Should we have a government-issued national Veterans ID card?

SSgt Bill Trevor — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 11:23:59 -0500

For those of us not in the VA system nor retired, shouldn't there be a national Veterans ID card issued by the government? I can add it to my license but retailers don't always accept it (when Veteran promotions are offered). I think all who served honorably deserve such a card and any non-military related benefits given to those who have them (local municipality tax breaks, retailer discounts, etc). Who's with me? - PS not looking for same "privileges" or benefits that retirees have earned!

--EDIT-- after much feedback and great discussion it looks like the drivers license designation might suffice. The rest might just be a national education that this designation means you are a Veteran who served honorably. Not everyone is aware of that. As for the DD214, too much Personally Identifiable Info on it so there should be another way and I think the drivers license designation make sense! Cheers to all who commented and Happy Holidays! - Semper Fi, Bill

Response by SFC George Smith made Dec 19 at 2016 11:30 AM

SFC George Smith — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 11:30:56 -0500

Never thought of it in that aspect...
all of the family has military Retired ID and some Have DAV cards....
This is one that could be addressed to The Congress Critters and the DOD VA...

Response by TSgt David L. made Dec 19 at 2016 11:57 AM

TSgt David L. — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 11:57:38 -0500

I think it would be a good idea. Even though I am retired I think y'all should have a card of some type you could use for PX/BX/NX privileges or at Home Depot and other places that offer a discount to Vets. Seems like it's the least we can do for folks who have sworn an oath.

Response by MSgt Stephen Council made Dec 19 at 2016 12:15 PM

MSgt Stephen Council — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 12:15:46 -0500

SSgt Bill Trevor I am a retired SNCO and a disabled veteran. The VA issues ID cards to all veterans who present themselves for service. These cards do not entitle veterans to discounts, base access or any shopping privileges. I am okay with this arrangement.

Response by SGT Ben Keen made Dec 19 at 2016 12:26 PM

SGT Ben Keen — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 12:26:01 -0500

I think we are already seeing a move to this type of system. With sites like GOX.com and others that vet using records from the DoD, more and more Veterans who are without an ID card are finding themselves able to do things just like what you mention.

Response by Cpl Jeff N. made Dec 19 at 2016 12:37 PM

Cpl Jeff N. — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 12:37:30 -0500

I've never had one. I've been out for over 30 years and haven't needed it. Not sure we need to spend money on another government ID card.

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Dec 19 at 2016 12:44 PM

SGM Erik Marquez — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 12:44:35 -0500

"I think all who served honorably deserve such a card and any privileges given to those who have them (PX, retailer discounts, etc). Who's with me?"
Privileges?
The world, the US, the PX OWES me (you, us) nothing for our service.
As part of my contract and service obligation served I EARNED some benefits for my service.
But that is much differnt than rights and "privileges" owed me.... which IMHO, do not exist.
So what earned benefits does a no longer serving non medically retired SGT vet with 8 years of good service deprived of without your proposed "national Veterans ID card " ?

10% at Denny's ?
Wait that's not a benefit..not a right, not a privilege it is just an offer of thanks by a private company and it is offered to a small demographic if that person can show cause.. You think the government should design, fund, run a program so you can insure everyone that ever served can get thier Denny's discount?

So again, what is the need? what are you being denied and why do you propose the need for a National Vet ID card? What does this card bring to you that you can not already prove as needed with existing documentation the service component provided you at seperation?

Response by LTC John Shaw made Dec 19 at 2016 1:04 PM

LTC John Shaw — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:04:36 -0500

SSgt Bill Trevor I agree completely. There are 100,000s of veterans who should have a way of providing veteran status or acceptance that a VA id is a sufficient identification.
Many veterans, just like my brother, who served for 4 years active and 8 years in the Reserve and have no way to show their federal service but the DD214 which many organizations do not accept to show proof of prior service.

Response by SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 19 at 2016 1:25 PM

SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:25:05 -0500

I can't say I'm a fan of this idea, it'd just be one more piece of plastic to carry around in my wallet.

Response by Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen made Dec 19 at 2016 1:29 PM

Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:29:45 -0500

Yes, I think that something that identifies a vet would be a good idea. Case in point, many years ago the new attraction I worked for wanted to offer discounts for vets on Veterans Day. The discussion on how cashiers could identify a vet was very interesting. We are in a military town, so everyone understood the concept of a military ID, but how do you identify someone who served but didn't retire? I mentioned the DD 214 but realistically how many vets carry that around with them? We ended up making the promotion for active duty and retirees because that was the only group that could easily provide identification when purchasing tickets. Of course that left out a lot of potential customers, but was the most efficient way to keep the lines at ticket sales moving.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 19 at 2016 3:18 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 15:18:57 -0500

SSgt Bill Trevor A Veteran ID for those not in the VA system is tentatively scheduled for release in 2017.

http://www.blogs.va.gov/VAntage/26568/veteran-id-cards-options/

Veteran ID Cards: What your options are now and in the future - VAntage Point

Veterans who would like an identification card that displays their military service have several options available to them now.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 19 at 2016 5:04 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 17:04:56 -0500

I am. I grew up with a dependents card, had my own the whole time I was in (nearly 13 years). Now, no privileges. Getting a VA loan was tough. Cannot go on base for *anything*. Not that I need to go there for anything. The only time it would have been nice is when I needed a new white waist belt for my Blues last month. Still, I have friends who have base access so they picked one up for me.

Response by MSgt James Mullis made Dec 19 at 2016 6:07 PM

MSgt James Mullis — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 18:07:05 -0500

A veteran ID Card...maybe but un-earned privileges...no way. If you want to be able to get on base and use the BX and Commissary, stay on active duty for 20 or more years like the rest of us.

Response by SSG Mark Franzen made Dec 19 at 2016 7:38 PM

SSG Mark Franzen — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 19:38:07 -0500

Yes I think it would be a Good thing to show people that you served and also to be able to get a discount because there many place that only recognize a active military Id or a retired I spent 16.5 years and Got nothing And still with time spend should still be in titled to use the Commissary and the Exchange. That My Feeling on it.
SSG MARK FRANZEN
US ARMY VET

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 19 at 2016 8:18 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:18:41 -0500

Absolutely....and I think the PX system is going to allow shopping on line starting the new year.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Dec 19 at 2016 8:21 PM

CPT Jack Durish — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:21:24 -0500

I agree

Response by SGT John Wesley made Dec 19 at 2016 11:36 PM

SGT John Wesley — Mon, 19 Dec 2016 23:36:58 -0500

I carry my VA card, but a wallet size DD214? Might help some vets.

Response by 1stSgt Eugene Harless made Dec 20 at 2016 2:58 AM

1stSgt Eugene Harless — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 02:58:09 -0500

The PX and Commissary are a definite no-go, in my opinion. Too much of a strain. I don't see where a Veteran's ID card would, in reality, be used more than a DD214 for job applications, etc. In reality the only places it would come in handy would be for Veteran's Discounts at Stores and Resturants, if applicable. Many places have limited times the give discounts, and often they simply take your word.
An administrative burden, in my opinion.

