Should we have the military on our border to secure it?

SSgt Alex Robinson — Wed, 18 Nov 2015 22:07:58 -0500

http://news.yahoo.com/honduras-arrests-five-syrians-headed-us-stolen-passports-204536480.html

Response by SGT Jerrold Pesz made Nov 18 at 2015 10:18 PM

SGT Jerrold Pesz — Wed, 18 Nov 2015 22:18:11 -0500

Yes.

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Nov 18 at 2015 10:40 PM

Capt Seid Waddell — Wed, 18 Nov 2015 22:40:16 -0500

The most important thing is for our leadership to WANT to control the border. Given the determination to control the border, the execution would be very straightforward.

For whatever reason, this administration chooses NOT to control the border, and actively prosecutes those States that attempt to do so themselves.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 18 at 2015 11:02 PM

SCPO Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 18 Nov 2015 23:02:58 -0500

That is the statutory job of INS and ICE. They need an infusion of money from Congress, that it would completely waste, otherwise, so that the Border Patrol can be multiplied in size by five times. And we need not wait on "The Hair" to build a wall. The Feds can and should build it now. With the extra manpower, build watchtowers literally every mile or so. Install the most advanced electronic listening devices and cameras. Most important of all, make it impenetrable, insurmountable, and completely idiot-proof.

Response by PVT Robert Gresham made Nov 19 at 2015 1:25 AM

PVT Robert Gresham — Thu, 19 Nov 2015 01:25:21 -0500

SSgt Alex Robinson No, the laws are clear. The Insurrection Act specifies the circumstances under which the president may convene the armed forces to suppress an insurrection against any state or the federal government. Furthermore, where an individual state is concerned, consent of the governor must be obtained prior to the deployment of troops. The Posse Comitatus Act provides penalties for unlawful troop deployments.

Even under DoD Directive 3025.18: Defense Support of Civil Authorities (DSCA) of 2014, it is made clear that the only "in extraordinary emergency circumstances where prior authorization by the President is impossible and duly constituted local authorities are unable to control the situation, to engage temporarily in activities that are necessary to quell large-scale, unexpected civil disturbances because:
(1) Such activities are necessary to prevent significant loss of life or wanton destruction of property and are necessary to restore governmental function and public order; or,
(2) When duly constituted Federal, State, or local authorities are unable or decline to provide adequate protection for Federal property or Federal governmental functions. Federal action, including the use of Federal military forces, is authorized when necessary to protect the Federal property or functions." Military standing guard duty on the border does not satisfy any of these requirements.

The solution is to actually hire enough United States Border Patrol Officers to do the job that needs to be done. And a big wall might not be the worst idea. (Sorry, had to throw that in.)

Response by SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL made Nov 19 at 2015 7:39 AM

SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL — Thu, 19 Nov 2015 07:39:22 -0500

SSgt Alex Robinson I would say yes, the National Gaurd of the border states in in conjunction with Border Patrol should do security on the border.