Should Texas students be required to say Mexican Pledge of Allegiance?

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 00:54:25 -0400

http://www.wfaa.com/story/local/2014/11/01/13811384/

You just can't make this stuff up. After watching the story, what is your reaction? Again like the former Marine who gets banned from his daughter's High School, we seem to be seeing a very aggressive attitude against American Exceptionalism and this is supported by President Obama.

What are your feelings about this and what would be your response?

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Nov 1 at 2014 1:06 AM

SFC Mark Merino — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 01:06:35 -0400

This better be fake news.

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Nov 1 at 2014 1:10 AM

SFC Mark Merino — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 01:10:15 -0400

Or not...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/27/american-student-punished-refusing-recite-mexican-/

American student punished for refusing to recite Mexican pledge of allegiance?

A Texas high school has filed a federal lawsuit against her school after her Spanish teacher allegedly gave her a failing grade for refusing to recite the Mexican pledge of allegiance.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 1 at 2014 1:32 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 01:32:06 -0400

I truly wish it was not true. But we have seen many examples of people being offened with Americans being American. I just don't understand the mentality of those on the extreme left who are disgusted with America and feel we need to cater to all but Americans. Then there is the big push to naturalize illegals with amnesty when there have been surveys and studies that show many legal immigrants choose not to seek naturalization. I'm just afraid they will not stop until they destroy the America we know. Although some may disagree, this administration has been very destructive of American values.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 1 at 2014 2:47 AM

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 02:47:34 -0400

If they're not required to say the American pledge why would they be required to say the Mexican pledge?

Response by 1LT Nick Kidwell made Nov 1 at 2014 4:10 AM

1LT Nick Kidwell — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 04:10:22 -0400

Thinking like a teacher, it sounds like the original intent was a learning experience and cultural awareness, but without fully vetting the lesson as to whether or not it might be misconstrued.

My question is: was the student being required to say the pledge and sing the anthem as though she were ACTUALLY pledging allegiance to and showing patriotism for los Estados Unidos Mexicanos, or was she simply being asked to recite Spanish words that are generally meaningless to an American?

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 1 at 2014 7:13 AM

SCPO Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 07:13:48 -0400

I can see learning the national anthem of Spain, Mexico, or another Spanish-speaking country in a Spanish class. Back in the '60s and '70s when I was learning French in Elementary and High School we did learn some of the lyrics of the Marseillaise. The pledge is more curious, although I wonder if the Mexican one is taken from the same basic text created by Francis Bellamy that ours has - if that is the case, then maybe the idea was to learn the foreign language version of an already familiar text. Nonetheless, I'd have picked a less sensitize text to do that with - movie scenes, popular songs, etc.. that have been translated into Spanish.

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Nov 1 at 2014 7:18 AM

MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 07:18:37 -0400

What country does Texas CURRENTLY belong to????????

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Nov 1 at 2014 7:21 AM

MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 07:21:37 -0400

Teachers can't even force students to recite our own pledge but they can fail someone for not reciting another country's pledge whether its part of school work or not??? WTF??

Response by SrA Marc Haynes made Nov 1 at 2014 7:37 AM

SrA Marc Haynes — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 07:37:47 -0400

This is a big issue with me. I am vehemently opposed to letting any group of people that came here illegally but ahead of people that did so legally.

It may be that I see a conspiracy in this but it seems to me that this is a beachhead in a campaign. A campaign in the "mexicanation" of the U.S. Another example of this is the school district in California banning students wearing patriotic U.S. Shirts during Cinco de mayo. Did everyone else notice the Hispanic politician so no problem with it?

I think that this amnesty is going to lead to the decimation of the current culture in this country. I'm all for diversity here in the U.S. but not forced indoctrination at the expense of all other cultural groups.

I applaud the young ladies resolve and courage. I say not only no but hell no to any such educational plans in any classrooms in this country.

Response by SFC William Swartz Jr made Nov 1 at 2014 8:01 AM

SFC William Swartz Jr — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 08:01:56 -0400

I would refuse to do either as well, consequences and controversy be damned!!

Response by Cpl Glynis Sakowicz made Nov 1 at 2014 8:25 AM

Cpl Glynis Sakowicz — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 08:25:59 -0400

It never fails to amaze me.... I mean, if a person illegally tries to live in Mexico, its a prison term... not jail, and a lawyer, then deportation... I mean a long, hard prison term. You cannot own property, you cannot work, and G-d help you if you break their laws while there on a visit even.
That said, now you might begin to understand just a tiny bit of my feelings when I hear this. You want to say the Mexican pledge, go to Mexico, this is America, we say OUR pledge.
I was raised to be proud of who and what I am, and in this day and age, I often wonder if I should appologize to whatever hyphenated American is around me, when the National Anthem is sung, and frankly I'm a little tired and confused by it all. When did America, the great melting pot of all peoples, become the land of "You get here, you change us to suit you"?
I suppose I am just getting too old for this, because I still remember a country that was proud of itself, and delighted to welcome others who wanted to be a part of our country... Instead, we've become a place where immigrants come, settle among themselves, and demand we obey the laws that made them run from their own countries in the first place.... WTF????
If it comes to pass that Texas walks away from America, I will pack my muscle rub, my old UD's, combat boots, and take my place among them, because I am old enough to recall a country that was proud of itself, and the new beginnings it fostered, and I want that for my grandson.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 1 at 2014 9:41 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 09:41:51 -0400

No, NO and HELL NO!!! This is the United States of America. It's not Mexico, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Honduras, etc. Each country has it's own national anthem and several have their own pledges.

Response by CMSgt James Nolan made Nov 1 at 2014 9:44 AM

CMSgt James Nolan — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 09:44:38 -0400

Whichever school administrator that came up with that should be fired. The children who refused should be hailed as young American heroes.

Response by MSG Brad Sand made Nov 1 at 2014 11:35 AM

MSG Brad Sand — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 11:35:51 -0400

If it was Mexico, I would say it might be a problem. IF it is a question of following the direction of the instructor...I might be willing to listen. I MIGHT be willing to listen.

Response by Cpl Thomas Mcdonough made Nov 1 at 2014 12:09 PM

Cpl Thomas Mcdonough — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 12:09:20 -0400

NO, WE SHOULD NOT HAVE SCHOOL CHILDREN PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO ANY OTHER COUNTRIES...ENOUGH SAID....