Response by A1C Cesar Baquerizo made Dec 20 at 2016 6:51 AM

A1C Cesar Baquerizo — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 06:51:44 -0500

No. As someone else has said, what privileges are we entitled to? More importantly, programs like this are subject to abuse because they are not well thought out and the infrastructure to support it does not exist. Case in point, the "Veteran" printed on your license. I know several people that did not even make it through basic, but have taken their DD214 to the the DMV and received a shiny new license with "Veteran" on it. Now they go to Lowes and get their 10% discount, or Denny's free meal on Veterans Day. It's ridiculous, embarrassing and crooked as far as I'm concerned. BTW - PX/BX access is not authorized to non-retired veterans.

Response by SSG Brian MacBain made Dec 20 at 2016 6:59 AM

SSG Brian MacBain — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 06:59:55 -0500

To those who have done 20+ years honorably has a retired Blue (at least for the Army it is) Id card that gives you the privilege to enter a military base and shop at the PX/BX/NEX. I am assuming that goes the same for medically retired as well. However, for the service members that decides to leave the service with less then 20yrs, no I do not think they should get that "privilege" to use the PX/BX/NEX. So SSgt Bill Trevor we already do have a government-issued VA ID card. Now this brings into question for me, do service members receive a ID card if they get out before 20yrs? If not, then I do see there should be a gov't id vet card.

Response by SSG Patrick Michael made Dec 20 at 2016 7:11 AM

SSG Patrick Michael — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 07:11:34 -0500

Check with your county or local Veterans Service Office, if you have one. Ours issues an ID card to veterans. I've been in the VA system for a few years now, but have yet to obtain an official VA card.

Response by SGT Jason Hartnett made Dec 20 at 2016 7:14 AM

SGT Jason Hartnett — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 07:14:20 -0500

I am with you, but only if they have seen combat or have over 10yrs. It is only fair for the other soldiers that have put their time in.

Response by FN Charlie Spivey made Dec 20 at 2016 7:14 AM

FN Charlie Spivey — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 07:14:44 -0500

You can get an ID through the VA without being a patient. It will not give you Commissary / Exchange priviledges. You have to be retired or 100% Service Connected ( you can get a DoD Uniformed Services I.D. with those priviledges ). There are places that have accpeted my VFW membership card.

Response by SSG John Kangas made Dec 20 at 2016 7:15 AM

SSG John Kangas — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 07:15:11 -0500

If you have not retired or on active duty you shouldn't have access to any military pix, class six etc if you want those benefits retire or stay on active duty
Retired SSG

Response by GySgt Joseph Jay Johnston made Dec 20 at 2016 7:26 AM

GySgt Joseph Jay Johnston — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 07:26:43 -0500

No, If you want those Benefits u should have done 20 or more,Go to the VA and you will get an picture I.D. showing branch of service and other info.....

Response by LTC Lewis Cox made Dec 20 at 2016 7:27 AM

LTC Lewis Cox — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 07:27:09 -0500

Sounds like a very solid idea to me!

Response by SSgt Cliff Bowers made Dec 20 at 2016 7:28 AM

SSgt Cliff Bowers — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 07:28:44 -0500

ID?, yes. Access to exchange and other base privileges?, no. That is one of the benefits being Active or Retiring earns you. If civilian business wants to honor service by providing discounts to veterans that is one thing. There are few benefits received from spending 20+ years on Active/Reserve service. If every person who served honorably had access to those privileges it would heavily overburden the system, it is unsustainable. I suggest you Retire if you want that benefit.

Response by SA Kenneth R. Spurgeon made Dec 20 at 2016 7:38 AM

SA Kenneth R. Spurgeon — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 07:38:12 -0500

I agree with that. There should be a ID card issued to you when you are discharged or retire from the service.

Response by SPC Negel Mohammed made Dec 20 at 2016 7:47 AM

SPC Negel Mohammed — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 07:47:59 -0500

Any form gratitude would be great,
after all they did serve.

Response by SSG(P) Robert Hilton made Dec 20 at 2016 7:52 AM

SSG(P) Robert Hilton — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 07:52:23 -0500

Not a bad idea. But let me expound on that, with the PX and Commissary are not getting a lot of business. The $1.3 Billion the Commissary receives maybe cut or lessened with the new administration. The powers that be will have to look at that and figure out how they can get more authorized shoppers into the PX and Commissary. Maybe lowering the DAV rules to allow 80% or 50% disabled vet's to utilize the some of the benefits. But I see division I some responses between retired and not retired. The country is divided enough, lets appreciate everyone's point of view. We all served under one flag. We are brother's and sister's in arms. We raised our hand and served for all American's. "For evil to succeed, all it needs is for good men to do nothing", MLK

Response by SGT James Colwell made Dec 20 at 2016 8:09 AM

SGT James Colwell — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 08:09:19 -0500

As a vet who fits into the category described, I think it is a waste of time and money to provide a govt ID for the purposes of receiving VOLUNTARY discounts. What privileges are we supposed to receive? If there are any for vets like me, then we would have been issued said ID. If your state issued ID with vet status won't get you a discount and you are offended by that, go somewhere else. I have not yet been refused any discounts where discounts are given. I ask first and if they do offer discounts I show them my drivers license. Truth is, I can count on one hand the number of times I have asked for a discount. I separated voluntarily under honorable conditions. When I am at public events and they recognize veterans, I will stand up with others who have served. That is more than enough recognition. I deserve no special privileges, as I voluntarily served and voluntarily separated.

Response by SSgt Cliff Bowers made Dec 20 at 2016 8:14 AM

SSgt Cliff Bowers — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 08:14:18 -0500

Think I'll run a marathon. Not the whole thing of course, just a 1/4 or so. I BETTER get my medal and ALL the recognition that comes with it!

Response by SSgt Cliff Bowers made Dec 20 at 2016 8:16 AM

SSgt Cliff Bowers — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 08:16:53 -0500

Sounds Army Drill Instructors need to get back to foundational principles.

Response by SPC Negel Mohammed made Dec 20 at 2016 8:17 AM

SPC Negel Mohammed — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 08:17:02 -0500

I really don't understand why would anyone not want to let any former military service men/women get some privilege. It always will have someone that will always they didn't do as much as I did or stayed in as long as I did, But what if getting out was beyond their control,did they not serve,did they not sign the same contract, did they not give up some luxuries as the rest of us. The thing is that Post Exchanges are a business an if they aren't making a profit they would close or privatise . Then all of us will lose.Stand up for our brothers /sisters otherwise no one will.

Response by Sgt Scott Cruse made Dec 20 at 2016 8:25 AM

Sgt Scott Cruse — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 08:25:14 -0500

I'm with you.

Response by SGT Joie Quick made Dec 20 at 2016 8:28 AM

SGT Joie Quick — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 08:28:04 -0500

The Exchange (AAFES) has fought to get veterans the benefit of using the PX/BX. They had to go through Congress to do so. I believe they won to get veterans shopping privileges for online shopping using a database, perhaps from DEERS for verification. Send a message to them directly at shopmyexchance.com. They will answer you.

Response by Sgt Walt Clark made Dec 20 at 2016 8:38 AM

Sgt Walt Clark — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 08:38:38 -0500

I agree. I'm in that category as are so many and I think it would be a great lift to all veterans.

