Should women be required to register with the Selective Service upon turning 18?

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Should women be required to register with the Selective Service upon turning 18?

Bonus: Why or why not?

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Oct 10 at 2014 6:30 PM

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What's good for one is good for the other especially if combat arms is fully integrated.

Response by MSG Wade Huffman made Oct 10 at 2014 8:00 PM

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Sure, it's just registration. I seriously doubt that the draft will ever again be implemented, and even if it is there will be more waivers, exceptions, and ineligibles than there would be draftees anyway.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 10 at 2014 8:11 PM

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Why not? People always ask for equal rights for all and if you want equality for all then fair is fair. I think the rest of the females on this site can agree that women are capable of serving in the military so I don't see the big deal with them entering their name to the Draft in case our nation needs us.

Response by TSgt Joshua Copeland made Oct 10 at 2014 8:16 PM

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We want to be equal right?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 10 at 2014 8:17 PM

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I think as we move forward with allowing women to serve in all MOS to include combat arms, they should also be required to register for the Selective Service.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 10 at 2014 8:41 PM

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Yes, because they're equal to men. If men have to register, women should be required to register as well.

Response by SPC Dave St.Andrew made Oct 10 at 2014 9:10 PM

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They get to go to Ranger school now, why not be drafted. Equal rights

Response by SFC Kenneth Hunnell made Oct 10 at 2014 9:14 PM

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The draft has not been an option for the men, if you apply for a government job, they ask if you are male and if you were born after 12/31/1959.

That would make any politician think twice before getting into any war. That would also show how equal the people really want to be

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 10 at 2014 11:48 PM

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Equality is equality

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 11 at 2014 3:38 AM

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The Army and politicos want to keep pushing for gender equality, so why should I have to register and my sister would not? Either everyone is equally equal, or no one is. If that makes any sense.

Response by PO3 Shaun Taylor made Oct 11 at 2014 4:34 AM

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Yes, just for the sake of equality, but I honestly don't feel that anyone should be forced to register.

Response by SSG Trevor S. made Oct 11 at 2014 12:43 PM

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Yes, I completely agree with equitable treatment. Equitable includes the not so nice sides of life too.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 11 at 2014 2:21 PM

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I think you should a mininum of 3 years in the military. Think about it.

1) Unemplyment would go down.
2) Overweight population would go down
3) It can be open to EVERYONE since all restrictions have been eliminated, i.e. gays and women.
4) Most countries in Europe require military service if you dont have a job lined up (We like to copy Europe, and see bullet number 1) you can serve

I dont see why this couldnt work out. Or if anything else, make the National Guard, or Active Guard madatory

Response by LTC Hillary Luton made Oct 11 at 2014 5:12 PM

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To be honest, since women have fought so hard to be allowed in combat positions, then why shouldn't we be required to register? And if women complain about it, then I guess it goes back to "be careful what you wish for." I'm a believer in - if a population screams and complains and demands to be treated equal, then it must be equal in all realms, not just in the realms that appeal to them.
The only thing I ask for is an equal opportunity to prove myself. If I can't cut it, then I do not deserve it. But if I take the opportunity, work my butt off and prove myself capable, then I do deserve to be treated as an equal.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 11 at 2014 5:14 PM

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If they want equal pay for equal work/risk, then they need to be on the hook just like we are.

Response by SGT Alicia Brenneis made Oct 11 at 2014 5:14 PM

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I said this in a previous response but ill say it again. If you want equality you have to take the good with the bad. That is what true equality is. I personally do not think women should be in every MOS. This is not to say we are not fully capable of succeeding in every MOS. We most certainly can. Just because we can do It doesn't mean we should. I guess my point is, if we want it... we have to take all of it.

Response by SSgt Thomas A Tullis Jr made Oct 11 at 2014 7:57 PM

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Women want to treated equally.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 11 at 2014 10:17 PM

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Absolutely. We have been begging for equality for decades. Let's put our cards on the table and go full hooah or let's just shut up about it.

Response by LTC Paul Labrador made Oct 11 at 2014 10:30 PM

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If we are going to open combat arms assignments to females, then yes, they should. The draft was intended as a method to bring in a lot of soldiers in a very short time. Most of those drafted soldiers would go into combat arms assignments, which is why females have been historically exempted.

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Oct 11 at 2014 10:48 PM

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Equal means just that.

Response by PO3 Dr. Todd Marquez, PT, DPT, MA made Oct 11 at 2014 10:50 PM

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For equality - Yes! In actuality - No! This country will never successfully perform a draft again.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 12 at 2014 12:26 AM

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It is part of the whole package of being equal.

Response by SSG V. Michelle Woods made Oct 12 at 2014 12:32 AM

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Are there even any women on here who think we SHOULDN'T have to register? Pretty sure the majority of us believe it's perfectly fair for both sexes to be required to register.

Response by SGT Richard H. made Oct 12 at 2014 12:37 AM

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I think so. Equal rights=equal responsibility, right?

Response by Sgt Packy Flickinger made Oct 12 at 2014 12:42 AM

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I vote no. I'm not against women in the military, I just don't think it should be mandatory for them should the need arise.

Response by Cpl Ray Fernandez made Oct 12 at 2014 1:15 AM

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If we are to truly be an equal society we should require everyone to register for selective service. If the military is going to open up combat arms to both genders, then the burden should be shared. I think it would make us even more cautious to reinstate a draft as no politician would take the stand that we need to reinstate a draft even if they're doing it to grandstand like Charlie Rangel did when he claimed the Republicans were going to bring back the draft and he ended up proposing a call for the draft during the Iraq War.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 12 at 2014 1:37 AM

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If they want equal opportunities, give them what they want. Require it.

Response by PO1 Rick Serviss made Oct 12 at 2014 6:45 AM

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There's probably very few people on this site that has ever seen anyone drafted. I never served when there was a draft going on. Remember Desert Shield/Desert Storm? A lot of ROTC officers from the Reserves were ordered to active duty. That wasn't a draft. It was more like a mobilization than anything else. If the country did, then women should be subject to a draft just like men.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 12 at 2014 8:47 AM

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If women want true equality, they should be required to register with Selective Service. Secondly, if not, then it's time to allow male US citizens to be allowed access to federal aid without signing up

Response by SPC James Mcneil made Oct 12 at 2014 8:50 AM

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There is a lot of talk about how women can do anything men can do. If that's the case, why are they not required to do the same things? Suddenly once that is brought up, the tone of the conversation changes.
Women's bodies are different, their strengths are different, etc. And I agree. And for that reason, women can't do "anything men can do." And men can't do anything women can do. There are things we do better, and we should focus on our strengths.
Having said that, registering with the selective service did not put me in a position to have to "go infantry" should I be called up. It merely added my name to the pool. Women should have to do the same thing.

Response by SFC William Swartz Jr made Oct 12 at 2014 9:36 AM

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If we are going to be and should be, a country where equality across the board is the name of the game, then women should be subject to the same requirements as the men. We are opening up combat arms MOSs/jobs to women that choose to join them, why should they then not be held to the same law as the men? Once a male turns 18 he is required by law to enroll in the Selective Service and if he does not, he is not eligible for Federal Education funds such as Pell Grants, as of today the same does not apply for females, kinda seems unequal to me.