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 1 at 2014 12:21 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 12:21:57 -0400

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member, thanks for bringing this to the attention of the RP community. This is close to the story of the students in California who flew the Mexican flag over (OVER) the American flag and flew the American flag upside down. Positively brutal. I don't see how even the most liberal person could defend the flag incident. I'm sure they would try. Freedom of speech and all. (http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/m/montebello-flag.htm#.VFUHePnF8Qo)

This incident you pointed us to is similar, but I can understand the argument that it was part of a school lesson. I think the students should not have stood and "saluted" (presumably the Mexican flag?). That's just wrong. No place for it. Especially not when there are nuts out there who refuse to pledge allegiance to the American flag. (Again, freedom of speech.)

My take on this is that the school should change that particular assignment and change it drastically. If the teacher feels led to teach her students the Mexican anthem and pledge, they should do it (first of all) seated. Maybe make it an extra credit assignment, I don't know. I do know the American (well, one hopes) students should not be required or even asked to pledge allegiance to the Mexican flag with their arms raised in a salute (to the flag, I presume). That is just plain wrong. And it doesn't really matter whether it's an academic assignment or not.

There's a line, and the teacher crossed it.

U.S. flag flying upside down and below Mexican flag-Truth!

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Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 1 at 2014 1:01 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 13:01:40 -0400

That's just stupid. Texas isn't in Mexico, and if students there aren't American citizens, they supposedly are trying to be. It's one thing to be proud of your heritage if you came from somewhere else. It's another to promote nationalism for a country other than the one you live in. There should be absolutely ZERO reason to pledge allegiance to Mexico or its flag. I don't care if it's part of a "lesson." Students can read about it, they shouldn't have to actually do it. Anyone who thinks they should do so should move to Mexico and give up any rights, current or future, to American citizenship.

Response by Cpl Ray Fernandez made Nov 1 at 2014 7:37 PM

Cpl Ray Fernandez — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 19:37:22 -0400

Nobody should be forced to pledge allegiance against their will, especially if that allegiance is to a foreign nation for any reason.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 1 at 2014 8:36 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 20:36:37 -0400

Not just No but Hell No we are not citizens of Mexico and all Mexican Flags should be banned from all official locations and flag poles except for at the Mexican Embassy. The wearing of Mexican flags on clothing or display of any other national flags except for the United States flag and the Texas State flag should be banned from all schools and any student or teacher that displays any banned flag should be expelled for the rest of the year and be ineligible for promotion or graduation this includes all colleges and Universities.

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 1 at 2014 11:29 PM

PO2 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 23:29:42 -0400

This would be a tad bit over the top.

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Nov 1 at 2014 11:34 PM

SSG (ret) William Martin — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 23:34:47 -0400

The answer is not simply "no" but "fudge no". If students are going to say the Pledge of Allegiance they can go to Mexico. I am not sure if this is about being PC or having sensitivities to foreign nationals or citizens with Mexican roots but we can't even get out children to say the our POA because it might offend someone.

Response by TSgt William Lounsbery made Nov 2 at 2014 12:54 PM

TSgt William Lounsbery — Sun, 02 Nov 2014 12:54:22 -0500

Learning the Spanish language does not require the recitation of the Mexican pledge or National Anthem. You can learn the Mexican culture by having a lesson on their means of patriotism but to require a student to recite as part of the grade is too much. We studied the cultures and Spanish language without these, we learned seasonal songs, followed their way of celebration of certain holidays during our Spanish class. We even went to Mexico, during our spring break to experience life and history of Mexico. There are more appropriate ways to teach our children the language and ways of another culture.

Response by SGT Bryon Sergent made Nov 4 at 2014 12:54 PM

SGT Bryon Sergent — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 12:54:52 -0500

I say that if you want to fly the Mexican flag, then go back where you came from. Oh, wait you where being oppressed and wanted a better life for your family. I get it! Then you move to America, suck or country dry of the things that the people in Washington are giving for free. Then get a job, illegally and then be able to get all of the benefits of that country that even the Citizens usually can't get. Then send all the money you make to Mexico to your family, and still get to vote for the MORONS that are letting you do it. hum, not a bad deal why on earth would I move back there when they have the cake and get to eat it.

Close the Mexican boarders, kick them the F out! You want what we have, then go it LEGALLY! Work for it, not steal it. SPEAK ENGLISH! Don't like it leave, we should by them the ticket or put a inter tube under there butt and send them out the way they came in. Across the river!

Response by MAJ Dallas D. made Nov 4 at 2014 2:39 PM

MAJ Dallas D. — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 14:39:40 -0500

NO!!!!! Texas I thought you were better than this!!!!

This reminds me of the student in California that was expelled for wearing a US Flag t-shirt on May 5th.

What I have never understood is hey you left Mexico (Insert Country Here) because you didn't like it and came to the United States (Legally or Illegally) We did not ask you to come here but if you keep trying to change everything here what do you think the odds are the USA becomes what you left?

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 4 at 2014 3:06 PM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 15:06:59 -0500

Excuse the language, but HELL NO!!! This is the US of A. If you want to say the Mexican Pledge of Allegiance in school then go back across the border!!!

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 4 at 2014 3:27 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 15:27:53 -0500

I am still tryint to figure out why the students have to pledge allegence to Texas. Is it a dfferent country?

I guess, in the eyes of Texas, the United States is not "indivisable".

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 4 at 2014 3:37 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 15:37:40 -0500

I have a few suggestions for those who think we should not be patriotic. Take your butts to a biker bar and say that. I am sure that they would buy you a round of beer or give their bikes to you. Maybe they would sing sounds about Mother Russia or praise ms-13 OR the Mexican Mafia. lol Come on man!!!!

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 4 at 2014 4:02 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 16:02:03 -0500

Hell no! Texas residents aren't part of mexico. Its like trying to force a language on someone.

Response by SSG V. Michelle Woods made Nov 4 at 2014 4:44 PM

SSG V. Michelle Woods — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 16:44:06 -0500

FAT CHANCE!!!

Perhaps a lesson on the Battle of San Jacinto is in order ;)

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 4 at 2014 6:00 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 18:00:19 -0500

I don't think any American should be required to pledge their allegiance to any other nation. As service members we are required to salute during another nation's national anthem but they also salute during ours so I guess it's ok. But teaching our children to pledge their allegiance to Mexico sounds to me like indoctrination.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 4 at 2014 6:24 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 18:24:29 -0500

I definitely do NOT agree with this! This is the United States of America and our pledge should be the only pledge required to recite. Our country is so worried about political correctness that we are losing our identity...

