Should voting be a right for working taxpaying FAMILIES only?

Sgt Seth Welch — Sun, 28 Aug 2016 07:14:44 -0400

I'll throw in my vote... I think it's a great opportunity to balance the scales, and end all the system reliant liberal coat tail riding of the non taxpayers that have made careers using my uncle Sam donations to have nicer cars and bigger steaks than I get working...

Where do you stand?

Response by TSgt Joe C. made Aug 28 at 2016 7:31 AM

TSgt Joe C. — Sun, 28 Aug 2016 07:31:36 -0400

Definitely a good opportunity Sgt Seth Welch

Response by SGT Christopher Clarke made Aug 28 at 2016 7:50 AM

SGT Christopher Clarke — Sun, 28 Aug 2016 07:50:15 -0400

What does paying taxes have with being a citizen of this great Country when it comes to voting? Nothing at all. You have a legal right to vote which allows you to go to the polls and cast your ballot. Hooah

Response by CW4 Abdulaziz Bulling made Aug 28 at 2016 8:03 AM

CW4 Abdulaziz Bulling — Sun, 28 Aug 2016 08:03:02 -0400

Does that mean that the widow of a veteran that is not working could not vote? Voting and paying taxes have nothing to do with each other. It would also require amending the constitution; not something that should be taken lightly. I would prefer that something be done to benefit vets; like exempting military pay for active duty and retirees from income tax.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 28 at 2016 8:17 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 28 Aug 2016 08:17:09 -0400

So you don't think military retirees, living off the taxpayers, should get to vote? Or seniors on social security? Seems pretty extreme to me.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 28 at 2016 9:32 AM

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 28 Aug 2016 09:32:33 -0400

The founders gave the voting rights to the individual states to make their own rules. At one time only property owners could vote. The logic behind that was simple; the lazy have-nots didn't have a stake in the game because the founders didn't create a pure democracy where mobs could vote away property rights. It gave the incentive to work hard and buy their own land/property.

Response by MSG Stan Hutchison made Aug 28 at 2016 9:57 AM

MSG Stan Hutchison — Sun, 28 Aug 2016 09:57:01 -0400

I would like one person to provide actual facts as to how many of those folks you speak of actually vote. Not accusations, not guess work, but actual facts.

Response by SSG Michael Hartsfield made Aug 28 at 2016 10:11 AM

SSG Michael Hartsfield — Sun, 28 Aug 2016 10:11:14 -0400

If that is your gauge, then there are several counties in Texas, Kentucky, Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, and Arkansas just to name a few that would fall into that category and those areas, although they aren't major cities, are still Republican strongholds and have some of the highest poverty rates in America. Also, it's not the inner city where you find people relying on public assistance to get by, but rural America

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 28 at 2016 10:20 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 28 Aug 2016 10:20:22 -0400

Voting should be as it is- for Citizens. There should not be a litmus test concerning taxes or otherwise. With that said, and I know this will start a small fire, you do realize that thee are voting Dems and Repubs who profit from "living off the system" both rich and poor. This is a not a liberal thing or a conservative thing- its a socioeconomic thing which does not have an easy fix in the short or long term due to certain ideologies, our nations own economic standing and a host of other mitigating factors which makes such a feat in itself.

Policies on both sides of the aisle has helped and has been detrimental to our poor and has been as such for quite some time. A simple fact- you will always have poor people, you will always have people mooching off of the system and most of all you will have well meaning policies which do not always work out the way it is intended.

I would also like to point out that that (now this is just my recollection here) the people you most likely see (or not), you likely hear about (or not) with the fancy cars and such living off the "system" most likely make up approximately less than 1%- ok I will be generous and say 2% , but get 90% of the visibility which in turn skewers our perceptions. That last part was just some mental food for thought.

Response by CW4 Guy Butler made Aug 28 at 2016 12:06 PM

CW4 Guy Butler — Sun, 28 Aug 2016 12:06:45 -0400

Interesting question. Here's a different spin on this:

"Are taxpayers that take advantage of many deductions and credits carrying their fair share of the tax burden? Or are they cheating the system by finding tax loopholes to weasel out of their tax liabilities? The tax system we have doesn’t always seem fair, and the best way to make it fair is to lobby our elected representatives for true tax reform to ensure the tax burden is shared equitably among all taxpayers.

Some taxpayers can earn over $100,000 and still manage to pay zero tax. Ignoring issues of fairness, it is financially prudent to take any available tax deductions and credits for which you qualify."

https://blog.personalcapital.com/financial-planning-2/average-american-pay-no-taxes/

How Can The Average American Pay No Taxes?

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Response by SFC George Smith made Aug 28 at 2016 12:32 PM

SFC George Smith — Sun, 28 Aug 2016 12:32:50 -0400

Voting is a Right for USA Citizens Only...
There should Be No registration for Foreigners and illegal Immigrants Resident Aliens or resident Aliens...
Just try to visit another country and Vote... "
And remember... 72% of the Advanced Nations around the World "Require !!!" Valid Voter ID..." and Mexico Issues Personal Photo Voter IDs... So Why is There a Problem Here...

Response by MSgt Michael Smith made Aug 28 at 2016 9:46 PM

MSgt Michael Smith — Sun, 28 Aug 2016 21:46:14 -0400

And republicans run the 10 poorest states in the USA. So what?