Response by SSgt Tim Meuret made Oct 12 at 2014 10:14 AM

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I say yes. At this point it would be symbolic. Since, we would never have the time to gear up like we did for WWII, I don't believe the draft will ever be instituted again.

From a purely equality standpoint it should happen though. A women can get a Pell Grant or a Federal Student Loan without being registered and a man cannot.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 12 at 2014 11:50 AM

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And I would go one further and say anyone seeking political office must have served at least 2 years. Though not to get off topic I think that if everyone had to serve 2yrs so in essence basic, a technical training and OJT. Then the nation as a whole would be a lot better off and we would see health problems dropping and crime going down, citys would be cleaner.. ect..

Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 12 at 2014 11:51 AM

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In an era where events unfold rapidly, what is the point of selective service as it currently exists? If people were ever called up, there would be mass confusion. Every citizen should go through some sort of program so that in the event of an emergency they, at a minimum, know what they are or are not supposed to do.

Response by LTC Barry Hull made Oct 12 at 2014 12:23 PM

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That is where equality of the sexes int he military should begin.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 12 at 2014 12:59 PM

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Most MOS's are open to women, so the "combat" issue is all but non-exisistant now which was the reasoning before.

So why not?

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 12 at 2014 2:36 PM

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In the equal rights movement, there should be equal responsibility.

Response by Cpl Peter Martuneac made Oct 12 at 2014 4:00 PM

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No, because nobody should be required to register for a draft. Conscripted service goes against everything this country stands for.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 12 at 2014 5:00 PM

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Yup, why? I've been hearing a lot about "equal opportunity." Okay, have equal opportunity and equal standards in everything. Draft... Military schooling... Ect...

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 12 at 2014 7:10 PM

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I kind of think they should, but I also think it's a moot point...by the time something gets bad enough that our civilian leadership is willing to institute another draft, women will already be fighting an enemy in our own country.

Response by SFC Dr. Joseph Finck, BS, MA, DSS made Oct 12 at 2014 7:57 PM

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Equality is desired, by most. In countries which implement the draft, some require women to serve alongside men. Since women serve in the military and in the spirit of ensuring all things are and become more equal, I think registration for all is a proactive and positive move.

Honestly, I do not see the draft as being a possibility in the foreseeable future, but if it comes to pass. All for one and one for all.

Response by MSG Charles Brown made Oct 12 at 2014 11:03 PM

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Of course, equality throughout!

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 13 at 2014 3:17 AM

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Fair is fair, and everything is supposed to be equal, right?

Response by MAJ Ronnie Reams made Oct 13 at 2014 12:26 PM

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AFAIK, there has never been a shortage of female volunteers when draft was in effect. I see no reason to draft them.

Response by PO3 William Chapman made Oct 13 at 2014 2:52 PM

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If they want to be equal in the military and in general then they should be required to register.
It's discrimination to only require males to register.

Response by PO2 Rocky Kleeger made Oct 13 at 2014 3:48 PM

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With equal rights, they have to take the good with the bad

Response by SFC(P) Tobias M. made Oct 13 at 2014 4:52 PM

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They are now allowed in combat positions why not?

Response by SGT Nathan Huff made Oct 13 at 2014 5:41 PM

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all should be required.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 13 at 2014 6:11 PM

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No. The Selective Service should be entirely abolished. There is nothing in the history of the United States to suggest that a conscript Army is either good for the nation as a whole, or that we cannot make do with an all-volunteer Army. If a draft is needed to fight a war, then we have already lost it.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 13 at 2014 7:28 PM

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men have to do it why not us?

Response by CMDCM Gene Treants made Oct 13 at 2014 10:44 PM

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There is no valid reason for women to be exempt from the draft. Either they are citizens of this country with all of the rights and responsibilities that go with that title or they are not. Try telling any woman she is not equal to any man and be prepared for a fight. Yes, all citizens of the USA need to register with the Selective Service.

Response by SCPO Larry Payne made Oct 14 at 2014 12:13 AM

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We are already in an era where women are on the front lines. The Navy currently have female officers going through submarine training. The Marines have women who just passed the initial infantry training. Are the Army Rangers far behind? Or the Air Forces' Para-rescue Jumpers (PJ's)? Gone is the era where women are relegated to the ranks of Yeoman or medical technicians. We have female fighters, pilots and ship drivers. We have female Senior NCO's, and four star flag officers. Women are already doing what the men do. So it is either time to do away with the selective service altogether, or include women. Separate but equal is not equality.

Response by LCDR Paul Craig made Oct 14 at 2014 12:40 AM

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EQUALITY!

Response by SSG Jacob Wiley made Oct 14 at 2014 11:12 AM

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Everyone screams about equality these days. Women in combat MOSs, going to Ranger school and so on. Want to be looked at like a Soldier - not a female. SO - they can register just like the males do and it can be 100% even across the board.

Response by SGT Lynn Strezeski, DSc made Oct 14 at 2014 2:15 PM

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I don't understand why women don't have to register. It's not the 1950s anymore.

Response by MSgt Glenn Dagan made Oct 14 at 2014 3:42 PM

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Equal rights for all

Response by SGT Kristin Wiley made Oct 14 at 2014 3:48 PM

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Yes, everyone should be registered, although I think reasonable exceptions should be made on who is drafted (should it occur again). Ie. not drafting single parents, pregnant, medical issues, and similar situations

Response by CPL George Cruz made Oct 14 at 2014 6:06 PM

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That's the only right thing to do. We want and fight for equal opportunity. And we should also require corporation to sign up for selective services since they are people too

Response by Capt Lance Gallardo made Oct 14 at 2014 6:42 PM

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ABSOLUTELY! The biggest form of gender based discrimination is ONLY forcing Males present in the US at 18 (legal, illegal, that's right illegal aliens are required to register for the selective service between 18-26) to register for the Draft! Women can serve in in Work of National Importance (read "non-armed forces" service) until we have removed the combat prohibitions completely against their gender. I know families that have only male children of draft age, as well as the opposite. How is it fair to tell an all male, draft age family (sons between 18-26), that your children are at risk of being drafted and their gender mirror family of all female draft age children, you are not at risk at all??? The pain of the draft must be spread out between gender as well as class. Yes, we do have different socio-economic classes here in the US and the Middle class and Poor are disproportionately serving in the military. The rich and upper class are most MIA when it comes to military service. My first cousin and my brother in law all have three girls each in their families and are completely safe from a potential draft. This is incredibly unequal and unfair. The last 13 years plus of GWOT have fallen disproportionately on young men and their families as it has on all of America's wars since our founding as a Nation.

Response by SSgt Nicole Biscoe made Oct 14 at 2014 7:48 PM

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I still don't understand why women don't have to register and think it's ridiculous. It again goes back to outdated policies.

Response by SSG Keven Lahde made Oct 15 at 2014 12:40 AM

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I feel as long as they can fight along side of in combat, why not? They are some women that I would take over some men. So why not, let them register. They have just as much of a right to serve as us men do.

