Should States provide free government issued IDs to voters?

2016-03-02T11:05:57-05:00

New proposals require a gov't issued ID to vote. Currently forms of acceptable ID include Driver's license, State Issued ID card, U.S. Passport, a copy of a utility bill, bank statement or paycheck. Worry about the exclusion of voters for example in Missouri it is estimated 200,000 voters would be excluded has led to a proposal that States issue free gov't ID to qualified voters.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Mar 2 at 2016 11:08 AM

2016-03-02T11:08:49-05:00

Yep! If you are going to have to require it, you are going to have to make it free otherwise it is a Poll Tax, No Matter How Cheap.

Response by PO3 Steven Sherrill made Mar 2 at 2016 11:08 AM

2016-03-02T11:08:52-05:00

CPT Private RallyPoint Member if they are going to require the ID be shown, then they should provide the ID poverty is no reason to disenfranchise voters.

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Mar 2 at 2016 11:12 AM

2016-03-02T11:12:50-05:00

Absolutely, and many states do. That, however, will not make any difference to the "anti-voter ID" folks whose primary reason for not requiring ID is to ensure continued voter fraud to get their liberal candidates elected. Nobody should be allowed to vote without proof of voter registration and proof of identity. There is simply no valid reason to not require ID.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Mar 2 at 2016 11:20 AM

2016-03-02T11:20:07-05:00

Absolutely. By all accounts, we have a lot of aliens residing in the United States, many undocumented/unregistered. Many with agendas inimical to the vital interests of the country. Without IDs that prove citizenship, we are allowing them to interfere in the expression of the will of We the People. Sadly, we don't have a trustworthy form of identification. California, for example, is handing out valid drivers licenses to illegal aliens like condoms at a whorehouse. Illegal aliens also have bank accounts and rent residences and can produce valid utility bills and bank accounts. Thus, it's not a matter of "if" but rather of "how".

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 2 at 2016 11:25 AM

2016-03-02T11:25:59-05:00

NC has a voter ID law and issues free IDs through the DMV.

Response by SSG Ed Mikus made Mar 2 at 2016 11:26 AM

2016-03-02T11:26:21-05:00

In our world a valid ID is a necessity, therefore i feel every resident should be provided a free ID around age 10. That being said, that FREE ID should do no more than prove your identity, if you want to upgrade to a Drivers License, Passport, or other then you must pay the normal fee, if you need a new one more often than is considered normal you should be required to pay a small fee.

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Mar 2 at 2016 11:45 AM

2016-03-02T11:45:48-05:00

Virginia already issues Free ID if the Resident does not possess a Driver's License of State Issued ID.

The issue with the Right to Vote and ID is that Voting is done by "District" therefore we must "track" Residence Location.

There are two "good" arguments for why requiring ID is bad.

1) Cost. Issuing ID cost money. If you make them free, or let someone use an ID they have already paid for, that argument goes away.

2) Age "may" preclude possession of documents which prove identity. However... if anyone has ever lost their wallet, and had to replace EVERYTHING, you can usually have someone vouch for your identity, providing you know all the other pertinent information (like DoB, Mother's Maiden Name, SSN, etc). The question is whether this procedure is overly restrictive or not is really the debate, not whether the ID is actually available.

That said, I'm opposed to a National ID card. We don't need one. However, any Citizen/Resident that wants to exist in "modern society" needs to have some form of ID. The argument that it shouldn't be required to vote (prove voting district) is flawed and disingenuous.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 2 at 2016 12:18 PM

2016-03-02T12:18:59-05:00

I must live in a sheltered world in the US, as I've never met anyone over the age of 21 that did not either have a state ID or drivers license.

Response by PFC Stephen Eric Serati made Mar 2 at 2016 2:08 PM

2016-03-02T14:08:01-05:00

Yes,

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 2 at 2016 3:57 PM

2016-03-02T15:57:37-05:00

What is the controversy about ID cards? you need one for multiple purposes. I don't see how that is racist or against the poor....