Response by SFC Domingo M. made Dec 20 at 2016 9:06 AM

SFC Domingo M. — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 09:06:05 -0500

This is the reason for sticking it out for 20+ years. I for one get all that because I am retired but don't think that any veterans should be denied the 10% discount at Home Depot or any other location that offers a discount to veterans. There should be a card but it should be issued by AMVETS or the VA, not the military.

Response by LCpl Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 20 at 2016 9:12 AM

LCpl Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 09:12:18 -0500

Yes, veterans should be a special class of citizens with certain privileges. A government ID would make it so much easier to isolate and identify veterans for any special treatment. We do the same now for Seniors discounts why not veterans.

Response by SFC Mike Wilkins made Dec 20 at 2016 9:25 AM

SFC Mike Wilkins — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 09:25:44 -0500

Only those that retired that devoted their life to the military should be able to use the bases privileges or are on active duty or were medically discharged. But as to the civilian side yes a vet ID card is a good idea for they gave of themselves to help the United States.

Response by A1C Charles D Wilson made Dec 20 at 2016 9:37 AM

A1C Charles D Wilson — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 09:37:14 -0500

I am lost on this. I served USAF Res 1984-1986 then active duty USAF 1986-1987 and received 1 Honorable and 1 GUHC. When I left the service I never looked back and worked until I had to retire in 2014 from a disability. I am a supporter of all my brothers and sisters who have served and have always wonder why Congress and our Reps made up these rules for us while very few ever served. They set in the marble castle as I call it and we all stood the line.
Yes I can see an issue will the budget but let us be real here. If they can send 11.9 B dollars to our enemy then something is wrong with the hill. This should no be an issue to cover and protect our brother and sisters at all cost as to some that is what has been taken from them was their life to defend those on the hill. At any given time any of us could have been called to perform our duty even us during the cold war era. So to me yeah we should have some type of I.D. even if I could care less about the B.X. / P.X. / Comm. and even the V.A. for that matter. Yet I do not want to carry around a full copy of my DD-214 (Back then I guess we did not have a short version) just to show some one when asked "You a vet?" Yes I have my USAF ball cap and on it I have my rank pin M.I.A. pin my lone only ribbon Basic Training and American flag pin. I get asked are you a vet and I will say yes. If questioned I will state my years and then if needed BMTS info to flight info and any base or command. (That goes to the Stolen Valor runners) Would I pay to have such an I.D. ??? Take my money any time as long as it is done proper. I see some say full 20+ retired for full benefits and I have no issues with that as some of us had no choice after the overhaul was done and nothing was available My unit 363rd CRS was one of those that they got rid of. Some got to stay but most did not as not enough time in and others had more time served...they got to stay. All is good though we just need better support from the hill and then some of us could have help when needed.

Response by SCPO Dale Leighton made Dec 20 at 2016 9:39 AM

SCPO Dale Leighton — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 09:39:36 -0500

It wouldn't be a bad idea now that the Army-Air Force-Exchange-Service AAFES is allowing or will shortly allow honorably discharged veterans to shop on the PX/BX website; shopmyexchange.com AAFES In store privileges can't be to far away. It could also work as another form of I.D. for TSA at airports.

Response by PO2 Scott Brooke made Dec 20 at 2016 9:43 AM

PO2 Scott Brooke — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 09:43:37 -0500

Goto:
1. https://www.ebenefits.va.gov/ebenefits/homepage
2. Manage Your Benefits
3. Documents & Records
4. VA Letters
5. Proof of Service Card

Also, the VA will be able to issue a Veterans ID card soon. They are projected to start September 2017.

Home - eBenefits

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Response by SSgt Bill Trevor made Dec 20 at 2016 9:58 AM

SSgt Bill Trevor — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 09:58:33 -0500

As my question has somehow brought out the fangs from some saying what is right or wrong or that I was asking for was something "not earned" or free handouts I'd like to respectfully come back to my original point. Reading the many comments (thanks to all who responded!) I see dozens of ways people have shown that they are a Veteran when asked. What I haven't seen is a nationally recognized way that EVERYONE knows and understands (civilian, government, retailer, etc). I do not think that is too much to ask for and maybe the state issued drivers license stating Veteran status would suffice if nationally recognized. Thanks again all and have a happy holiday season! - Cheers, Bill

Response by MSG Stan Hutchison made Dec 20 at 2016 10:07 AM

MSG Stan Hutchison — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:07:16 -0500

Plain and simple; want the benefits I have earned? Serve 20+ years.

Response by PO1 Tim Grace made Dec 20 at 2016 10:13 AM

PO1 Tim Grace — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:13:44 -0500

Why not? There are several things with this though. It has to be administered. This means people would have to be hired to check service information on all veterans that needed the ID, verify the person requesting is actually the person that is the veteran and who they say they are. The ID card has to be printed and issued. To me, if this is something going forward, the veteran should have to pay for their own ID card because of the added costs.
When I first exited, I had no use for a card. Now, 30 years later, with the advent of veteran's discounts and the potential use of exchanges, something like a veteran's ID card has become more useful.
There are several stores local to me that honor veterans (active duty, retirees and DAVs also) on a daily basis, and not just Veteran's Day, Memorial Day and Independence Day. My proof of service is a card I made and laminated. It consists of my DD214 on one side and Honorable Discharge certificate on the other. I shrunk them down to fit in my wallet. When I ask for the discount, I present this card and get the discount.

Response by PO2 Rev. Frederick C. Mullis, AFI, CFM made Dec 20 at 2016 10:19 AM

PO2 Rev. Frederick C. Mullis, AFI, CFM — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:19:22 -0500

SSgt have you considered joining the American Legion if eligible? The legion ID card will get you the veterans discount at Lowes and Home Depot and a few other locations who honor all Veterans.

Response by Cpl Amilcar Mendieta made Dec 20 at 2016 10:32 AM

Cpl Amilcar Mendieta — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:32:08 -0500

By all means, this should be the standard without question. Any clue how many of our troops are out here with almost no means to a better tomorrow. The less our government and military can do for us is providers with an identification of our dedication and love for our country.

Response by CPO Paul Niehaus made Dec 20 at 2016 10:43 AM

CPO Paul Niehaus — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:43:43 -0500

In this day and age with posers all about and the pride of showing that you served our country, our communities, and our families, also having a family be able to get death benefits for their veteran without trying to find that long lost D214, a national ID card would be a significant help. But the unintended consequences are what makes it so hard to come up with a card that wont confuse, dilute, or otherwise befuddle the general public. The service that was given for doing 20+years/ giving life or limb, was a contract that each member can decide to accept and if you do not than no harm no foul.
There are several veteran organizations that need your attendance and support that do provide a bonafide ID that show ones commitment to our country. Please explore those options and let me say Thank You for standing the watch!

Response by LCpl Javier Hernandez made Dec 20 at 2016 10:45 AM

LCpl Javier Hernandez — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:45:36 -0500

I say there should be. Other veterans should have this option

Response by SSgt Boyd Welch made Dec 20 at 2016 10:53 AM

SSgt Boyd Welch — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:53:52 -0500

I served honorably for a fixed amount of time. I received benefits from the government for that service. Other than agreed upon benefits (GI Bill..etc..), my entitlement ended. Private businesses that honor the military by offering discounts or free services, should go to active duty FIRST, then retirees and vets. I would hate the thought of some vets going into a store and demanding a discount because of some sense of entitlement. Save that for the VA. I've watched shameful displays of veterans berating Home Depot store employees because they didn't offer year round discounts for vets. If that is an entitlement that we tell a private company "you owe me.." then what time is dinner at your house because I think you should feed me...Just an old guys opinion...