Response by PVT Hans Rasmussen made Oct 15 at 2014 3:24 AM

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Absolutely Not...I say this only because women still have freedoms and the right to chose to join the Armed Services so lets leave it that way ... Most conscripts, not all. but most become cannon fodder...Most conscript don't have a choice to what A-school , Tech or MOS to which they are assigned.....War is Hell and most conscripts are front-line replacements and the Selective Service was designed and implemented for conventional warfare. This is a Grey area that should just be left alone....I agree with women in combat just because there are some Full Metal Bitches that could whoop my ass (lol, scarey but true) but I wouldn't agree with the Government mandating that my Granddaughter, Niece, or Daughter fight a war that I'am to old for, if it came down to that I would gladly step up and take there place if conscripted....May your days be filled with Warm Tropical Breezes and Spit Free Camels......Shalom

Response by CPO Christopher Bren made Oct 15 at 2014 5:32 AM

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No one should, it should remain a totally voluntary service, no registration required.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Oct 15 at 2014 9:32 AM

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Yes. All things/people being equal, there are no reasons to exempt women. That would be sexist.

Response by COL Timothy S. made Oct 15 at 2014 10:48 AM

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Absolutely. Men are currently required to do so before being considered for any federal or state employment. All things being equal in the military now, limiting the requirement to only males is outdated and, by current standards, sexist.

Response by SFC Kelly Bristow made Oct 15 at 2014 7:48 PM

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I think we cover enough with males registering for selective service that would preclude females from doing it as well. If we had to dip into the female population for a draft, we would be in serious trouble. Not taking anything away from the female population, but with as many males that must register at age 18, there should be no need for females to do the same.

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 16 at 2014 5:32 PM

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Ill take it a little further also. Not only should women now be included in Selective Service, but I think we should reinstitute the draft effective immediately. Id say a good 12 million would be a good initial draft number to bolster the military. I would absolutely draft men and women. I would not promote any draftee's beyond the rank of E4 or O3, require a 3 year minimum draft term and provide Full GI Bill benefits to all draftee's. I think we could take care of a number of issues that face the country right now including unemployment, job training and defense. Thats just my take on the matter.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 17 at 2014 9:20 AM

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Rostker v. Goldberg established that the lack of combat arms MOS availability to women excluded them needing to register. Current trends in allowing women into positions (provided they all prove true) should supersede the ruling providing someone challenges it in court.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 17 at 2014 6:52 PM

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They keep talking about gender equality...Same PT standards (don't lax the current standards either) and make them sign up for the Selective Service...

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 19 at 2014 1:44 PM

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If women are going to fight to be treated as equally as men by the services then that should include the selective service registration...if you're gonna do it don't do it half way.

Response by SN Jennifer M. made Oct 29 at 2014 8:55 AM

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I don't see why not.

Response by MAJ Dallas D. made Oct 29 at 2014 1:31 PM

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Equal treatment so yes!

Response by LTC Stephen C. made Oct 29 at 2014 1:56 PM

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SFC Private RallyPoint Member, yes, women should register with the Selective Service System as do men. However, SS registration is not tantamount to being drafted.

Response by PO3 Melvin Webster made Oct 29 at 2014 2:16 PM

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It seems only fitting. Especially now with women taking on active roles in combat.

Response by MSG Brad Sand made Oct 29 at 2014 3:11 PM

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Be carefull what you ask for.

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Oct 29 at 2014 3:23 PM

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Women should be required to register for the draft and serve, if women are going to be given the same opportunities in the military as men, without exception (as long as they can meet the qualifications, which would not include gender).

If women are restricted in what they can and cannot do in the military (by regulations/law pertaining to gender, not physical ability), then I would say no; their service should be voluntary.

Response by SGT(P) Harry Clyde Jr. made Oct 29 at 2014 5:28 PM

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To keep it simple. With the current age of equality and fields opening up to women, why not or just abolish it all together. In times of great need, the volunteers will roll in as in times past.
My 2 bits.

Response by MSG Brad Sand made Oct 29 at 2014 8:48 PM

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Response by SGT Jim Z. made Oct 29 at 2014 8:58 PM

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They should be required just like the male population and the reason is a male that fails to register disqualifies himself for Federal Student Loans but yet females are not held to the same standard.

Response by MAJ Ronnie Reams made Oct 30 at 2014 12:49 PM

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Speaking of draftees that stayed.

http://www.dvidshub.net/news/146298/last-continuously-serving-draftee-retires-after-42-years-service

Last continuously serving draftee retires after 42 years of service

As the cold wind blows on a crisp and calm morning in South Korea, a voice echoes, Get Ready! Get Set! Begin!

Response by PFC Stephen Eric Serati made Oct 31 at 2014 12:26 PM

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If true equality is to be achieved

Response by CW2 Pamela (Carpenter) Wolf made Nov 5 at 2014 11:03 PM

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Registering of females in the cause of equality is indicated by the times we are now in; drafting of females is a different question, but one that some are answering here anyway. I believe that drafting females is still a far stretch from society's norms at this point in history. As someone said, how would we decide as a society that this is something we would support? Voter ballot?

It has always been the case that child-bearing and child-rearing are critical to take into consideration when the topic of drafting women has been brought up. From where I sit, as long as females are not being restricted and given the option to serve in any capacity, I see the equality issue being served without the need to draft females.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 25 at 2014 7:56 PM

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“If you’re going to take advantage of all of the benefits of a democracy, then I think you should also bear the responsibility as well.” SB - retired officer

Response by SFC Rapfeal Mayfield made Feb 3 at 2015 5:58 PM

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Equal Opportunity

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Feb 3 at 2015 6:07 PM

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Opinions are slippery things. They're hard to hang onto unless you never think about them.

For example, I've been for and against capital punishment many times over. I have gone through the same process with mandatory service. What other reason would there be for requiring women as well as men to register with the Selective Service?

Sure, I too thought that we'd all be better off if everyone, men and women, performed two or three years of mandatory service in the military or some other capacity. However, the success of the all-volunteer force has pried me off that position. Today's service men and women are better educated, better trained, better equipped, better motivated... better in every way than any military that included conscripts.

Also, forcing men and women to serve in the military or a civilian service corps would be akin to the days when young criminals were given the choice of either going to jail or going into the Army. Effectively, all we did was to pass civilian problems onto the military (who begged judges to stop the practice).

The simple truth is that everyone serves their country, whether it be in the military, the civil service, or in private industry. Well, everyone except those able-bodied persons who choose to leach off the government.

That being said, I suppose that if we have a Selective Service System based on some hypothetical need that may arise in the future, sure men and women both should be required to register. Why not?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 3 at 2015 6:53 PM

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Selective Service and registration should be ended.

Response by SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL made Feb 3 at 2015 7:01 PM

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Equality for all genders no discrimination in Serving the U.S.A.

Response by LCDR Rabbah Rona Matlow made Feb 3 at 2015 7:48 PM

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If women want "equal opportunity" then it should come with "equal responsibility"...