Response by SPC James Mcneil made Nov 4 at 2014 6:53 PM

SPC James Mcneil — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 18:53:34 -0500

I thought we won that war. J/S...

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 4 at 2014 7:29 PM

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 19:29:39 -0500

I think this is building a mountain from a molehill.

This was a lesson in the culture of the language being taught. When I was being taught German in High School, I learned about German culture to include the flag and their pledge.

This was an assignment to learn the pledge to understand their culture. What this was not, was the student being required to pledge allegiance to Mexico.

I understand the position of the student and her father, but again, Mountains out of Molehills.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 4 at 2014 7:34 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 19:34:01 -0500

Why are we even asking this question? We live in America, where we are apparently not even supposed to say the American Pledge of Allegiance because it says "God" in it, but we are being asked to say another countries Pledge?

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Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 4 at 2014 7:46 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Nov 2014 19:46:54 -0500

I can't say this Loud enough, NO!!!!!!!

Response by CPT Jason Torpy made Nov 5 at 2014 12:23 PM

CPT Jason Torpy — Wed, 05 Nov 2014 12:23:30 -0500

You don't have to say the US Pledge of Allegiance so this seems like a trumped-up controversy about not saying the Mexican Pledge.

Response by Cpl Shawn Hueter made Nov 5 at 2014 7:03 PM

Cpl Shawn Hueter — Wed, 05 Nov 2014 19:03:23 -0500

This is stupid. I am really starting to hate this country and how this current adminstration is destroying this country.

Response by LTC Paul Labrador made Nov 5 at 2014 8:11 PM

LTC Paul Labrador — Wed, 05 Nov 2014 20:11:12 -0500

Uhm....WHAT?!?!?!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 5 at 2014 8:36 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 05 Nov 2014 20:36:28 -0500

it's annoying

Response by CPT Gary Wilkins made Nov 5 at 2014 10:23 PM

CPT Gary Wilkins — Wed, 05 Nov 2014 22:23:08 -0500

Absolutely NOT!!

Response by CPT Gary Wilkins made Nov 5 at 2014 10:26 PM

CPT Gary Wilkins — Wed, 05 Nov 2014 22:26:19 -0500

Absolutely NOT. A totally unacceptable proposal, it is treasonous. The individuals who proposed this should be denuded of their US citizenship and deported to Mexico, where they can give the Mexican version of the Pledge of Allegiance to their heart's content.

Response by PO3 Camille Romero made Nov 5 at 2014 11:18 PM

PO3 Camille Romero — Wed, 05 Nov 2014 23:18:47 -0500

I think Teddy Roosevelt said it pretty well:

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Nov 6 at 2014 12:31 AM

SFC Mark Merino — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 00:31:09 -0500

Viva crazy people!

Response by SPC Richard White made Nov 6 at 2014 2:05 AM

SPC Richard White — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 02:05:35 -0500

Oh boy,what a question.I grew up in Albuquerque,N.M. and the Elementary I went to was Dolores Gonzales.We were educated with Mexican culture.I do remember learning the pledge of allegiance in Spanish but we said it in English in the beginning of the school day.From what I know it is not even required for a student now to recite the pledge of allegiance.It is good for a student to learn culture.However I don't think they should be forced to say it.Until Texas becomes its own nation again then I say no.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 6 at 2014 7:19 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 07:19:12 -0500

Don't texans already say two pledges everyday? One to the country and the other to the state of texas?

Response by LCpl Rick Ponton made Nov 6 at 2014 7:39 AM

LCpl Rick Ponton — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 07:39:32 -0500

SOME OF THESE PEOPLE COME HERE AND DO NOT HAVE MARINE CORPS. PRIDE OR AMERICAN PRIDE THEY HAVE PIDE IN MEXICO ANDFLY THE MEXICAN FLAG WHEN THEY SHOULD BE FLYING THE AMERICAN FLAG THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AT LEAST I THINK SO

Response by LTC Scott O'Neil made Nov 6 at 2014 9:31 AM

LTC Scott O'Neil — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 09:31:12 -0500

OK this question really hit a nerve, if people from other countries want to come to America and become Americans, I get it. Now look where they are, in AMERICA! What schools are they going to, AMERICAN! I know that the melting-pot of nationalities that make up AMERICA, are the backbone that makes this nation great. Ok, then those who come here need to learn ENGLISH and not dictate that this nation accommodate to them and their language or heritage and when they become AMERICANS they are no longer African Americans, Irish American or Mexican Americans; they are Americans and as far as I know there is only one AMERICAN Anthem or Pledge of Allegiance! They can only vocalize one allegiance, TO THE UNITED STAES OF AMERICA as that is where they are and the nationality they accepted. If they want to say the Pledge of allegiance for their old country, go back or say it silently to themselves.
Outright and with indignant tone, NO other Allegiance should be stated in an AMERICAN school or in AMERICA period.

Response by LTC Scott O'Neil made Nov 6 at 2014 9:43 AM

LTC Scott O'Neil — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 09:43:14 -0500

OK, people. This is America and yes the first Amendment gives us the freedom of speech, but to force an AMERICAN to state the Pledge of Allegiance or sing the National Anthem of another country for the sake of sensitivity. I have to through out the BS card!!!!! This is America people, and the only Anthem or Pledge of Allegiance that should be said or sung is that of this nation. To say otherwise is to spit on the grave of every veteran who died or bled for this nation. Once people cross the boarder into the United States they are subject to our laws and our culture.

Like crossing into a Muslim country or South American counties I would be subject to their laws and culture. They do not bend the rules for me to be sensitive to Americans.

One Anthem and one Pledge of Allegiance and it is that of the United States of America! Point end of conversation, for those who think otherwise leave my country.

Response by CPL(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 6 at 2014 9:51 AM

CPL(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 09:51:32 -0500

My rank can't handle what I'd like to say about this subject.

Response by SGT Dennis Montgomery made Nov 6 at 2014 11:53 AM

SGT Dennis Montgomery — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 11:53:57 -0500

this is ridiculous, not no but, (keeping it PG) heck no! When Mexico takes back Texas then we will recite the Mexican pledge!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 6 at 2014 2:51 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 14:51:27 -0500

Wait. What did I just read? I'm flabbergasted.

