Should this forum be limited to political correctness when talking?

Cpl Toby Dodd — Sat, 21 Nov 2015 13:03:42 -0500

I've been warned, again. I've been flagged, again. I'm too naughty for this forum.

Response by LTC Stephen F. made Nov 21 at 2015 1:06 PM

LTC Stephen F. — Sat, 21 Nov 2015 13:06:29 -0500

No this forum be not be limited political correctness because political correctness is a continually moving target Cpl Toby Dodd :-)
I was fined 10,000 points a month or two ago, I have had about 10 discussions deleted because I violated a policy which was not enforced uniformly.
I have learned to adjust under constrained circumstances.
I recommend you hang in here. There are others who have been where you are and we are trying to improve communication and exercise our responsibilities to enjoy ourselves here without offending people on purpose. Accidental offenses should not be penalized in my opinion.

Response by Cpl Toby Dodd made Nov 21 at 2015 1:07 PM

Cpl Toby Dodd — Sat, 21 Nov 2015 13:07:26 -0500

Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 21 at 2015 1:10 PM

SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 21 Nov 2015 13:10:28 -0500

I believe it should allow all participants to be themselves, so that we can have a true heart-to-heart debate and fellowship.

Response by PV2 Scott Goodpasture made Nov 21 at 2015 1:14 PM

PV2 Scott Goodpasture — Sat, 21 Nov 2015 13:14:33 -0500

Response by SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA made Nov 21 at 2015 1:21 PM

SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA — Sat, 21 Nov 2015 13:21:33 -0500

I don't think we are limited to political correctness here on RP. We have a wide range of opinions expressed, and that's great. This is a professional network, and we do have various rules governing interactions on the site. You can find them here, in RP 3-1: http://rly.pt/RP3-1
If you have any questions about the rules or anything else, feel free to contact me or any of the other admins. We love to help.

RP 3-1 Proper Participation and Use of the RallyPoint Answers Forum.pdf

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 21 at 2015 1:27 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 21 Nov 2015 13:27:32 -0500

Whatever you say, I'll agree with. Just don't kill me. It's like the rest of your body is attached to your arm.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 21 at 2015 1:47 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 21 Nov 2015 13:47:32 -0500

Respectful, yes. PC, no.

Response by PO2 Jacob Schrier made Nov 21 at 2015 1:55 PM

PO2 Jacob Schrier — Sat, 21 Nov 2015 13:55:57 -0500

Pretty sure the document we all swore to uphold and defend demands we not censor ourselves in a veterans only forum.

Response by LTC Bink Romanick made Nov 21 at 2015 2:20 PM

LTC Bink Romanick — Sat, 21 Nov 2015 14:20:03 -0500

Cpl Toby Dodd No it's not political correctness. You're rude, ill mannered and boorish. Maybe if you show other forum members some respect, you'd more acceptable .

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 21 at 2015 2:26 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 21 Nov 2015 14:26:40 -0500

I think where things went South in the "pathetic times" thread was the overt disrespect to the President. There are a lot of strong opinions out there on current events. God knows I have them too. But there are a lot of current service members on this site that can find themselves in big trouble for putting their personal opinions out on the internet.
Once that conversation got going, the usual suspects started tossing around vitriol at other members and the whole thing went to hell.
It is ok to have a controversial position, and this is as good a place to air it as any. We just have to stay away from attacking the person, and keep the debate on the subject matter. I was a little surprised that thread survived admin scrutiny as long as it did.
Too bad. I was looking forward to reading responses to my post. Oh well.

Response by SSgt Christopher Brose made Nov 21 at 2015 2:32 PM

SSgt Christopher Brose — Sat, 21 Nov 2015 14:32:55 -0500

Ideally, this would be a free-wheeling discussion group that could look beyond things like insults and coarse phrasing -- a little colorful language could be a very valid means of making a point. The problem is most people are too distracted by it. Say something the wrong way, and suddenly the discussion is not about the point you made but about how you made it.

One of my life mottos is "What you believe is only as good as why you believe it." So I am used to assessing the reasons for what I believe, and comparing them to the reasons other people have for believing what they believe. Usually, I conclude my reasons are better, but not always.

In the context of discussion, it means I am used to presenting my arguments with as much reason and persuasion as I can muster. Often, the person I am responding to might be a lost cause, but objective 3rd parties reading my words are more likely to be swayed by them if I present a solid argument and do not distract from it.

People are free to express themselves how they want, but our choice of expression has consequences. Even on a forum like this, we have the freedom to f-bomb, insult, use racist epitaphs, etc... and then the mods then have the freedom to limit our access or ban us altogether.

Ultimately, it comes down to which consequences you are willing to accept for your right to say what you want to say, how you want to say it. If your goal is some emotional release, then perhaps a tirade is an appropriate outlet. If your goal is to persuade people to your way of thinking, tirades aren't advisable.

Response by SGT Francis Wright made Nov 21 at 2015 2:36 PM

SGT Francis Wright — Sat, 21 Nov 2015 14:36:26 -0500

Just tell it like it is.

Response by SGM Steve Wettstein made Nov 21 at 2015 3:56 PM

SGM Steve Wettstein — Sat, 21 Nov 2015 15:56:17 -0500

There are ways to get your point across and not being a dick while doing it.

Response by LCpl Mark Lefler made Nov 21 at 2015 4:37 PM

LCpl Mark Lefler — Sat, 21 Nov 2015 16:37:46 -0500

The issue isn't about being PC, its about being respectful and adult. Your rant about "pathetic times" went beyond having an opinion to something a spoiled child would write. Was that really the kind of thing you'd want the CMC or your employer or your mother to read?

Response by Cpl Luis Hernandez made Mar 12 at 2016 11:11 AM

Cpl Luis Hernandez — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 11:11:49 -0500

Thanks. Last time I'm here. Don't need the RALLYPOINT PD looking over my shoulder. 2nd time I log onto here