Response by MSgt Keith Hebert made Feb 3 at 2015 10:31 PM

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since women want to join combat arms then they need to sign up for selective service
all is fair

Response by PO3 Robert Morgan made Feb 3 at 2015 11:04 PM

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Why not. They want to serve and do. Most do well. Some milk the system but if they can serve they need to register.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 3 at 2015 11:29 PM

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I a bit torn on this but i would have to say no the should not under current army regs because it is my understanding the intent for the majority of drafted men is for them to serve in the infantry as women cannot serve in the infantry i think it would be allot of innessisary paperwork and effort and money spent where it does not need to be. Sorry if i offended and women vets that was not my intent

Response by SSG Bill M made Feb 3 at 2015 11:55 PM

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In a world where we are all about political correctness and equal rights, I only see it fit that females should also step up to the plate as men do should our country call upon them.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 4 at 2015 5:14 AM

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They want to be Infantry? Well let them get drafted! Ha even though we will never come down to another draft so the point would be mute. But yep equality for EVERYONE!!

Response by SPC Christopher Shanahan made Feb 4 at 2015 8:33 AM

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I think the females that have written on this post have said it best. If equality is to be reached then it should be in all categories.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 4 at 2015 8:44 AM

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Equal Rights and Opportunities for all. (The draft or Selective Service however will never happen due to the retaliation to those in office as it would be suicide for a politician.)

Response by SFC Dean Korst made Feb 4 at 2015 9:24 AM

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Why because they want to do the same things as a man does in the military for most part and have equal rights.

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Feb 4 at 2015 12:11 PM

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Absolutely

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 4 at 2015 12:11 PM

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I would definitely be in support of this. There's no reason why we shouldn't register.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 4 at 2015 1:10 PM

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I really don't see why anyone is expected to register. There won't be a draft. They are trying to get rid of us all. That being said, it should be all or none. Just my opinion.

Response by MSG Mitch Dowler made Feb 4 at 2015 1:16 PM

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Most women have NOT asked to serve in direct combat positions. Most women do not subscribe to the radical feminist agenda that supports serving in these positions either. Military service should remain voluntary for women even in time of war. American industry will need women to support the manufacturing to support a major war and an anchor for families in time of crisis.

Response by PV2 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 4 at 2015 1:24 PM

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Now that women are sometimes accepted in front line rolls. That upon turning 18 they should register with Selective Service.

Response by CPL Joshua Wood made Feb 4 at 2015 2:12 PM

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I do believe in equal rights but I couldn't stomach the thought of my sisters, wife, or hopefully future daughter ever being drafted to fight in what would probably be a bloody and deadly war. This is an issue that Im sure many females (whom I do respect) would call me sexist and thats fine, I will be a sexist if it meant the women in my life that I love never had to endure what I did in Afghanistan or worse. I know many women endure stuff in the military today but that is/was their own decision.
Truly sorry if this sounds offensive to anyone.

Response by SSG Sean Garcia made Feb 7 at 2015 2:38 AM

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My opinion, women want more equal rights to men.

Require them to sign up.

So if there is another draft they are selected under the same criteria as men.

Response by LtCol David Gran made Feb 9 at 2015 12:31 PM

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Absolutely. If we ever get to the point were we need to go beyond volunteers, we are probably in a pretty tough spot. Why would we not consider 50% of the population?

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2015 12:33 PM

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I think if we are willing to allow women to serve in combat roles then we should also require them to register for selective service. Equality and all that.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2015 12:36 PM

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YES!!!! If women are being used in the military and want equal rights then they should have to adhere to the same rules as the men!!!!

Response by CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2015 1:17 PM

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Yes. Yes, "they" should. (I use 'they' since I have already signed the dotted line.)

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2015 1:21 PM

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That is ridiculous. It's ok to pretend men & women are the same during political debate when it's all academic. It's ok that some women are better warriors than some men. It's not ok to tell every young woman she has to sign up for military service and that giving birth and raising strong children makes her less of a woman than someone who joins the military.

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Feb 9 at 2015 1:42 PM

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Yes, equal rights equal responsibilities, equal standards.

Response by SSG Todd Halverson made Feb 9 at 2015 1:43 PM

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I believe that women should have to register just like the men do. They are no less a citizen and deserve to be treated as an equal. Since most of the career fields are opening, so should having to register. Besides if they want to serve our Country, chances are they have already enlisted and do not need to wait for a draft, like we will ever have one again.

Response by 1SG William O. made Feb 9 at 2015 2:08 PM

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Because we are all about Equal Opportunity. If the boots fit...

Response by Cpl Caleb Humig made Feb 9 at 2015 2:10 PM

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My initial thought was "absolutely." They want to be treated the same as men, then so be it. With a bit more thought, no, I don't think so. I abhor the social engineering being forced upon our armed forces. I don't want my wife and/or daughters being subject to a draft. I'd happily reenlist or seek a commission in the infantry if it meant being able to keep the women I care about at home and relatively safe. I think I'm more in favor of conscription for all men than for drafting women. Besides, where's the exhaustive poll that says that the majority of women think they should be allowed in the infantry or drafted?

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2015 2:29 PM

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Equality is a good thing but women registering for Selective Service doesn't really stir up any feelings or opinions. I hope it never again comes to pass that a draft is necessary. I like that the military services are an all volunteer force. That way we only have those men and women who are qualified and truly
want to serve.

Response by PO3 Mark Streit made Feb 9 at 2015 2:50 PM

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Equal rights means equal responsibilities

Response by CPT Mike Sims made Feb 9 at 2015 2:51 PM

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Though I am not a fan of it, this is a process that will occur due to the fact that women have asked to be treated as equals and with the new rules allowing women in Infantry and Ranger training units, this will now be the next logical step. This is what happens when everyone who has never served continues preaching for women to serve in Combat Arms MOS's... they never considered the second or third order effects of their position. How many parents now are going to want to ensure their daughters sign up for Selective Service?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2015 3:18 PM

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Yes. Simply for equal opportunity. If there are women that want those coveted combat arms positions, and treated fairly in those, then require registration for selective service.

Response by SMSgt Bryan Raines made Feb 9 at 2015 3:26 PM

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They sure should. In today's environment of equality of the sexes, all citizens of the United Sates and its territories upon reaching the age of 18 should be required to register for the draft (selective service).

Response by PO1 Rodney Johnson made Feb 9 at 2015 3:28 PM

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equal pay equal rights equal jobs

Response by LCpl Chris Laemmle made Feb 9 at 2015 3:36 PM

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I believe that we should have a National Service where everyone, male and female, serves for a 2 year period in some capacity. It could be in a conservation corps, helping inner city kids, repairing our infrastructure, Job Corps, Peace Corps or the military. It is important in a democracy that everyone takes a part, and shares in the responsibility, of maintaining our freedom. The burdens of war and peace should not not be shouldered by the few but by all.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2015 3:42 PM

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Yes. No. Wait!
Yes - because we should have been this whole time.
No - since we moved to an all-volunteer service decades ago, *no one* should have to register and it seems like an unnecessary cost to maintain the Selective Service System and all its associated offices/personnel (yep, they do exist).
But wait! We could translate the system into a National Service System that incorporated AmeriCorps and the Peace Corps (and additional administrative support for each) and require all 18-25 year olds to complete a national service period in one of the three elements (PC, AC, or active military service) for 2 years + training time.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2015 4:01 PM

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Why not, we are in a world of gender equality and women should share their right serve and what service to do it in.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2015 4:08 PM

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Yes, women should be required to register for the Selective Service upon turning 18. If men and women want to be treated equally, they should both volunteer equally.