Response by PO1 Walter Duncan made Nov 6 at 2014 3:24 PM

PO1 Walter Duncan — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 15:24:04 -0500

This is the stuff of nightmares where kids don't say our Pledge of Allegiance, but the Mexican Pledge is being said at a school in this country. Something is wrong when another countries pledge is being said in an American school. If it is being said as part of a Spanish Class, OK. If not - I would be one pissed off parent.

Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 6 at 2014 4:05 PM

SrA Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 16:05:47 -0500

OMG, why? No, no, no.

Response by SGT Frank Leonardo made Nov 6 at 2014 4:36 PM

SGT Frank Leonardo — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 16:36:42 -0500

No this is the USA not mexico as far as I am concerned.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 6 at 2014 5:51 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 17:51:19 -0500

Hell no.

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 6 at 2014 6:42 PM

CSM Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 18:42:07 -0500

Ok this is tough I am trying to figure out how to say this with out making anyone but hurt. Is Mexico paying for the school in Texas Are they paying for the teachers and for their students to attend. The short answer is NO then.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 6 at 2014 10:55 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 22:55:39 -0500

Did Texas secede and become part of Mexico again? No? Ok, there's that answer. 'Murica!

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Nov 6 at 2014 11:06 PM

SFC Mark Merino — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 23:06:44 -0500

That's it! I'm hopping the border and crossing over into Mexico illegally.

Response by SPC Bryan Menduni made Nov 7 at 2014 6:53 AM

SPC Bryan Menduni — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 06:53:56 -0500

Infuriating!

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 7 at 2014 10:07 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 10:07:16 -0500

Some of these newer threads tend to have a very harsh perception of America and that worries me. Furthermore I am seeing no respect for what has transpired over the past week or so. It is one thing to be disappointed but America has spoken. Perhaps it will swing the other way in 2 years, time will only tell but it is disrespectful to come here and pose such anti-American rhetoric, finding issues that ONLY denigrate America and for what? This??

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 7 at 2014 10:27 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 10:27:33 -0500

I always take what the media says with a grain of salt. Discounting the sensationalism that the media, by default, adds to anything that may appear he least bit inflammatory (and thus, increase circulation/revenue/sales) let's dissect this. If the teacher encouraged the students to learn the Mexican anthem/pledge of allegiance (and I'll give her credit that the nearest Hispanic neighbor is Mexico) that is not a bad thing. It gives one awareness of another nation's national pride and it also helps in learning the language. To ask them to take a segment, recite it, and explain what it may mean to a Mexican, I would say great! When I took Spanish and German in school we learned their anthems (in Germany's case two of them at the time) and learned how the anthems came about.

I think the friction point is when the teacher directed the students to stand up and recite the pledge as if they were Mexicans. That is wrong. In talking with several seasoned educators (HS and College) their consensus was the teacher is attempting to normalize reciting the Mexican pledge and anthem by making them go through the rituals associated with a Mexican saying the anthem/pledge. They were very uncomfortable with that behavior. I concur.

Giving the teacher the benefit of the doubt that they meant well I say "great idea, lousy execution"

Response by LTJG Robert M. made Nov 7 at 2014 10:41 AM

LTJG Robert M. — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 10:41:59 -0500

Oh . . Hell No!

Response by PO3 Brendan "Smitty" Smith made Nov 7 at 2014 11:47 AM

PO3 Brendan "Smitty" Smith — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 11:47:33 -0500

1) It's a Spanish class. Not a Mexican Heritage class.
2) Even if it was a Mexican Heritage class; A) Spanish is not the native language and B) that does not give the teacher the right to have citizens of the U.S. Pledge Allegiance to any other country. C) You can teach about another country's culture without doing this.
3) Young Brenda was right to refuse and is right to stand her ground. Good for her. It was just a shame she was the only one in the class brave enough to do so.

Response by SSgt Robert Clark made Nov 7 at 2014 12:32 PM

SSgt Robert Clark — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 12:32:38 -0500

As an American citizen, as a veteran, as a Texan and as the parent of 2 children I say hell no. Standing and pledging allegiance to another countries flag while on U.S. soil is treason, don't give a crap what any school district says.
If school districts want to give a written document of another countries pledge and then compare/contrast to our pledge that's fine, that's a valid study of history. But to force/require students to pledge to another country is unacceptable.

Response by SPC Dean J. Thompson made Nov 7 at 2014 12:34 PM

SPC Dean J. Thompson — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 12:34:41 -0500

Not only do I say NO! It's Hell NO! Texas is part of the United States of America so the only pledge they should be reciting is the pledge to the U.S.A. like I did when I was a child and still do to this day.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 7 at 2014 2:38 PM

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 14:38:34 -0500

No, fargin' way! No fargin' icehole teacher better be teaching any pledge that isn't OUR nation's. And when it happened I sent a nasty gram to the district superintendent.

Response by Cpl Gregory Hajder made Nov 7 at 2014 3:20 PM

Cpl Gregory Hajder — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 15:20:29 -0500

F*%@ No! If you live in the United States of America and are a citizen of the United States of America, and are using all the resorces of the United States of America, Then You pledge your allegiance to the United States of America.

Response by SN Jennifer M. made Nov 7 at 2014 4:03 PM

SN Jennifer M. — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 16:03:51 -0500

Umm no. I think I would pull my kids out of school personally.

Response by PO1 Michael Fullmer made Nov 7 at 2014 4:52 PM

PO1 Michael Fullmer — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 16:52:25 -0500

Who are you kidding?! Not only is the answer NO, but it shouldn't even be a question. That's just plain dumb.

Response by Sgt Jonathan Davis made Nov 7 at 2014 5:54 PM

Sgt Jonathan Davis — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 17:54:54 -0500

I'm a teacher now and I think this shouldn't go further than a severe reprimand for the teacher. The system is set up where teachers submit lesson plans that are often very vague about the exact material that will be discussed that school officials overlook. It is usually just to make sure that the teacher is doing more than nothing and staying on track.

I don't really like that this sort of title makes the content more sensational than it actually is. This is a case where one Spanish teacher in one school at one school district, acted independently to try to create a Spanish Lesson where she made a horribly poor choice in the matter of how to help educate her Spanish class. This isn't a case where all students across the Midwest are being forced swear allegiance to a foreign power. Realistically, it only affected about 20 or so students at the most. Keeping that reality in mind, it serves more value as a warning to other teachers in linguistics on what is and is not appropriate in the future than it does in showcasing the downfall of American society.