Response by PO1 Kevin Dougherty made Dec 20 at 2016 11:06 AM

PO1 Kevin Dougherty — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 11:06:30 -0500

I do think it would be a good idea, if nothing else a sign of gratitude from the nation we willingly, and in most cases, volunteered to serve and would be willing to step up again if needed. The current VA card which has your picture, and I hear now includes your service is a good start. The system is in place, I would not think it would be a big expense to make it more universally available.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 20 at 2016 11:16 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 11:16:38 -0500

isn't VA card a federal issue ID ? if that's the case than VA secretary should talk to commerce or whatever secretary and come to an understanding.

Response by SPC Sean Furey made Dec 20 at 2016 11:30 AM

SPC Sean Furey — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 11:30:43 -0500

Sounds good, so the next time stores or restaurants offer free meals on Veterans Day, show them the card. So one can avoid that scenario where a vet's meal was denied to him because he did not have sufficient prove that he was military.

Response by PO1 Gregg Mundy made Dec 20 at 2016 11:34 AM

PO1 Gregg Mundy — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 11:34:23 -0500

A National Veterans ID card for all that didn't retire, sure why not. We did our time, Service and Duty to the Country we love. For those that stuck it out for 20, and 20 plus years they get Base privileges. This could be easily solved by each State acknowledging a "V" for Veteran on the Drivers License. If for some reason you don't have a Drivers License, you could apply for a Veterans Card set up thru the State in which you live.

Response by LTJG Richard Bruce made Dec 20 at 2016 11:51 AM

LTJG Richard Bruce — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 11:51:06 -0500

What privileges do you want? Was my time in uniform more important than other's in Gov't service in dangerous and isolated duties? I've worked with many federal LE agents and private contractors who have lived a much more difficult life than the majority of those who served in the military.

I have no need to frequent the local VA, Exchange or Commissary. I have a "V" on my Florida driver's license to designate veterans status. Main purpose is to help explain numerous address changes. I don't use the "military" discounts most retailers offer. I don't believe others should have to subsidize my purchases. I feel like I'm taking money away from their families.

Response by 1SG John Baize made Dec 20 at 2016 11:51 AM

1SG John Baize — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 11:51:27 -0500

I think it would be a good way for the VA to assist in some small way all veterans. Most organizations will accept a retiree ID card as proof, so we are not affected. Carrying around a copy of a DD214 is really not a good answer.

Response by SSgt James Assad made Dec 20 at 2016 11:58 AM

SSgt James Assad — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 11:58:28 -0500

Here in the State of Florida, every honorable discharged veteran has the option to have their veteran status documented on their drivers license with a large letter "V" (for veteran). This is so veterans (who have not retired from service) have verified credentials in order to take advantage of benefits that are available to all veterans out here in the civilian world, i.e. military discounts in civilian stores, etc...
I do not believe every veteran should get a U.S. government issued I.D. and think this is a good alternative. As far as being able to utilize PX and other on base benefits, this should remain to only those who service members and authorized dependents active duty or retired. That is a continued benefit earned from continuing to serve year after year and retiring from the service needs to continue to have benefits above and beyond that of only doing "4 and out the door."

Response by MSgt James White made Dec 20 at 2016 12:05 PM

MSgt James White — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 12:05:34 -0500

We can barely get the services we need/require via the VA and I do not see a reason to clog things up by having the issuance of more id cards...

Response by SSgt Boyd Herrst made Dec 20 at 2016 12:07 PM

SSgt Boyd Herrst — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 12:07:42 -0500

You had to have proof to have it on your Driver license, so that it is legal proof of you being a Veteran. Businesses don't have a choice but to accept as proof. I'm in Mi. and used my license as proof,
I was given a hard time. The clerk called his mgr. at home and I conversed with him and she ok'd the discount on the rental. So where ever you are you should be able also(check with your DMV to make sure..

Response by Cpl Joshua Caldwell made Dec 20 at 2016 12:24 PM

Cpl Joshua Caldwell — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 12:24:36 -0500

I like the idea but the logistics of issuing would be insane. I'm not sure what if any benefit it would/could be. I think my VA medical card works as well as anything.

Response by SPC Edward Robinson made Dec 20 at 2016 12:27 PM

SPC Edward Robinson — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 12:27:56 -0500

Here in the Great State of Montana you are able to have "VETERAN" put on your State Driver License.

You only have to fill out the form and send in with a copy of your DD214. Only the ones who received an Honorable Discharge from their Service Branch are able to have it put there.

When the State of Montana started this was in the year 2014. When they started this I put in for it and it was only $10.00 American Dollars to have it added. Well worth it.

To apply for a Veteran Designation, you will need to:
1.Submit form 21-3000
2.Pay the $10 fee
3.Submit documentation from the State of Montana Veteran Affairs confirming your veteran status

https://dojmt.gov/driving/military-services/

Military Services - Montana Department of Justice

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Response by LTC Stephen B. made Dec 20 at 2016 12:29 PM

LTC Stephen B. — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 12:29:25 -0500

My opinion: those that EARNED extra benefits are the ones that deserve them. I retired and earned the privilege to use the base exchanges and commissaries, but often choose not to for the same reason I choose not to get in line at Dennys/IHOP/Golden Corral on giveaway days - there are many others, especially the junior troops still serving, that need those benefits and don't need me and others making the lines so long they don't have the time to get in and out during whatever free time they have, or buying out the Deals before they get a chance to take care of their families.

My opinion - everyone deserves to live under the freedoms they fought for, no more and no less. There comes a time to beat your sword back into a plowshare and join the rest of your fellow citizens. To entice members to give a large portion of the prime years of their lives, the government offers extras to those that stay for 20 or more years. That is the agreement made between every service member and the representatives of the taxpayers that subsidize those things.

While I'm glad there are those businesses that truly care about the veterans and want to help, I've also been around long enough to tell the difference between support and pandering. I will always be proud of my own service, but mostly in the context of continuing my family's heritage.

Response by LTC Stephen B. made Dec 20 at 2016 12:36 PM

LTC Stephen B. — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 12:36:30 -0500

It's already law (since July 2015). Those making the transition from military to civilian should be aware of it, if their Transition Assistance Office is on their game.

I guess I shouldn't assume that all veterans are aware of the law that was passed last summer, not everyone still lives and breathes these issues on a daily basis.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/91/text

Text - H.R.91 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): Veterans Identification Card Act 2015

Text for H.R.91 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): Veterans Identification Card Act 2015

Response by SSgt Boyd Herrst made Dec 20 at 2016 12:49 PM

SSgt Boyd Herrst — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 12:49:27 -0500

Thanks for vote up !