Response by MAJ David Vermillion made Feb 9 at 2015 4:09 PM

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Yes, this way it's fair for both parties.

Response by PFC Charles Rankin made Feb 9 at 2015 4:12 PM

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Equallity means the same for eveyone. End of story.

Response by SPC George Long made Feb 9 at 2015 4:20 PM

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Of course they should. If they can volunteer to serve then they all need to be in the eligibility data base....times have changed....time to catch up......Sgt Faith Hinkley....KIA IRAQ ....My wife's cousin.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2015 4:22 PM

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Men vote and enter the draft. Women vote. Each is worth 1 vote. Why does one gender pay for the privilege with blood?

Response by SSG John Bacon made Feb 9 at 2015 4:24 PM

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Why not? Women for decades have been asking for equal treatment so lets make it equal.

Response by SFC Jay Needham made Feb 9 at 2015 4:25 PM

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Women want and need to be treated equally. Woman are trying to making it into combat MOS's so why not have them register.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2015 4:40 PM

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Yes, if they expect the same treatment men get while in service, they should also be required to register. I thought this was already being done as a matter of fact? SO I am a little lost as to why this has never been brought up before hand?

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2015 5:37 PM

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In spite of agreeing with LTC Hillary Luton, I don't think this should be a requirement. This will just be another excuse for the Blame-America crowd to whine about not getting their way.

Response by SFC James Massey made Feb 9 at 2015 5:38 PM

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absolutely!, We are living in a non gender specific world these days. It should not be men or women at age 18, it should be all people must register at age 18 regardless of age. Equal opportunity across the board.

Response by MSG Floyd Williams made Feb 9 at 2015 5:59 PM

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Yes, I believe it is fair for women to register with the Selective Service, it shouldn't be an issue because women can now serve on the U.S. Navy Ships and women can be in combat roles and Ranger School.

Response by SPC Nicholas Cureton made Feb 9 at 2015 6:00 PM

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I think that since there is such a big push for equality that it be applied across the board

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2015 6:05 PM

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absolutely. if you look at other countries that require service, women are not excluded - all must "do their time" so to say.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2015 6:44 PM

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People seem to only want equality when it is beneficial. Pure equality means 100% equal the good and the bad. Selective service registration, shaved head during basic, equal pt standards everything.

Response by MAJ(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2015 7:03 PM

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Yes. Equality. It's a two-way street. If you want to be, earned the right, and proven to be equal, then you properly take on all the pros and cons.

There's a metaphor about eating cake that comes to mind.

Response by SGT Marika Waiters made Feb 9 at 2015 7:04 PM

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As the world changes, the "battlefield" is no longer just "over there." Every citizen should be required to serve their country, and should be trained in order to do so.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2015 7:31 PM

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They are equal in every aspect under the law. They should be required to register for the draft.

Response by SSG Bobby Gilbert made Feb 9 at 2015 7:35 PM

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Equality across the board. Selective service, training standards, AR670-1, barracks, latrine, everything. What, you gotta problem? Wa, now beat your face till I'm tired!!

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2015 7:35 PM

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With equal rights, comes equal responsibility.
One Military, One Standard.

Response by CPL Corey Aldridge made Feb 9 at 2015 7:45 PM

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Absolutely! In fact it would be discriminatory not to.

Response by CDR Michael Goldschmidt made Feb 9 at 2015 7:49 PM

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No one should have to register. We're all supposed to be in the Militia. If anyone has to register, however, then all should.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2015 7:52 PM

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Why not if we do have equal rights?

Response by SPC Neil Hood made Feb 9 at 2015 7:53 PM

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Over half of our population should not be exempt from civil/military service. When our county is in need of conscription both sons and daughters should stand up and answer that call.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2015 8:00 PM

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With the push for equal right I feel that it is only fair to say YES they should register. Fair is fair and if there is to be a truly level playing field between the genders there should be no difference to be drafted into the Armed Services.

Response by PO1 Jesse Armstrong made Feb 9 at 2015 8:04 PM

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If the Israeli's have there women serve in the military and women in Germany do it... what is the big difference? I think a tour in the military for anyone is a good thing.... it makes boys men and girls women...responsible people....better for our country.

Response by MCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2015 8:06 PM

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Equalitiy is equalitiy. Women are now allowed in almost every field a male is. Either require all to register or none to register.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2015 9:08 PM

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Since we spend hours upon hours learning about equal opportunity then we should apply those lessons across the board. Equal opportunity should mean that both genders have an equal opportunity for privileges, it should also mean that both genders share an load of the burden.

Response by SGT Greg Gold made Feb 9 at 2015 9:30 PM

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If women want to ascend to the highest ranks in the military they should also have to register for the draft, it's just that simple. Anything else is discrimination.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2015 9:44 PM

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Absolutely. I have heard a woman screaming about femanism, and equal rights. But never once have I heard a "feminist" demand equal responsibility.

Response by LCpl Rich Iseler made Feb 9 at 2015 9:59 PM

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Women want equal rights.

Response by CW5 Jim Steddum made Feb 9 at 2015 10:05 PM

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Unless the law changes and America accepts the concept of women drafted in to the military. If our representatives change the law, I am fully supportive.

Response by SPC Jeff Paulsen made Feb 9 at 2015 10:11 PM

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Everyone wants equal rights; so they shall have them! Don't discriminate.

Response by SPC Norma Wright made Feb 9 at 2015 10:49 PM

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I believe that Women should have to register with the Selective Service. We want to be treated as equals to our male counterparts in the service then we as women should be required to. Feminists fought to make it equal rights in all training aspects then its only fair.

Response by LTC Cecil V. Nance made Feb 9 at 2015 10:57 PM

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The selective service is a bogus political program. The solution is enact a draft. Everyone learns patriotism through service.

Response by PO2 Melissa Dawson made Feb 9 at 2015 11:12 PM

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Thirty Five plus years ago women demanded equality. At this time, I was a single parent and withstood many denigrating experiences. When my child was 8, I enlisted. Never complained as it was my decision. As women demand to portray themselves as being able to perform EVERY duty as a man, YES! she should have to register for the draft. I am one of three, of the four of us that served in uniform and to this day, still believe and act within the oath that I took.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2015 11:25 PM

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Does it surprise anyone that nearly everyone here is for females registering in the Selective Service? Everyone here was already a volunteer. I would raise a brow if anyone here, especially the females, weren't for it.

However our counterparts on the outside, who vastly outnumber us by 99%, may have something else to say.

Response by CPO Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2015 12:10 AM

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equality, they wanted it, give it to them.

Response by COL Ted Mc made Feb 10 at 2015 4:39 AM

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Fair is fair. The pointy end of a bullet doesn't care if it's travelling away from a man or a woman.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2015 5:24 AM

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Of course.

If we are going to open all jobs, or at least most jobs, up to women then they should have to register for the draft just like a young man does within 30 days of turning 18.

Have to be equal on all things to get equality.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2015 9:47 AM

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I agree with the concept that since women are equal to men, and beginning to push the combat arms movement, they should be required to register for Selective Service.