That said, a completely inappropriate lesson was created by a teacher who obviously doesn't have the same values as most of us here, but it really shouldn't go much further beyond actions against the individual teacher involved. I honestly feel like all the media this story has brought up has probably done more harm to innocent administrators than is warranted, who were likely just as shocked as the rest of us and with little control over knowing what was going to come out her mouth as well.

Response by Sgt Jay Jones made Nov 7 at 2014 9:35 PM

Sgt Jay Jones — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 21:35:48 -0500

I feel this is totally inappropriate. We don't pledge allegiance to Canada. I see Mexico as no different. If somebody wants to pledge allegiance to Mexico, go to Mexico and live there.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 7 at 2014 10:19 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 22:19:56 -0500

As a Texan by birth I say absolutely not!

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2014 1:39 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 01:39:27 -0500

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member And in this country we get parents marginalized for even bringing it up. The idea was so absurd and when called out on it, they are marginalized and considered willing dupes. Come on now!!! SSgt Private RallyPoint Member CMSgt James Nolan SSG Maurice P. PO2 Ed C.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2014 5:47 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 05:47:01 -0500

A Texas high school student has filed a federal lawsuit against her school after her Spanish teacher allegedly gave her a failing grade for refusing to recite the Mexican pledge of allegiance.

The lawsuit says the McAllen Independent School District violated 15-year-old girl Brenda Brinsdon’s constitutional rights, saying that the “Supreme Court forbids teachers from compelling schoolchildren to pledge their allegiance to a country.”

The complaint also states that the student was not allowed to recite the American Pledge of Allegiance in Spanish in front of the class as an alternative assignment. The teacher, Reyna Santos, gave her a different assignment on the Independence of Mexico to which she received 13 out of 100 points.

The school district has a policy that prohibits a school from compelling students to recite the American Pledge of Allegiance or text from the Declaration of Independence if the student “as determined by the district, has a conscientious objection to the recitation,” Fox News’ Todd Starnes reports.

“What’s most troubling is the different treatment for someone wanting to opt out of reciting the American Pledge of Allegiance compared to someone as a matter of conscience wants to opt out of reciting the Mexican pledge,” Thomas More Law Center spokesman Erin Mersino

American student punished for refusing to recite Mexican pledge of allegiance?

A Texas high school has filed a federal lawsuit against her school after her Spanish teacher allegedly gave her a failing grade for refusing to recite the Mexican pledge of allegiance.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2014 5:51 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 05:51:02 -0500

This is not the first lawsuit involving how patriotism should be handled in the classroom. In June of last year, a teenager and her mother, Carolyn Raja, and the American Civil Liberties Union took on the Brownsville, Texas, school district after the student was forced to stand during the U.S. pledge of allegiance.

In that case, Judge Mark Hornak ruled that students have a constitutional right to pass on reciting the pledge. Coincidentally, some states, such as Michigan, have passed laws requiring students to pledge allegiance to the flag each day.

In the McAllen case, the school allows students to opt out of the pledge of allegiance. Whether the school retaliated against Brenda for opting out of the Mexican anthem is still unclear.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2014 5:56 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 05:56:27 -0500

There is no way in Hell than I would allow for this travesty to happen and although she was given an alternative assignment, she still failed. Once again, regardless of who did what when, there is a huge inconsistency and pretty much affirms the inane nature of Nationalism that runs contrary to the state of Texas and to the nation.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2014 6:10 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 06:10:47 -0500

http://freebeacon.com/politics/chicago-dem-alderman-attempted-to-buy-votes/

And this followed after Fortune had an article saying Mississippi was the most corrupt state. And here we have Chicago and an investigation into the intent of this program.

Chicago Dem Alderman Attempted to Buy Votes

Democratic Alderman Leslie Hairston of Chicago's Fifth Ward is under fire after sheoffered her Facebook followers the chance to win prizes if they voted. Hairston's Facebook post told Fifth Ward

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2014 6:14 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 06:14:30 -0500

This is really alarming. When I first got stationed in TX and heard that students have to recite the Texas Pledge I think it is, I was confused at first but then thought of the history of Texas. THIS on the other is way over the left field wall. Nothing against the Mexican culture but it has no place in a public school system. And to gig a child for not saying it is ludacris at best. That teacher needs to reevaluate herself and her methods.

Response by SFC Boots Attaway made Nov 8 at 2014 10:51 AM

SFC Boots Attaway — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 10:51:38 -0500

If they say any pledge other than the US Pledge of Allegiance it should be the Texas Pledge of Allegiance. After all Texas won it's freedom from Mexico and joined the US by treaty and NOT by annexation. The Hispanic community needs to remember this and STOP trying to give Texas back to Mexico. Those that think the US stole land, caused slavery, caused genocide on the Native Americans (I claim my NA heritage) and is an imperialistic country need to watch Dinesh D'Souzas' movie "America, Imagine the World Without Her". I just bought it and it is a fantastic movie, even better than "An American Carol". So I have one thing to say to those who say that the US has done so many bad things, GET OVER IT AND GET A LIFE.

Response by SGT Thomas Lucken made Nov 8 at 2014 11:29 AM

SGT Thomas Lucken — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 11:29:55 -0500

F---------K NO!!!!!!! Only 2 words for an answer that come to mind for this question!!!!!!

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2014 3:06 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 15:06:37 -0500

I don't see other countries reciting the pledge of allegiance to the United States of America. So why should Americans do the same. A pledge of allegiance should be taken more seriously than mundan words spoken every day in our schools across America.

Response by LCpl Ed Mcgonigal made Nov 8 at 2014 4:33 PM

LCpl Ed Mcgonigal — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 16:33:48 -0500

not just no but hell no texas is not part of mexico anymore

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2014 7:18 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 19:18:31 -0500

I wouldn't agree with it at all.

Response by LCpl Scott Spencer made Nov 8 at 2014 7:28 PM

LCpl Scott Spencer — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 19:28:08 -0500

He'll no!!

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2014 7:41 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 19:41:19 -0500

So children aren't allowed to sing the National Anthem, yet they want to make it okay to sing the Mexican National Anthem? What is becoming of this country? I'm just baffled.

Response by PO2 Brian Lathe made Nov 8 at 2014 8:39 PM

PO2 Brian Lathe — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 20:39:30 -0500

Learning about another country, especially our neighboring countries is one thing. But we are not members or citizens of that country. We should not be taught to say their pledge of allegiance. I am proud to be an American.