Response by SPC Russell Edwards Jr made Dec 20 at 2016 12:49 PM

SPC Russell Edwards Jr — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 12:49:48 -0500

National ID card would be great. I already have a VA card, American Legion and DAV membership card. Access to military bases or forts should be reserved only for Active and Retired military.

Response by Sgt Robert Gardner made Dec 20 at 2016 12:50 PM

Sgt Robert Gardner — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 12:50:55 -0500

There is one available now and you can get it by going to a Veterans Hospital and applying for benefits, you will receive a photo ID from the Dept of Veterans Affairs. It's simple and easy.

Response by Capt Joseph Olson made Dec 20 at 2016 12:58 PM

Capt Joseph Olson — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 12:58:10 -0500

Yes, indeed. Although I volunteered (I know, never do it) for service in the RVN, the Government did not send me. I suffered no LOD injuries. I did evetything i was asked to do and hsve an honorable discharge. Buy I can't prove it without my DD Form 214 (which has me SSAN number on it) anf Discharge papers csnnot be copied. I am not eligible for anything from the VA except a home loan. ETC. I am eligible for discounts from some retailers but I have no easy eay to demonstrate thay fact. This is a good idea.

Response by SPC Randy Torgerson made Dec 20 at 2016 1:04 PM

SPC Randy Torgerson — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 13:04:25 -0500

Just go to your local VA and get your VA id card. I don't understand the problem? You don't have to use the benefits, just sign up and get your VA id card.

Response by 1LT Geoffrey Oakley made Dec 20 at 2016 1:16 PM

1LT Geoffrey Oakley — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 13:16:09 -0500

C'mon, people. A simple search of the VA website will put you on target and get you out of these pointless discussions about who's service counts more.

To Quote:

"On July 20, 2015, the president signed into law the Veterans Identification Card Act of 2015. This act allows Veterans to apply for an identification card directly from VA. The VA identification card will allow Veterans to demonstrate proof of service for discounts at private restaurants and businesses.
When available, Veterans will be able to request an ID card from VA for a fee. VA is currently making plans to implement the new law in the most efficient and cost-effective way possible while protecting Veterans’ personal information. We estimate that VA will be able implement the program in 2017. The cost of each card has not yet been determined.

In the meantime, Veterans who would like an identification card that displays their military service do not have to wait until VA implements the new law. You have several options:
•You can access and print a free Veterans identification proof of service letter through the joint VA/DoD web portal, eBenefits. This serves as proof of honorable service in the Uniformed Services, as defined in laws about the Department of Defense (DoD). Veterans can get a free eBenefits account by going to https://www.ebenefits.va.gov/ebenefits/homepage.
•Your driver’s license or state identification card can carry a Veteran designation. This option is currently available in 49 states, along with Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia. We expect the 50th state, Washington, to offer this service in August 2017. Veterans wanting more information should contact their state department of motor vehicles or state department of Veterans affairs at http://www.va.gov/statedva.htm.
•Veterans who are enrolled in VA health care can obtain a free Veterans Health Identification Card (VHIC). For more information, please go to http://www.va.gov/HEALTHBENEFITS/vhic/index.asp.
•Veterans who have retired from military service can receive an identification card from DoD. For information on obtaining or renewing such a card, please contact your nearest DoD identification card facility. You can find the location of these facilities through this link: https://www.dmdc.osd.mil/rsl/appj/site."

Garry Owen!

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Response by SP5 Rod Bernsen made Dec 20 at 2016 1:48 PM

SP5 Rod Bernsen — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 13:48:04 -0500

Many states, Arizona and Colorado are two, that put "veteran" on their Driver's Licenses. I got mine in AZ

Response by CW5 John Vassar made Dec 20 at 2016 2:16 PM

CW5 John Vassar — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 14:16:40 -0500

When I was a young man, veterans with eight or more years of service could request appointment to the Honorary Retired Reserve and get an ID Card with that status.

Response by PO2 Mark Lucier made Dec 20 at 2016 2:35 PM

PO2 Mark Lucier — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 14:35:36 -0500

I am backing you I do believe if you have served you should get a Veteran's ID card.

Response by CPO Bill Penrod made Dec 20 at 2016 2:49 PM

CPO Bill Penrod — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 14:49:10 -0500

People are always wanting privedges unearned that's why there welfare and food stamp programs.

Response by SSG Alfonso Pagan made Dec 20 at 2016 3:06 PM

SSG Alfonso Pagan — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 15:06:39 -0500

Most will accept your DD214

Response by PO1 Scott Cottrell made Dec 20 at 2016 3:37 PM

PO1 Scott Cottrell — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 15:37:47 -0500

I see no harm in a National Veterans ID Card. On this post I see SSgt Trevor catching hell about BX and Commissary use. Nowhere in the opening post does he say anything about BX and Commissary use. Unless I missed it somewhere else in a reply he never asked for those privileges. As for BX and Commissary use by Vets (other than those already able to use them) it would be a nightmare for everyone involved, would not be 5 times as many people, more like 10 times as many people in the BX and Commissary, also a security nightmare.

Response by SSgt Jerry Couchman made Dec 20 at 2016 3:44 PM

SSgt Jerry Couchman — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 15:44:24 -0500

All you have to do is apply. you do not have to be disabled. Honorable Discharge and DD-214.

Response by SFC Raymond Burke made Dec 20 at 2016 4:46 PM

SFC Raymond Burke — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 16:46:33 -0500

Ssgt Trevor, your question is worded in a way that leads many to think that you only want this to take advantage of some retailers discount programs. If this is the case my answer is no. No one owes us anything. Each of us has been or is being compensated for our service. Some have earned additional privileges through retirement or through medical. If a retailer chooses to show support by offering a discount to military that is their choice and I thank them. If they choose to only offer this to select members of the military I still thank them for their support. I think we have become a bit inamored with ourselves when we as veterans begin to think that the general public owe us anything above what we were promised by our proponent while we were in.

Response by LCpl James Robertson made Dec 20 at 2016 5:40 PM

LCpl James Robertson — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 17:40:28 -0500

I actually called Fort Bragg, NC., and asked could veterans use the PX on base since revenue were down at that time. I were told it would create a traffic nightmare, but they would be open to the idea soon of internet purchases.

Response by PO1 Edward Pate made Dec 20 at 2016 7:27 PM

PO1 Edward Pate — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 19:27:04 -0500

I cannot speak for other states but here in Michigan when you go to renew your driver's license if you bring your DD-214 in they will indicate on your license that you are a veteran. Use it all the time to get veteran's discounts.

Response by SPC Byron Skinner made Dec 20 at 2016 8:22 PM

SPC Byron Skinner — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 20:22:09 -0500

Sp4 Byron Skinner…No. I'm not sure what purpose other then asking for special privileges from businesses that such a card would be shown. We all should be thankful that we as Americans don't have national ID's and "papers" which are required to cross from Iowa to Nebraska. Service in the military outside of the benefits you agreed to upon enlistment should not be demand just because of your service.

Response by SPC Daniel Saddler made Dec 20 at 2016 8:24 PM

SPC Daniel Saddler — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 20:24:20 -0500

I agree 100%

Response by SSgt Frank Boyd made Dec 20 at 2016 8:54 PM

SSgt Frank Boyd — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 20:54:49 -0500

While a federally issued veteran ID for honorably separated individuals, like myself, would be nice, I'm pleased that Virginia does offer one that is completly independent of the DL. You still need to go to DMV with your 214 to prove your status and discharge conditions, but then you can leave the 214 in the fire safe.

