Should we re-organize the bill of Rights?

PFC Donnie Harold Harris — Sun, 04 Jul 2021 11:43:10 -0400

We use to hand wash our clothes in the snake infested creeks. Now we use washing machines. Should not our Understand of our right also need a update. Or shall we continue to do as our 6Th generation granddads did?

Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Jul 4 at 2021 12:14 PM

LTC Jason Mackay — Sun, 04 Jul 2021 12:14:48 -0400

I'm curious what you envision with this "re-organization". What exactly do you propose? Amending the constitution is difficult on purpose. The consequence is once you open it up, you are opening it up to everything that is drifting around out there.

Re-organization hintsnthat nothing would change, just how it is organized and prioritized. Sounds like rearranging the dish cabinet in the kitchen. Same dishes, different spots.

I look at it this way: we fought off a super power with citizen soldiers (i.e. The militia) armed with what ever was over our hearth. We had Articles of Confederation that did not work. Forward to 1787, 12 years after we fought for our independence, the first 10 things we extended special consideration and protection to citizens forming our bill of rights.

Our constitution, our freedom, our way of life are the envy of the world explaining the migration crunch and the object of ire by oppressors and autocratic systems across the globe inspiring subversion, rhetoric, gray area attacks, and out right terrorist attacks. They have abandoned outright opposition, rather subverting our people via seams in our society.

Some would argue that some of the elements are no longer needed, like quartering troops in our homes. Ironic Point of interest: the U.K. Quartered US troops in WWII. Obsolete? No. I'd say effective.

Our protections for individual citizens like freedom of speech free press, right to bear arms, speedy trial, search and seizure, limitation of the reach of the federal government etc are the envy of most of the world. Not in the bill of rights, but in the constitution and Title 10 are limits of the use of our armed forces on our own people. Foreign concept in most of the world where their Army is used as a policing force internally. As is the civilian command of the armed forces as opposed To the "benevolent" military ruling junta or the "President for life" General who come out on top in the latest coup. It was a bloodless coup....all smotherings.

Make no mistake, we have our problems, but we enjoy rule of law, safety, and security like few others.

Response by SFC Kelly Fuerhoff made Jul 4 at 2021 12:24 PM

SFC Kelly Fuerhoff — Sun, 04 Jul 2021 12:24:41 -0400

Do you mean amend the amendments? Reorganizing sounds like changing the order...

The Constitution was built to be amended. However, I think we have enough SCOTUS interpretations in cases have allowed them to remain current. For the most part.

Response by SPC Travis Grizzard made Jul 4 at 2021 2:16 PM

SPC Travis Grizzard — Sun, 04 Jul 2021 14:16:06 -0400

Whether in a river, or with a washing machine, we still use water, so, no.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 4 at 2021 2:50 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 04 Jul 2021 14:50:01 -0400

We have made amendments over the years. Some of them good, some of them are the 16th and 17th.

Response by MSG Stan Hutchison made Jul 4 at 2021 3:08 PM

MSG Stan Hutchison — Sun, 04 Jul 2021 15:08:47 -0400

One must be cautious in espousing such an idea. Keep in mind it was very difficult to complete our first Constitution, with a lot, a LOT of compromise. Does anyone believe we could possibly get such compromise today? I don't.

Response by SPC Jesse Davis made Jul 4 at 2021 4:30 PM

SPC Jesse Davis — Sun, 04 Jul 2021 16:30:30 -0400

Given the current political climate, I am reluctant to open this up to what some people are eager to take away.