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2014 9:12 PM

SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 21:12:30 -0500

This is a no brainer and I think I can say almost every other Service Veteran would say hell no to reciting another countries pledge of allegiance in OUR country on OUR soil! I have no problem with reciting their pledge if they had dual citizenship with Mexico and the USA. But for American citizens to be required to review the Mexican Pledge of allegiance instead of our pledge of allegiance is outrageous in my eyes.

Response by SGT Gregory Reilly made Nov 8 at 2014 9:29 PM

SGT Gregory Reilly — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 21:29:44 -0500

No!!! If you want to live in the UNITED STATES learn English and practice our customs. What's changed since the days of Ellis Island. You came to AMERICA and became an American not the other way around. If you don't like it, take a walk.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 9 at 2014 1:23 AM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 01:23:16 -0500

Absolutely not.

In some states Its hard enough to keep our own pledge around in schools. Why on earth would we say another counties pledge of ALLEGIANCE. Are you saying that this is really happening? I am really loosing all hope in this country. I should move to England, at least the British still respect their queen and don't say something like "god save the sultan" if a school has a high population of Indonesians.

God help America. (I better watch out I can't really say god anymore either)

~John

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 9 at 2014 1:41 AM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 01:41:53 -0500

first off, I'm some form of Hispanic and I have tons of friend who plaster Puerto Rican flags all over the place so I'm bound to be shot down for this comment. However, I really do find it funny how people will do anything, risk anything to leave their country but as soon as they are here and comfortable they want to preach country pride. That's like a Californian moving to Alaska and pouring sand and planting palm trees on their front lawn.

Just my two cents... and no i don't want a refund.

~John

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 9 at 2014 6:55 AM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 06:55:10 -0500

Well hopefully with Republicans taking back the house, we can bring America back to America

Response by SPC Cedar Bristol made Nov 9 at 2014 10:45 AM

SPC Cedar Bristol — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 10:45:07 -0500

Children can't sign checks, if you're old enough to remember those, and yet we tell them to recite a pledge of allegiance?

Political indoctrination of any kind in schools is counter productive.

Children are not Robots, reciting a pledge once a day, or even twice a day will not make them respect the constitution or the flag.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 9 at 2014 11:27 AM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 11:27:45 -0500

If this story is in fact true, anyone involved with requiring this should be fired and have their teaching credentials permanently revoked. If you wish to pledge allegiance to another country fine, renounce your US citizenship and move to that country, period.

Response by SGT Steve Williams made Nov 9 at 2014 11:46 AM

SGT Steve Williams — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 11:46:27 -0500

Certainly think it is fine for it to be 'taught', which is the same way I feel about our pledge, but students should not be 'required' to recite any pledge on a regular basis. Especially when they are too young to really understand the meaning of what they are reciting. IMO requiring such is nothing short of brainwashing.

Response by LCpl Steve Wininger made Nov 9 at 2014 12:55 PM

LCpl Steve Wininger — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 12:55:55 -0500

Only if they lived south of the border. Those who are trying to make students say the Mexican pledge should be deported. This is AMERICA, not Mexico.

Response by SPC Eric Wilde made Nov 9 at 2014 1:55 PM

SPC Eric Wilde — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 13:55:21 -0500

are they in this country?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 9 at 2014 5:04 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 17:04:59 -0500

Should Canadian border states be required to say the Canadian pledge of allegiance? Should Florida say the Cuban pledge of allegiance? Should Massachusetts say the Irish pledge of allegiance? This is ridiculous. This country just locked up one of our brothers in arms for making a wrong turn for how long? What do we owe this country? Their contribution lately has been drug wars and wrongful incarceration of an American citizen and Marine. This country has gone soft. It's disheartening.

Response by PO1 James Friedman made Nov 9 at 2014 5:10 PM

PO1 James Friedman — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 17:10:11 -0500

Not only NO, but HELL NO This is the United States, NOT Mexico. If they want to say the Mexican pledge they can go BACK to Mexico.

Response by Sgt Nick Marshall made Nov 9 at 2014 8:10 PM

Sgt Nick Marshall — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 20:10:37 -0500

If it's true, (which I seriously doubt), then no. My parents are English and to sing "God Save the Queen" in the US is absurd

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 10 at 2014 2:12 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 10 Nov 2014 02:12:43 -0500

No.

Response by 1LT Aaron Anderson made Nov 10 at 2014 8:59 AM

1LT Aaron Anderson — Mon, 10 Nov 2014 08:59:07 -0500

No child should be forced to swear fealty to any government. They didn't choose their country of birth and they can't enter into contracts until the age of majority.

Response by Cpl Aaron Nelson made Nov 10 at 2014 9:08 AM

Cpl Aaron Nelson — Mon, 10 Nov 2014 09:08:02 -0500

Absolutely not.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 10 at 2014 11:55 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:55:27 -0500

I was hoping this was the onion or the duffel bag blog.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 10 at 2014 3:01 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 10 Nov 2014 15:01:31 -0500

No...nuff said

Response by SPC(P) Samantha Moore made Nov 10 at 2014 5:02 PM

SPC(P) Samantha Moore — Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:02:06 -0500

No. We have the right to say or not say the pledge in the States. If I was a citizen of Mexico, I would want the same rights. However at the same time and out of respect, I would say the Mexican pledge if I were a citizen of Mexico.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 10 at 2014 7:03 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 10 Nov 2014 19:03:26 -0500

Good to know but not required

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 10 at 2014 9:26 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 10 Nov 2014 21:26:51 -0500

Absolutely not....we have a pledge that everyone student in America should be required to say.

I would add too....since there is no official language of the United States, it would be a hard argument to say everyone needs to speak english, but the pledge, the national anthem, those are no brainers.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 11 at 2014 8:32 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 11 Nov 2014 20:32:07 -0500

SSgt Rusty Baker Do you think kids should be forced to say another country's Pledge of Allegiance?

Response by SGT Artiesa Woods made Nov 12 at 2014 12:44 AM

SGT Artiesa Woods — Wed, 12 Nov 2014 00:44:10 -0500

This is unbelievable! The kicker is when the superintendent attempts to justify it by saying it was a one time thing and that they recite the US Pledge of Allegiance daily. I find it highly offensive to even ask an American citizen to recite the Pledge of Allegiance to another country! I applaud this young lady's conviction in standing up for what was right...outstanding young American!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2014 5:56 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 12 Nov 2014 17:56:59 -0500

Of course it shouldn't be required... nor, according to the article presented, was it ever required. The student seems to have been given an alternative assignment without any fuss.