Response by SGT Frank Miranda made Dec 20 at 2016 9:19 PM

SGT Frank Miranda — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 21:19:35 -0500

As mentioned by some others, there is already a veteran ID issued by the gov't, you get it at the VA. But to add some more details, you don't have to be receiving any benefits to get it. When I first got mine, I wasn't getting any benefits. Go to your closest VA with your DD214, to the Patient Business Office. When you register, the forms do ask for certain medical and financial info. You don't have to provide it if you're not seeking benefits. If you need benefits later, you are able to submit the forms again. I use my vet ID whereever and whenever a business is offering discounts rather than carrying around a folded copy of my 214- much more convenient.

Response by CPL Sharon Fahey made Dec 20 at 2016 11:09 PM

CPL Sharon Fahey — Tue, 20 Dec 2016 23:09:36 -0500

Yes! Especially now that civilians not only rent on base but seem to think they deserve our earned entitlements, now that's clueless!

Response by SPC David Radford made Dec 21 at 2016 1:46 AM

SPC David Radford — Wed, 21 Dec 2016 01:46:43 -0500

Why shouldn't a veteran be able to go to the PX or Commisery??
I think it's absurd !!

Response by SFC Rich Gomez made Dec 21 at 2016 1:48 AM

SFC Rich Gomez — Wed, 21 Dec 2016 01:48:25 -0500

Bill Trevor, sounds like you have a lot of sour grapes. Why should have those privileges after you chose to quit of your own volition knowing full well that had to give up all rights to those privileges. GREED is a very unbecoming characteristic trait... you sound to me like one of those guys walking around telling war stories of trumped up heroism... Stop while you are ahead.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 21 at 2016 4:00 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 21 Dec 2016 04:00:28 -0500

I think it's a disservice for all those who served 20+ years retirees. If you only served
less than that then your only benefits are the GI Bill and the VA Home Loan.

Response by SSgt Michiele Ward made Dec 21 at 2016 4:45 AM

SSgt Michiele Ward — Wed, 21 Dec 2016 04:45:40 -0500

I get VA benefits. I did not retire. I would love to be able to use the commissary and BX. 60% disabled.

Response by SSgt Michiele Ward made Dec 21 at 2016 4:51 AM

SSgt Michiele Ward — Wed, 21 Dec 2016 04:51:48 -0500

It might be helpful in getting some homeless vets help too.

Response by SPC Tom Walsh made Dec 21 at 2016 6:17 AM

SPC Tom Walsh — Wed, 21 Dec 2016 06:17:30 -0500

I could get behind this version of things.
6+ years on active duty or 12+ years with the reserves, = Veteran. No military privileges, but a "Military Veteran" icon on a driver's license? Yeah. I support this.

Response by SGT Charles Sullivan made Dec 21 at 2016 7:52 AM

SGT Charles Sullivan — Wed, 21 Dec 2016 07:52:00 -0500

In NC it is allowed on the drivers license I have it on mine, but an actually VA card with picture would be nice my VA from 1980 has my social security number on and my name only

Response by LTC Mark Beattie made Dec 21 at 2016 9:29 AM

LTC Mark Beattie — Wed, 21 Dec 2016 09:29:35 -0500

I support the idea. It would reduce the need to carry around a DD Form 314 to prove your service.

Response by Cpl Jamie Snider made Dec 21 at 2016 10:54 AM

Cpl Jamie Snider — Wed, 21 Dec 2016 10:54:19 -0500

It's in the works. http://www.blogs.va.gov/VAntage/26568/veteran-id-cards-options/

Veteran ID Cards: What your options are now and in the future - VAntage Point

Veterans who would like an identification card that displays their military service have several options available to them now.

Response by SSgt Michael Cox made Dec 21 at 2016 11:11 AM

SSgt Michael Cox — Wed, 21 Dec 2016 11:11:40 -0500

We do have a National Veteran ID Card. Anyone who is considered a veteran by VA standards can register at any VA Medical Center and receive an ID Card even if they do not have a Service Connected Disability. The only thing on the ID that is different is that it will not say Service Connected under the picture.

All you need is a DD-214 Member Copy 4 and a picture ID. You will fill out some paperwork and normally within 10 days you will have your card in the mail.

Most businesses except the VA ID Card as Military ID for discounts and services also.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 21 at 2016 11:21 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 21 Dec 2016 11:21:31 -0500

In July 2015, the President signed into law the Veterans Identification Card Act of 2015. That law will create a national Veteran ID, which is expected to become available by mid-2017, and which will be available to honorably-discharged veterans and current service members who pay a small processing fee. The ID is only to act as a proof of honorable service, and grants no further benefits nor access to Base/Post, BX/PX, or commissary, and in that respect is essentially the equivalent of a portable picture-ID version of a DD-214, but with far less PII on it. Unlike a conventional Retired ID, there is no need to have reached 20 years to get this new ID. Unlike the current VA healthcare ID, this can technically be used as proof of service, does not grant access to VA healthcare, and will be available to people who don't qualify for VA care.

Response by SPC Kevin Hose made Dec 21 at 2016 12:05 PM

SPC Kevin Hose — Wed, 21 Dec 2016 12:05:45 -0500

You can get a proof of service card from the VA which is like an ID card for vets not in the VA Health Care system. My question to you is why wouldn't you apply for benefits or enroll in the system. It is free for vets.

Response by SPC Kevin Hose made Dec 21 at 2016 12:06 PM

SPC Kevin Hose — Wed, 21 Dec 2016 12:06:13 -0500

Response by GySgt Thomas Reichard made Dec 21 at 2016 2:05 PM

GySgt Thomas Reichard — Wed, 21 Dec 2016 14:05:45 -0500

S/Sgt,

Your first line tells why YOU don't have a Govt. issued Veterans I.D. card. Get in the V.A. system, you'll be issued a V.A. picture I.D. that is easily recognizable by businesses and accepted. EVERY Veteran is eligible to get one regardless of disability rating or level of care they rate.

If on discharge, you did not spend at least a day at the V.A. getting in the system then it's your bad not the Govt.'s. The V.A. reimburses for travel to and fro too.

As far as getting the same as Retirees goes, that is up to the individual business. Just because a vendor offers Military discounts does not mean they are all inclusive. One example is a local shooting range that at one time offered discounts to all Vet.'s. That has changed, at first to A.D. only and now they are including Retirees too. When it was open to all they would accept membership cards from Veterans Organizations as well.

Things like on-base activities have always been there for A.D. an Retirees. They were established to offset the differences between Military and private sector pay levels. Thought the Military is paid better now than it has ever been there is still a discrepancy. At one time Reservists were not even eligible unless on A.D. status, i.e. drill or A.D.T. This part has changed, thought I'm not sure of the exact details.

In short, go to the V.A., get in the system and get your I.D. issued. You'll find it makes a world of difference.

Semper Fi...