The only caveat to that is there should be an exemption to prevent a mother AND father from being drafted to serve simultaneously/at all. I think the decision should be made by the draft board on which one serves based on ability to impact the war effort (i.e. "hubby has a heart condition vs. healthy mother"), but I do not think that both parents should be forced to serve due to a potential adverse affect on the children in the event that one or both are killed or both come back with PTSD and/or other combat related injuries.
v/r,
CPT Butler

Response by CPO Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2015 10:42 AM

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Because women are allowed to serve and fill almost all roles as males.

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2015 10:57 AM

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I believe that equal treatment across the board means women serving in combat roles and being required to register for selective service. It is a two way street, you have to give to get.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2015 10:59 AM

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It's all about being equal....is it not?

Response by CPT Ed Stremel made Feb 10 at 2015 12:23 PM

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A lot of people seem to be answering "yes" because "equality". What about "no" because "equality" and because the draft is a detestable practice that a free nation ought to be above?

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2015 5:35 PM

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Did someone mention equal rights?

Response by PV2 Abbott Shaull made Feb 10 at 2015 6:56 PM

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YeJ they should enroll, if we are now allowing them in infantry and artillery MOSes, then the Armed Force should have the full talent pool as possible. Not saying I we would see are number if women drafted, but they want to be treated equally, well the here's where the pavement meets the road. With all due regard, to all those who object, I have daughter myself, and is she had to serve. It wouldn't bother me one bit, o would be proud of her. Just saying.

Response by PO1 Tom-Genie Hurst-Andrews made Feb 10 at 2015 9:20 PM

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Women now a days want to have equal rights so why not have them sign up.

Response by CSM Brian Woodall made Feb 10 at 2015 10:48 PM

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Our nation has outgrown the Selective Service. It is now a waste of tax-payer dollars. Simply stated -- we should do away with this ancient "service" for men and women.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Feb 11 at 2015 12:08 AM

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Why Not? If no one can give me a legitimate reason why not is generally my attitude. I think of the Female Israeli Soldiers. The Female Kurds the Ladies of the Peshmerga. I served with the Britts, Bodicea comes to mind.

Response by SFC Shane C. Wilson made Feb 11 at 2015 6:16 AM

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Absolutely,
For years women have asked to be treated fairly and equally. In today's world, I believe we're ready for women to be every bit as equal as men. Women are smart, intuitive, and fighters. Sure, some may think that women aren't as physically fit as some would like, but some of the men are the same way too in the Armed Forces; that's why the military is a team, not an individual. I have worked with women Soldiers and women police officers, every time they have performed exceptionally well, as matter of fact, sometimes they perform better than that of their male counterpart.

Response by MGySgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 11 at 2015 8:17 AM

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Equality means all the rights and duties of citizenship must be borne by each of us.

Response by PO1 Richard Cruikshank made Feb 11 at 2015 11:24 AM

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I don't believe it is fair that they can choose when to be equal. Either we are all always equal or we or not.

Response by LCpl Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 11 at 2015 12:09 PM

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so men will stop bitching about how they have to sign up for something that hasnt been used in decades and probably wont be used in the near future either.

Response by SSgt Jason Mitchell made Feb 11 at 2015 12:36 PM

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Should anyone be required to register? If we can't come up with enough volunteers to defend the nation, maybe we don't deserve to be a nation any more.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 11 at 2015 12:39 PM

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Why not...they can be in the military so why can't they sign up for selective service???

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 11 at 2015 1:20 PM

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If you want to be eligible for all combat arms MOS, then it would only be fair to have to register. You want full equality, this is a step in that direction.

Response by MSG John Wirts made Feb 11 at 2015 10:06 PM

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If women demand equal rights, they should have equal responsibility! If I as an 18 year old male have to register for the draft within so many days of my 18th birthday,or present a compelling reason for not doing so. If we are to treat females the same as males they should meet the same standard as males to register for the draft or face prosecution for failure to do so. I did not register until I was 20 1/2 years old, I had to explain I did not register before then because I was in the active Army in Germany and was not allowed to register until I separated from AD and then registered and was classified 4A, physically qualified but ineligible for draft because I had already serves and was in the IRR. If women truly want to be "Equal" they must subject themselves to the draft AS ALL MALES ARE REQUIRED TO DO ON THEIR 18TH BIRTHDAY!

Response by Sgt Adam Jennings made Feb 12 at 2015 6:04 AM

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They want equality then they should have total equality.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 12 at 2015 12:48 PM

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If you believe that this should be brought to the attention of our government, please sign the following petition:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-selective-service-system-gender-blind/T1TWVb9y

Make the Selective Service System Gender-blind | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government

As a nation we have become more aware and appreciative of the many contributions made by Americans of all races, creeds and genders, to America and her defense.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 12 at 2015 4:16 PM

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The way I see it if we are going to treat women as equals (which I firmly support) then this responsibility should apply to all. In for a penny, in for a pound...

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2015 9:02 PM

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Yes.
Did you know that when Korea began congress talked about a draft for female nurses? Ended up just drafting males (womp womp, they had just allowed men into nursing ranks).
I think that not having women register sells us short.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2015 9:12 PM

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of course, that is true equal opportunity... men and women are equal to occupy the same jobs, we all are entitled and obligated to serve our country and register for the selective service.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 18 at 2015 2:58 PM

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Selective service should be disbanded. It would be stupid for women to be drafted because it would be so easy to dodge the draft(ie what is the most common thing that keeps active duty women from doing their job).

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 18 at 2015 5:05 PM

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I agree, we are entering a era in our military where women are seeing more and more active roles, why would be only holding the men accountable? I mean women are now eligible for active combat roles, special programs, and even submarine duty. I honestly believe keeping up with the times this needs to happen.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 22 at 2015 9:37 PM

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Today, women demand equality, but many of them don't want to put all the work in that men do. If men and women are going to be equal, and women are also going to serve in all combat arms position like female rights reps are pushing for, they should also have to register for selective service.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 22 at 2015 9:52 PM

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Yes, they should. I think it goes right along with those pesky second and third order of effects. They want to be treated equal and want to be serving in combat positions. Why not make it a requirement to register to serve same as men.

Response by SGT Jennifer Wallace made Feb 25 at 2015 12:09 PM

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Yes they should. Woman want to play equal rights they should have to sign up.

Response by PO3 Amanda Crippes (Powell) made Mar 5 at 2015 5:47 PM

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I think with all the talk of wanting equal rights we should pull equal weight. Unless anyone has a disqualifying issue, everyone should sign up. Women are starting to become active in all parts and branches and should go through the same process men do.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 5 at 2015 5:51 PM

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I agree with LTC Luton.

Response by SGT Tyler G. made Mar 5 at 2015 8:55 PM

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As long as the selective service remains a thing, then yes. However I don't believe in the concept of the selective service in the first place; the military should now and always be an all volunteer force. The government has no right to tell a citizen they have to risk their life.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 5 at 2015 9:50 PM

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Yes….. I think everybody should be treated the same. Equal.

Response by MSgt Charles Johnson made Mar 5 at 2015 11:29 PM

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Yes, everyone should serve. At least 4 years of service.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 5 at 2015 11:41 PM

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Yes, equality can't be selective (no pun intended).