The question that should have been asked is, should students be encouraged to say the Mexican Pledge of Allegiance? The answer to that question is definatly no... they should only be saying the US Pledge.

Response by SFC Vernon McNabb made Nov 13 at 2014 2:37 PM

SFC Vernon McNabb — Thu, 13 Nov 2014 14:37:09 -0500

Sólo en México

Response by Sgt Nick Marshall made Nov 13 at 2014 3:10 PM

Sgt Nick Marshall — Thu, 13 Nov 2014 15:10:35 -0500

Playing devils advocate here, ( I personally think it was a poor decision by the teacher) is it acceptable for students of Englush in foreign countries to say our pledge of allegiance in an effort to understand it's significance?

Response by TSgt Kristin Parsons made Nov 22 at 2014 3:03 PM

TSgt Kristin Parsons — Sat, 22 Nov 2014 15:03:04 -0500

Absolutely not! This is the United States of America. You don't see Americans demanding the Pledge of Allegiance be recited in Mexico or other countries. I'm personally sick and tired of illegal immigrants getting everything. You can even get a car without a license in Texas--"No license, no problem" is seen on some billboards.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 22 at 2014 3:06 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 22 Nov 2014 15:06:49 -0500

Response by SGT Patrick Abrams made Dec 13 at 2014 9:09 PM

SGT Patrick Abrams — Sat, 13 Dec 2014 21:09:10 -0500

Not only no but f@@k no. This is still the usa.

Response by TSgt Tim (lj) Littlejohn made Dec 13 at 2014 9:07 PM

TSgt Tim (lj) Littlejohn — Sat, 13 Dec 2014 21:07:12 -0500

Oh he!! no!! Also we should not have any bilingual classes being taught in this Country. If they came here legally, they came because this is the best Country in the world, with the most freedoms and the best way of life! If their way of life and laws are so great, go back.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 14 at 2014 12:28 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 14 Dec 2014 00:28:51 -0500

I am a born and raised Texan but i am hispanic also and i dont agree with pledging allegiance to another flag but the one we swore to protect. And i dont expect my kids to have to when we move back home or there would be hell to pay.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 14 at 2014 12:50 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 14 Dec 2014 00:50:55 -0500

Proud of Mexico but stealing across the border. How pitiable.

Response by CPO Rick Felty made Dec 16 at 2014 11:31 AM

CPO Rick Felty — Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:31:51 -0500

Hell nowe whooped thier ass in Texas for independence, it is about time that parents converge on the school boards, Pta Meetings, the Governors office n mass protest. Kick them out of office if they do not comply with. United States customs. Mexicans don't even speak English let alone obey the laws of this country. There is not going to be a total invasion. Of our standards !!!!!

Response by SPC Matthew Farnsworth made Dec 16 at 2014 11:35 AM

SPC Matthew Farnsworth — Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:35:34 -0500

The Pledge of Allegiance to America should be recited daily. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. If the people of that school want to say the mexican pledge we can call the cartel to come pick them up.

Response by PO1 Henry Sherrill made Dec 16 at 2014 12:19 PM

PO1 Henry Sherrill — Tue, 16 Dec 2014 12:19:45 -0500

HELL NO! This the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, not Mexico. If the teacher wants our kids to say a pledge to Mexico then that teacher needs to go to Mexico and teach. I for one would instruct my kids to say the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and sit down for the Mexican pledge and refuse to say it.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 16 at 2014 12:48 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 16 Dec 2014 12:48:40 -0500

HELL NO...nuff said

Response by LTC Dr Richard Wasserman, LTC (R) made Dec 16 at 2014 4:26 PM

LTC Dr Richard Wasserman, LTC (R) — Tue, 16 Dec 2014 16:26:23 -0500

To answer the question--HELL NO. They can do it all they want when they go back permanently.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 17 at 2014 2:32 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 17 Dec 2014 02:32:23 -0500

.I am going to be working for an update on this story, considering the implications.

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Dec 17 at 2014 11:05 AM

SGM Erik Marquez — Wed, 17 Dec 2014 11:05:44 -0500

If you read the story.. it does sound like it was a teacher attempting to engage students in learning Spanish.... nothing more.. no covert brain washing.. Misguided perhaps... but certainly nothing malevolent>

Parents wring hands and gnashing of teeth when teachers just hand out paperwork, home work, not "TEACHING" .. not engaging students, not encouraging .. Here we have a teacher that came up with an engaging way to teach the lesson.. the lesson of learning to speak Spanish.. and learn about the culture ... and we have wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth.

Response by SGT Paul Mitsuda made Dec 17 at 2014 9:06 PM

SGT Paul Mitsuda — Wed, 17 Dec 2014 21:06:48 -0500

HELL TO THE NO! Last time I checked, Texas is part of the United States, not part of Mexico! At least not any more! If they want to pledge to the Mexican allegiance, they can just go back!

Response by SSgt James Stanley made Dec 18 at 2014 12:47 AM

SSgt James Stanley — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 00:47:48 -0500

NO, Texas students should not be forced to say the Mexican Pledge of Allegiance. Any teacher that tries to force them to say it should be fired. This is the United States of America and only our pledge should be recited. Anyone that has a problem with this, I hear there is plenty of room in Mexico now that they're all up here!

Response by PO2 Robert Lee made Dec 18 at 2014 1:52 PM

PO2 Robert Lee — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 13:52:30 -0500

Did Texas leave the United States of America? If not then of course not. I believe in patriotism, If the students and teachers are only patriotic to mexico, then there is nothing stopping them from giving up their citizenship and going over the border to Mexico.

Otherwise, everyone needs to be patriotic to the country that they live in and enjoy the freedoms in. Some of these people are crazy, now a days.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 18 at 2014 1:59 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 13:59:00 -0500

It's America. Our national language is English. Our Pledge of Allegiance is to the Flag of the United States of America. If it's a public school, a public/gov't anything, English should be spoken and the USA should be represented. Period.

I'm all for assisting peoples of different origins/heritages integrate into this diversified country through translated documents etc., but notice I stated "INTEGRATE." Not come here to be segregated. We make a great effort for them. The same effort should be made by those who choose to make our country their new home.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 18 at 2014 4:06 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 16:06:43 -0500

I pledge Allegiance to the flag
of the United States of America
and to the Republic for which it stands,
one nation under God, indivisible,
with Liberty and Justice for all.