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 21 at 2016 3:10 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 21 Dec 2016 15:10:05 -0500

SFC Domingo M., kindly please stop spamming the thread. You've responded with the same link at least 20 separate times. The link is good info (even if you get the facts about it wrong -- the VA is not ready to issue cards before at least mid-2017 and possibly later) but that does not justify the continued spamming.

Response by CCMSgt Douglas Ackerman made Dec 21 at 2016 6:05 PM

CCMSgt Douglas Ackerman — Wed, 21 Dec 2016 18:05:46 -0500

All who served honorably should have some forms of ID to show without carrying a DD 214.

Response by Sgt Gerald Sharpe made Dec 21 at 2016 7:09 PM

Sgt Gerald Sharpe — Wed, 21 Dec 2016 19:09:58 -0500

Yes

Response by PO3 Michael James made Dec 21 at 2016 9:44 PM

PO3 Michael James — Wed, 21 Dec 2016 21:44:27 -0500

Federal Government Issued ?? Please Sir, Congress is so confused the have ordered installation of GPS, so each member is able to find the Restrooms.. Aside from that they don't Care at all !! Now if each state were to place it on State Drivers License, that might show some appreciation ! However this again is showing some respect for our Veterans, something they fail to do !! Semper Fi, SSgt Trevor

Response by Maj Marty Greene made Dec 22 at 2016 12:13 AM

Maj Marty Greene — Thu, 22 Dec 2016 00:13:08 -0500

I retired twice from the USAF, first in 1994, then again in 2011, after a voluntary two year recall. I had a few years to go until retirement, so I worked at Lowes until Soc Sec kicked in. Our policy was the same as Home Depot. Active, disabled, and retired get the 10% discount all year, along with their families. That is both Lowes and HD policy. But the employees, who have not been in the military, don't know the difference between retiree and veteran. So some think all veterans should get the discount. Unscrupulous veterans feed on this misconception, and demand the discount based on their DMV notation. We tried to educate all that Veterans (like my own son and daughter) get the discount on Mem Day, Vet's Day, and 4th of July. But only active, disabled, retirees and their families during the rest of the year. Honorable veterans know the difference, and don't try to "trick" the 18 yr old behind the counter that they are somehow entitled to the discount.

Response by SFC Joseph Weber made Dec 22 at 2016 7:43 AM

SFC Joseph Weber — Thu, 22 Dec 2016 07:43:43 -0500

Not exactly on topic but whats the big deal about the PX. The one here in Wichita petty much sucks.

Response by MSgt Stephen Council made Dec 22 at 2016 8:35 AM

MSgt Stephen Council — Thu, 22 Dec 2016 08:35:03 -0500

SSgt Bill Trevor So, it seems that you have offered up a very intriguing topic that many people have heartfelt opinions on. This post has generated a lot of useful discourse and some very interesting ideas and opinions. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. Whether people stand for or against it, most have presented their opinions in a well thought out and articulate manner. I for one appreciate and thank you for bringing this to the RallyPoint forum! Semper Fi from an old Air Force Guy!

Response by MSgt Stephen Council made Dec 22 at 2016 2:56 PM

MSgt Stephen Council — Thu, 22 Dec 2016 14:56:38 -0500

SSgt Bill Trevor and all the contributors to this thread: You can get a VA card with a VA determination of 0% disability. Just fill out the paperwork and go to the local VA service center.

Response by SN Michael Smith made Dec 22 at 2016 3:09 PM

SN Michael Smith — Thu, 22 Dec 2016 15:09:16 -0500

My question is... What is a veteran? The American War College uses the "Any,Any,Any" definition.
"What is a Veteran?

A veteran is defined by federal law, moral code and military service as "Any, Any, Any"... A military veteran is Any person who served for Any length of time in Any military service branch. [See #1 and #2, below]"
"NOTE:
1. Veteran's benefits are based on Congressional regulations determined by Honorable Discharge or Under Honorable Conditions status.
2. Retirees (either 20+ years service or medical discharge status) are also Veterans. Retirees are usually eligible for supplementary federal benefits, privileges and access on military installations, but not necessarily all VA services (some services are maintained by the former military branch), as regulated by Congress."
By this definition I would be a veteran having been in boot camp when I was given a medical discharge, yet I am told that because I did not make it to A School I'm not a vet. By VA regulations I don't qualify for benefits of any type as I am not considered a vet. I have a DD214 so I just keep asking "What constitutes a veteran?"

I consider most retired/discharged members of the military that have an honorable or honorable under other conditions to be Vets. A dishonorable discharge gets you NOTHING.

I would like to see a National ID for all those people who don't meet VA requirements.

Just my thoughts and opinion.

Response by MSgt Wayne Morris made Dec 22 at 2016 5:01 PM

MSgt Wayne Morris — Thu, 22 Dec 2016 17:01:30 -0500

No beef with it but should be left up to the individual states. What about the basic trainee who gets injured in basic and is Honorably discharged; should he/she qualify? BX and commissary, do most really care? I haven't been in either in more than 10-12 years and saw nothing that I couldn't find cheaper off base. Tricare has become fairly worthless also unless you live within the required minimum mileage of a military healthcare facility. With their pharmacy flip flopping every several years it just becomes a big headache if you have other health insurance who requires you to use a different one. Want an ID, give them one but the grass isn't necessarily greener on the other side of the septic tank.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 22 at 2016 11:22 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 22 Dec 2016 23:22:30 -0500

yes

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 23 at 2016 9:10 AM

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 23 Dec 2016 09:10:23 -0500

Yea!! I tried to get the Driver's License designation in Paris Tn. They wanted a certified copy of my DD214 from 1973. My retirees ID should have been more than proof enough. As for the veterans ID still more BS. I served in NAM had a 16 year beak and retired from AFRES with 24 years. Because I am not on VA health care I cannot take advantage of Flu shots and such at Wal Mart

Response by SPC Juanita Anderson made Dec 23 at 2016 2:18 PM

SPC Juanita Anderson — Fri, 23 Dec 2016 14:18:35 -0500

It call a va card

Response by SP5 Michael Cates made Dec 24 at 2016 12:57 AM

SP5 Michael Cates — Sat, 24 Dec 2016 00:57:45 -0500

Yes!

Response by SSgt James Tadlock made Dec 24 at 2016 12:40 PM

SSgt James Tadlock — Sat, 24 Dec 2016 12:40:24 -0500

I agree there should be a national veterans ID card. Absolutely.

Response by SSgt James Tadlock made Dec 24 at 2016 12:43 PM

SSgt James Tadlock — Sat, 24 Dec 2016 12:43:12 -0500

My name is Jimmy and I will take what you gimmee ! Thank you Sir for your service.

Response by SrA Clethus Wedgeworth made Dec 27 at 2016 4:00 PM

SrA Clethus Wedgeworth — Tue, 27 Dec 2016 16:00:10 -0500

Yes, all veterans should get veterans card that were honorably discharged or retired.

Response by CAPT Pauline Bozdech-Veater made Dec 28 at 2016 2:26 PM

CAPT Pauline Bozdech-Veater — Wed, 28 Dec 2016 14:26:04 -0500

The VA has been authorized by law to issue such an ID but hasn't taken it on due to cost. Law enacted without any funding support. Best I can suggest is to make a copy of DD214, black out SSN shrink it and keep in wallet. A pain but about the best one can do at think at this point

Response by TSgt Dan Decker made Dec 29 at 2016 1:34 PM

TSgt Dan Decker — Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:34:20 -0500

I would say yes. An awful lot of non-veterans try to get veterans' benefits. Such a card would stop that from continuing.

