry lies through his teeth...look at the lies he told about while he was in Vietnam. There is no way to fully vet these folks.

Family's? Victims of torture? What he thinks that if you are part of a family, you are not a terrorists? Look at the female who blew herself up in France. She was family...part of a family.

DUDE! It's not just men who are terrorists and members of ISIS/ISIL

You want them here...Have them move into your house...your state...WITH YOUR FAMILY!

....and torture victims? How do you really know someone was tortured? Just because they say so? just because it looks like they were tortured? Yea...right...Whose to say they were not tortured on purpose to look that way so they can get onto American soil.

Give me a freaking break.

I say, if they end up letting them over here...then they should only go to the STATES where these idiots who want them here are from....and only to their HOME TOWNS...and stay with ONLY THEIR RELATIVES....

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 25 at 2015 12:41 PM

2015-11-25T12:41:31-05:00

SGT Private RallyPoint Member Do you know the source of the picture?

Response by MSG Floyd Williams made Nov 25 at 2015 1:29 PM

2015-11-25T13:29:41-05:00

How can the U.S take any refugees when military raises is at a minimum, social security being at risk, also reduction in the military forces because of the so-called saving on spending of manpower, training, and updated weaponry, and a whole lot more unjustifiable reasons?

Response by SGT William Howell made Nov 25 at 2015 2:20 PM

2015-11-25T14:20:17-05:00

So I college I had a friend that was from the UAE. His father was filthy rich. Oman would go out and get credit cards like crazy. He would max them out and then go get some more. I told him he would have to pay these off at some point or his credit would be wrecked for life. You know what his response was??? "Oh when I go home I'll just have them change my passport and get a new visa. I'll be an entirely new person to the credit card companies when I return next year."

I can't see how it will be any different with the terrorist.

Response by SPC Charles Brown made Nov 26 at 2015 7:32 AM

2015-11-26T07:32:43-05:00

And yet another fucking idiot in government speaks his version of the truth. Vetted, if the only question is are you Syrian then yes they have been vetted. Know the level of retardation in our leadership this is probably what they call vetting.