You can add or subject God. That is up to you.

Response by SPC Leisel Luman made Dec 21 at 2014 11:49 AM

SPC Leisel Luman — Sun, 21 Dec 2014 11:49:24 -0500

My daughter could say the Pledge by the time she was three and still strapped into her baby seat in the car. It's up to is to instill this into our children. The new Common Core has some kids learning Islam vocabulary and no other religion. Video of this is on Fox News. They tried to force this CC on the catholic school my daughter attends and we opted out of Common Core. I'm broke but my daughter goes to a school where they say the Pledge every morning and are expected to Respect the American Flag. They pray every morning. It's the best use of my money. I'm investing in Americas Future by instilling it in my child!

Response by SGT Michael Glenn made Dec 22 at 2014 4:28 PM

SGT Michael Glenn — Mon, 22 Dec 2014 16:28:36 -0500

My vote is if you cannot or will not speak the English language, get the F**k out of this country, plain and simple, yes its a free country and yes your welcome here...TO BE A FLIPPING AMERICAN!!!! we speak English!!!! I am told all over the world in my travels that it is considered rude to not speak to people (at least try) in their native tongue while visiting or living in that country so why is it you think you can come into this country, drain all our welfare programs,steal from us and then top it off by refusing to learn OUR language!!!!! Buss's and boats as well as plains leave daily to the country of your choice !!!!

Response by TSgt Kristin Parsons made Dec 24 at 2014 5:26 AM

TSgt Kristin Parsons — Wed, 24 Dec 2014 05:26:28 -0500

Short answer: NO!
Long answer: Hell No!

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 24 at 2014 7:59 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 24 Dec 2014 19:59:58 -0500

Just because I am that guy, I'm going to say it. America is the whole Western Hemisphere. ;)

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 1 at 2015 6:46 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 01 Jan 2015 18:46:54 -0500

I just came across this post and I am horrified at the ignorance of this "Spanish" teacher. In the article it states she claims having students recite the MEXICAN pledge has something to do with the cultural of the SPANISH language?! Are you kidding me?!! I took Spanish in high school (in Texas) and was not forced to do this. Additionally, I am of Mexican decent (and Italian and some others) but always first and foremost, I am an AMERICAN. I will NEVER pledge, in a class or otherwise, allegiance to another country. Nor will ever allow my children to be forced to do so. WAKE UP AMERICA, take back our educational system for the politically correct ignorant liberals that are corrupting the youth of America.

Response by 1SG Clifford Barnes made Jan 1 at 2015 6:58 PM

1SG Clifford Barnes — Thu, 01 Jan 2015 18:58:25 -0500

No there is only one Pledge of Allegiance

Response by SPC Dean J. Thompson made Jan 5 at 2015 6:24 AM

SPC Dean J. Thompson — Mon, 05 Jan 2015 06:24:23 -0500

I don't even think we have our kids reciting the pledge of allegiance to the United States of America any more in school. So, the mexican pledge...HELL NO!..We need to step back to the days when all children started the day with a morning prayer and Pledge of Allegiance to the United States of America with your hand over your heart while facing the flag of the United States of America period...We would have a portion the class explaining why reciting the pledge is an important part of team building and loyalty to something other than ones self...To help in the development of respect and personal sacrifice which is lacking in many schools today. We used to also sing either the National Anthem or America the Beautiful after the pledge...Did this ritual every school day morning until 9th grade...then for some reason it just stopped in the 70s.

Response by SPC Charles Brown made Jun 9 at 2015 12:20 PM

SPC Charles Brown — Tue, 09 Jun 2015 12:20:29 -0400

Only if we give Texas back to Mexico.

Response by SPC Frank White made Jul 16 at 2015 6:56 PM

SPC Frank White — Thu, 16 Jul 2015 18:56:45 -0400

Absolutely not...they should be required to recite the United States pledge of alliagence when in any public school on united states soil...

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 16 at 2015 7:05 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 16 Jul 2015 19:05:04 -0400

Response by CPO Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 23 at 2015 5:57 PM

CPO Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 17:57:30 -0400

Short answer...NO. Long answer...What the heck were they thinking? It should be illegal to swear allegiance to another nation if you're an American citizen. It's sad that many of us are viewed as being narrow minded because we object to this sort of thing. But most of us (here on this site) have seen what the rest of the world has to offer up close and realize what a fantastic county we have...for now.

Response by MAJ Anne McGee made Jul 23 at 2015 6:45 PM

MAJ Anne McGee — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 18:45:08 -0400

She did the right thing. The teacher probably thought it was an innocent exercise in recitation but that's disturbing because it shows that she doesn't understand what the Pledge really means and has no reverence or respect for what our flag represents.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Jul 28 at 2015 7:13 AM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Tue, 28 Jul 2015 07:13:19 -0400

SGT Michael Glenn You realize Mexico is in an America too right? There are three, North, South and Central. THose would be continents, not countries..

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 28 at 2015 7:37 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 28 Jul 2015 07:37:00 -0400

Hell no.

Response by SrA Edward Vong made Jul 28 at 2015 3:36 PM

SrA Edward Vong — Tue, 28 Jul 2015 15:36:14 -0400

It should either be the US Pledge of Allegiance, or none at all.

Response by SPC Chris Early made Jul 28 at 2015 3:52 PM

SPC Chris Early — Tue, 28 Jul 2015 15:52:14 -0400

no we don't even say our pledge of allegiance in schools anymore, not to be mean but why should we say theirs.

Response by PO1 Glenn Boucher made Sep 25 at 2015 2:33 PM

PO1 Glenn Boucher — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 14:33:14 -0400

I think the stupid meter is broken now.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 8 at 2016 5:33 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 08 Dec 2016 17:33:16 -0500

not just no but hell no and the mexican flag should be banned from all schools and anyone bringing one to school or wearing one needs to be sent home and their families should be investigated by the INS if found to be illegal they need to be deported period.

Response by SGT Gregory Reilly made Dec 22 at 2016 8:43 PM

SGT Gregory Reilly — Thu, 22 Dec 2016 20:43:12 -0500

NO, NO, NO !!! My grandparents immigrated and part of that was learning the language and the culture. Who are the idiots that even suggest things like this. You come to America for a better life, I get it. It's been happening for hundreds of years. Then become AMERICAN or get the hell out. Sorry but this is crap. Leave it alone or please just LEAVE!!!