Response by 1SG Harold Piet made Dec 30 at 2016 5:14 AM

1SG Harold Piet — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 05:14:53 -0500

If you retired, or registered with Va you have one. This sounds like someone wanting the taxpayer to pay for a card so that civilian business will give us discounts. Not The Government's job and appears to waste tax dollars for a selfish purpose.

Response by SFC Bill Snyder made Dec 30 at 2016 8:22 PM

SFC Bill Snyder — Fri, 30 Dec 2016 20:22:59 -0500

From wha I understand, all you have to do is go to any VA facility with your DD 214 and they will issue you an ID. It will be sent by mail. You don't have to be receiving benefits to get it.

Response by MSG Don Burt made Jan 1 at 2017 3:12 PM

MSG Don Burt — Sun, 01 Jan 2017 15:12:38 -0500

Even before I retired I was able to obtain Military Discounts when I asked for them if the particular agent, store, shop, movie, etc. was providing them. Asking was the main way of getting the discount. After my first enlistment I wasn't looking for extra's. When you honorably serve and are discharged you get letter/statement/sheepskin form stating that. Getting a National ID card won't provide you with a "automatic discount" unless the retailer, etc. is willing to give a Military Discount and many don't offer or provide that. I don't know of any municipality or local tax breaks given, if you do, please advise what and where they are.

Response by LTC George Morgan made Jan 4 at 2017 3:52 PM

LTC George Morgan — Wed, 04 Jan 2017 15:52:15 -0500

Surely this is covered by your Retirement ID Card.

Response by SSG Mike Zientek made Jan 10 at 2017 12:00 PM

SSG Mike Zientek — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:00:51 -0500

Great idea, although, what criteria determines Veteran status for this ID?
Completion of Basic AND Individual Skill Training?
Completion of your first contract, however many years that was for?
Would this apply to Guard/Reserve, or just Active Duty?
Apply to medically retired and medically discharged before the end of first contract?

Response by Cpl John Mathews made Jan 10 at 2017 4:19 PM

Cpl John Mathews — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 16:19:43 -0500

Here's the ptoblem with issuing a national veteran's card. Some agency, such as the VA, would have to administer the program and issue millions of cards. In order to issue the cards that agency would have to maintain a database that would include a lot of sensitive personal information. The more agencies that have our PII, the less secure we are from breaches, spillage, or hacking. Some states (e.g., Virginia) issue a separate veteran's ID card for a nominal fee, but it doesn't seem very useful. Still, I would think VA or state ID cards would be best.

Response by FN Charlie Spivey made Jan 12 at 2017 12:38 PM

FN Charlie Spivey — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:38:39 -0500

Been reading through this. Most States, as far as Know recognize Vets in one way or another, from Tags to I.D. As has been stated, the VA will issue a card. All you need is your DD214. Most Places will also accept a VFW, DAV, American Legion Membership card that is good. You do have to ask if they give Military Discounts as they are not posted or advertised. If you get a Medical Retirement from the Military, I think you get the standard Retired I.D. card and maybe Commissary / Exchange Priviledges. If you are 100% Service Connected by the VA, you can go to a military base with the letter stating your Rating and DD214 ( not sure if this is really needed ) and you can get a DoD Uniformed Services I.D. card that will grant you Commissary/Exchange priviledges.

Response by SFC David Pratt made Jan 12 at 2017 3:04 PM

SFC David Pratt — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 15:04:11 -0500

Only if they want them; some SM want to go off grid

Response by Sgt Frank Rinchich made Jan 12 at 2017 6:49 PM

Sgt Frank Rinchich — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 18:49:13 -0500

No, enough cards floating around in civilian life. you deserve the VA card, you have your discharge card, it's starting to get as bad as passwords for everything you have on the computer, you will need a special wallet to carry your veterans cards and pc passwords. you want people to know you are a veteran, join one of many veteran organizations, VFW, Marine Corps League, American legion ect" do your part in civilian life as a veteran. if your ego just wants to let people know you are a veteran , paint it on the side of you truck .look at my truck you would have no doubt I am a Marine. I am proud of it and I flaunt it.

Response by 1LT Peter Duston made Jan 19 at 2017 4:57 PM

1LT Peter Duston — Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:57:12 -0500

When I was a young soldier years ago, with my first discharge, along with my DD214, I received a ID Card size summary that I laminated and presented whenever I needed to show that I was a veteran. I think it might have been called a DD214a. Easy and cheap!

Response by PFC Francis Ramseyer made Jan 24 at 2017 8:42 AM

PFC Francis Ramseyer — Tue, 24 Jan 2017 08:42:15 -0500

Yes, that would be a good thing.

Response by SPC Melanie Vancegonzalez made Feb 2 at 2017 2:18 AM

SPC Melanie Vancegonzalez — Thu, 02 Feb 2017 02:18:21 -0500

Yes there should be a card. Even the cards issued by the VA are not always accepted.

Response by Lt Col Jim Coe made Feb 9 at 2017 12:39 PM

Lt Col Jim Coe — Thu, 09 Feb 2017 12:39:27 -0500

I'm with you. Every honorably discharged veteran should receive a military ID card that's similar to a retired ID card. The color could be different and it should be clearly marked to denote the privileges (if any) to which the veteran is entitled. Receiving the card could be a regular part of out-processing. The cost would appear to be pretty low and the additional time required would be minimal. Personnel offices have the technology and equipment necessary to make ID cards with minimal work now.

Response by SSgt Michael Cox made Feb 16 at 2017 12:09 PM

SSgt Michael Cox — Thu, 16 Feb 2017 12:09:41 -0500

I have seen were people hate the VA for one reason or another. Personally I have never had a bad experience at the VA it self, with the Choice Card yes but not at the VA its self. The VA does have an ID Card that is recognized everywhere at least in Spokane WA. as I have never had a problem getting military discounts.

Response by SrA Angela Waterman made Feb 23 at 2017 10:22 AM

SrA Angela Waterman — Thu, 23 Feb 2017 10:22:11 -0500

I think as part of the outprocessing of a service member, if being discharged honorably, a veteran should receive an ID card. This proof of service could then be used more widely, not only as a means of receiving a veterans discount at a retailer, but for VA purposes and other veteran related services. It could be a condensed version of the DD-214 without including every bit of information, being wallet sized.

Response by PFC Francis Ramseyer made Feb 23 at 2017 12:43 PM

PFC Francis Ramseyer — Thu, 23 Feb 2017 12:43:59 -0500

Yes , that's a good idea.

Response by Sgt Brian Kellogg made Nov 17 at 2017 12:34 PM

Sgt Brian Kellogg — Fri, 17 Nov 2017 12:34:13 -0500

Some businesses only recognize:1. Retired Military, 2. Active Duty, 3. Active Reserve, and 4. Disabled Veteran. (and you must have a card to prove it) Such as Home Depot. Lowes used to be that way but recently changed to honor ALL veterans and family members as well. Just depends on the business.