Response by CW2 Eric Scott made Mar 5 at 2015 11:46 PM

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Yep. Not sure why this hasn't changed already.

Response by GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad made Mar 6 at 2015 10:35 AM

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Why shouldn't they be???

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 6 at 2015 12:06 PM

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Since the Army has made it to where women can do jobs that once were not open to them, I say why not. Since everything in the military is going towards a more equal military for both men and women, then they should have to sign up for Selective Service.

Response by Cpl Mark McMiller made Mar 6 at 2015 12:31 PM

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Yes.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 6 at 2015 10:44 PM

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Why not? They want to make it all inclusive. Lets go all the way.

Response by PO2 David Hagwood made Mar 6 at 2015 10:46 PM

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We're all equal, right? Yes, they should be required to register.

Response by CPT Chris Loomis made Mar 7 at 2015 11:01 AM

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Yes.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 7 at 2015 10:25 PM

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Yes, as mentioned a few times below, the purpose of the registration is to quickly mobilize a large number of troops, typically combat arms. However, having an accurate number of service "available" within easy access would help strategic planning.
Or declare the end to selective service, because any war that would require that kind of call up would probably be over very quick and anyone left would probably be more concerned over glittering in the dark than answering the draft call.

Response by PO1 Tom-Genie Hurst-Andrews made Mar 11 at 2015 6:48 PM

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I believe ALL CONGRESSIONAL and PRESIDENTAL TYPES should have served before being in their positions in WASHINGTON and that goes for their children including the daughters signing up.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2015 6:57 PM

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For the 9% no's, women have fought for equal rights for decades. If our country is in a situation desperate enough to require a draft, of course women should be available to be drafted as well.

Response by A1C Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2015 7:04 PM

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We wanted equal rights! That's just one step closer. It may not be the one people want, or even one anybody would fight to get, but equal is equal. If I want to have the same opportunities, then I need to accept the same responsibilities, even if they might be less than pretty.

Response by CW3 Craig Linghor made Mar 11 at 2015 7:53 PM

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Yes. Equality.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 12 at 2015 4:05 PM

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In a world when women are considered as equal as men and have the same rights as men... as a father of two daughters I do not see or find a reason why women should not be required to register with the selective service upon turning 18. Registration of women shows the kind of equality that we as Americans stand for.

Response by SGT Corey Franks made Mar 12 at 2015 4:17 PM

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Why do we even have this still. In case a draft needs to happen? I mean, all hell will literally have to break lose before they use this again right?

Response by SFC Catherine Heidrich made Mar 13 at 2015 3:59 PM

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I believe since men and women want to be equal in every way this is just one more way.

Response by GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad made Mar 20 at 2015 2:37 PM

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Yep, sounds EQUAL to me!

Response by PO3 Steven Sherrill made Mar 20 at 2015 2:49 PM

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Women rightfully wish to be treated as equals with men. This can never happen when there are two sets of standards. Hold each PERSON accountable to the same set of standards, give equal treatment, and you are on the way to setting up that equality.

Yes women should register for the selective service. It is an outdated concept, but it is still required so yes men and women should both register with selective service.

Response by SSgt June Worden made Mar 20 at 2015 4:39 PM

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Equal pay, equal work, equal registration with the selective service. Fair is fair!

Response by Cpl Terry Hutchinson made Mar 20 at 2015 6:20 PM

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Women want to be treated as equals, then make them do all the EXACT same things we have to.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 20 at 2015 6:54 PM

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Especially now in today's military women are finding themselves in the direct line of enemy fire. Some by choice others not. Ranger all now is trying to allow women to compete for the tab. Yes they should have to register since they are now getting exactly what they wanted all along. ... equal rights

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 23 at 2015 5:18 PM

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I'm all for pure equal rights across the board . . .that means the bad and the good. Like the massive court bias towards women when it comes to property and parental rights, that needs to be equaled out just as badly as the wage gap.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 25 at 2015 12:04 PM

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that is a really good question honestly I don't know how I'm going to answer that

Response by CPO Greg Frazho made Mar 25 at 2015 3:04 PM

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Unquestionably. If you want equal opportunity, pay your admission fee like everybody else.

Response by PO3 Rod Arnold made Mar 26 at 2015 8:36 PM

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I'm a firm believer in military training. I would like to see everyone graduating from H S go into the service for at least two years.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2015 4:17 PM

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With the current trend and push towards gender equity, women should absolutely be required to register.

Response by SSG Eric Trace made Jul 3 at 2015 1:10 AM

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Yes, fair and equal treatment right.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 9 at 2015 9:32 PM

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Yes. Why is this even a discussion we should've been doing this for the last 40 years!! I recently was told by a dependent spouse (very sweet lady who I typically respect) that she didn't want her daughter to have to register.
Your sons have to and so should your daughter. I have a son and of course he will register and should God bless me with a daughter I would hope by then she would have the same requirement.

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Sep 9 at 2015 9:33 PM

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Why not. Service builds character

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 9 at 2015 9:44 PM

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I mean they always complain about EO lol. If they want to be equal they should be allowed to be drafted but, it depends on who you ask.

Response by PFC Aaron Knapp made Oct 18 at 2015 10:07 PM

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https://www.sss.gov/Registration/Women-And-Draft

Response by CPT Alan W. made Oct 18 at 2015 10:29 PM

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Everyone should be required to register. I crossed a picket line in 1980 when they brought back Selective Service. I want to say it was middle of the summer, I had to go a week or two into it based on the year I was born (1961).

Response by MSG John Wirts made Oct 23 at 2015 2:14 AM

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I say yes, since the Feminists DEMAND "equality", forced Title 10 down the throat of the schools and youth sports organizations. YES! We also need to level the plying field in another couple of areas. When I was still in a drilling unit, our mobilization mission was to reopen Ft Ord as a basic training base, so our summer camps were spent assisting active duty basic training units. I heard from our drill sergeants, that some female basic trainees would conspire to set up an unpopular drill sergeant and have him caught having sex with a trainee. The sergeant would be busted and given a less then honorable discharge. I never heard of any trainee ever discharged for her misconduct. In civilian life one of my college professors was explaining the disparity of the law. If a man is standing naked in front of a window in his house, and a woman walks by and sees him and stares, who get charged with what crime? Answer the man is charged with lewd conduct and exhibitionism. If the situation is reversed and a naked woman is standing in her house front of her window, and a man walks by and sees her and stares, who is charged with what? the man is charged with being a peeping tom. Unless the charge falls on the exhibitionist regardless of sex, or the peeper regardless of sex., the law is discriminating by sex, the very thing the feminists say they oppose, and want to eradicate.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Oct 24 at 2015 7:37 AM

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If there is a draft, I don't want Combat Arms to be 50-50 male-female.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 31 at 2015 8:44 PM

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I think all males and females should register. I feel that children are losing alot of the structure in families due to two parent homes, and issues with dicipline in the home. i.e. punishing kids= go to jail; then blame the parents for not diciplining them. I think when you turn 18 you should complete basic training and AIT with the option of staying in the military or going back to civilian life. We need the ability to properly defend our country and teach the next generation how to maintain the standard.

Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Oct 31 at 2015 11:20 PM

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Fair is Fair

Response by SFC Richard Haugh made Nov 1 at 2015 1:55 AM

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It is beyond time to change the rules to "All Americans" turning 18 are required to register with the Selective Service....

Response by SFC Douglas Duckett made Nov 2 at 2015 9:23 AM

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It is not just about filling in the ranks if the situation ever gets that bad. It is not just about equality of service. It is about men having their opportunities limited if they fail to register, while women do not. A young man who fails to register with Selective Service may be ineligible for opportunities that may be important to his future. He must register to be eligible for federal student financial aid, state-funded student financial aid in many states, most federal employment, some state employment, security clearance for contractors, job training under the Workforce Investment Act, and U.S. citizenship for immigrant men.

Female registration should have been initiated when the mandated male registration. It is only "fair" for the workforce.

If a man fails to register, or provides Selective Service with evidence that he is exempt from the registration requirement, after receiving Selective Service reminder and/or compliance mailings, his name is referred to the Department of Justice for possible investigation and prosecution for his failure to register as required by the Act. For clarification, if a man is exempt from registering with the Selective Service System, his name is not forwarded to the Department of Justice. The federal law stipulates that names are to be submitted to the Department of Justice annually.

https://www.sss.gov/Registration/Why-Register/Benefits-and-Penalties

Response by SFC John Beatty made Nov 2 at 2015 3:54 PM

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Never going to happen, but sure. The military will be disbanded first.

Response by LCDR Rabbah Rona Matlow made Nov 2 at 2015 7:59 PM

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Absolutely

Response by TSgt Kenneth Ellis made Nov 2 at 2015 9:04 PM

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That's what happens when a group of polititions push for equality in everything. I don't know if woman have been limited in there promotions because they were restriction from combat duty. I could see why they would want these assignments to open up. But the majority of 18 year old women, I don't think they even realize that what has happend. That they will have to register for the draft.

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Nov 3 at 2015 4:38 PM

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Here's an analogy: this is a cake shop, and we sell cakes, not just icing or just decorations; you will take the entire cake.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 3 at 2015 6:25 PM

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It shouldn't be gender base. It should be mandatory 4 yrs active duty for all Permanent Resident /US Citizens. Everyone that's able body should serve.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 3 at 2015 6:27 PM

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yes. it would be a step in the direction of equality.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 4 at 2015 3:27 PM

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Absolutely!! They are citizens just like anyone else. I am sure most females will also agree with me that they don't want to be left out. Besides, they have proven to be a big part of our military.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 4 at 2015 4:55 PM

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Old post, but first time seeing it and wanted to respond.

Personally I think the selective service system is obsolete and should be entirely removed. We have a strong entirely volunteer force who are more than capable and willing to fulfill the missions asked of us. I think most of us are aware how things were with those that were drafted. Most didn't want to be there, and many were intentionally being screw ups so they could be forced out and return to their civilian lives.

With this being said, if this system is kept in place, then yes; women should be required to register for it. They want equal rights, give them equal rights. Period. Equal means equal in all aspects, not the ones they "choose" to be equal in.

Response by PO2 Peter Klein made Nov 5 at 2015 10:29 PM

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All able bodied Americans should register with the Selective Service at age 18. There should also be compulsory service. It could be military, Teach America, Job Corps, or something similar.
It would teach some how to work. It would teach teamwork and some many other things. I think it would cut unemployment because more youngsters would have some skills, training and work experience.

Response by SFC Eric Williams made Nov 9 at 2015 9:57 PM

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Without Question....

Response by SCPO Larry Payne made Nov 19 at 2015 12:53 AM

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Yes, equal opportunity means equality across the board.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 19 at 2015 1:23 PM

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The American Society is starting to come to terms with women serving in the Military as a whole. Many women today are just as able to perform many duties contributed to a full range of jobs within the military including some of those within combat specialties. Where we will have difficulty is many male personnel not letting go of over protective nature of women over men.

Response by SFC Ernest Thurston made Nov 28 at 2015 12:54 AM

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Sure, they have fought for equal rights to be included in the volunteer force, why shouldn't they be subject to the draft. If they want their cake they should eat it too.

Response by 1SG Tom Pirrone made Dec 4 at 2015 8:04 AM

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Yes they should! After reading most of the post on this discussion, Females in, or that have served in the military have no issue with females registering. Where you’re going to see possible push back will be from those that believe they are privileged and have no idea what the military culture is all about. I salute all those that currently serve or have served in the past in any capacity.

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 5 at 2015 8:51 PM

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Of course. And this is not any punishment but common sense. They have the right to defend the country the way they want it - not just the way men want them to.

Response by MSG Rick Shannon made Dec 8 at 2015 6:55 AM

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As mentioned previously by other posters, be careful of what you ask for. If women want the same rights as males, job, pay, etc, then they should be treated no different in all arenas. They should register just like anyone else and take whatever is given to them. This is a can of worms question since there are many double standards when it comes to women. Just come out with some regs to make it all the same and I would have no issue with it at all. One standard, on Soldier, one fight.

Response by LCpl Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 8 at 2015 4:09 PM

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sure.\, why not. If they are going to be part of combat arms it's critical they be included for the manpower stats.

Response by Sgt Jamie Greenhalgh made Jan 12 at 2016 1:41 PM

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I think everyone should have to serve in the military or some sort of civil service for two years.

Response by LTC Paul Labrador made Jan 12 at 2016 1:45 PM

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If we are going to open combat arms to them, then Yes. The sole purpose of Selective Service is to give a mechanism to bring in a large amount of combat troops in the event of a full scale war.

Response by CPO Randy Francis made Jan 12 at 2016 2:38 PM

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As a male born after 1959 (missed it by one year) everytime I apply for a government job and even though I'm a veteran I still have check the box that I registered for the draft back in 1978. Recently, when my security clearance came up for review, I even had to include my Selective Service # on my SF85. No woman has ever had to do that and I find it in violation of the equal protection clause. They, as a gender, want to be able serve in combat units and reap the career benefits from that so they, as a gender, need to step up to the plate and register for selective service and encounter the same consequences for not foing

Response by MSgt Billy McDonough made Jan 12 at 2016 3:13 PM

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Yes, equal all the way please!

Response by SGT Joe Sabedra made Jan 12 at 2016 6:58 PM

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That would be awesome.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 12 at 2016 9:07 PM

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My question is, why? The Selective Service is an outdated and pointless system and doesn't change a thing in regards to the real situation. Sure, sign them up. But here's the thing, most of the males 18 to 24 these days aren't even signed up. Go for the real issues like fitness standards in the military.

Response by SFC James Barnes made Jan 12 at 2016 10:05 PM

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I believe that to make things equal it must be equal all the way. same standards and same mandatory requirements.

Response by SSgt Timothy Skondin made Jan 13 at 2016 8:20 AM

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Equality, it isn't just applied when it's convenient or avoided when it's an inconvenience.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 13 at 2016 12:47 PM

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I absolutely believe women should have to. If we want to be treated as equals, we need to start acting like we are . We should not pick and choose where we want to be treated as equals.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 13 at 2016 6:25 PM

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I say yes; equality doesn't mean getting all of the benefits and receiving none of the consequences. You cannot say you have the right to do something without carrying any of the obligation.