Posted on Jan 18, 2016
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I think it stinks that after this long the Sec of Def. can reduce someone in rank. Even if he or she is a General officer. Yes I know he was convicted of mishandling of classified material. They should have reduced him back then. Maybe we as military community should let our voices be heard.
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David Petraeus
Posted 9 y ago
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Both he and Hillary Clinton should be investigated with the same level of focus and non-bias. I'm not saying they did the same exact thing, obviously that's a stupid overgeneralization. But each of them did (or allegedly did) something that was a serious problem. "According to court documents, former CIA Director David Petraeus was prosecuted for sharing intelligence from special access programs with his biographer and mistress Paula Broadwell. At the heart of his prosecution was a non-disclosure agreement where Petraeus agreed to protect these closely held government programs, with the understanding “unauthorized disclosure, unauthorized retention or negligent handling … could cause irreparable injury to the United States or be used to advantage by a foreign nation.” Clinton signed an identical non-disclosure agreement Jan. 22, 2009."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/19/inspector-general-clinton-emails-had-intel-from-most-secretive-classified-programs.html?intcmp=hpbt1
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/19/inspector-general-clinton-emails-had-intel-from-most-secretive-classified-programs.html?intcmp=hpbt1
Inspector General: Clinton emails had intel from most secretive, classified programs | Fox News
EXCLUSIVE: Hillary Clinton's emails on her unsecured, homebrew server contained intelligence from the U.S. government's most secretive and highly classified programs, according to an unclassified letter from a top inspector general to senior lawmakers.
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LTC Jaime Franco
One gets demoted the out he gets to run for POTUS, Just does not seem like a fair and just system is in place to keep people accountable for their actions.
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MAJ (Join to see)
That's only what he pled guilty to, to avoid being tried on the far more substantial charges. He got a sweet plea deal, no doubt. But let's not obscure the facts.
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There should be no double standards enlisted soldiers get reduced for lesser crimes. The PFC Bradley Manning is serving a life sentence for releasing classified information.
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COL Charles Williams
Good point CSM Colin Patterson , but I think he turned his intel over to the enemy...
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CSM Colin Patterson
Hey Sir I got it that he didn't release the information to the enemy, which is why I am not saying he deserve jail time. But the reduction is appropriate. Under this administration they reduced the former AFRICOM commander from four stars to 3 for misuse of a government credit card and misuse of a government plane. So I think a reduction is appropriate here also.
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SGM (Join to see)
Seems like we have leaders who pick and choose what laws and regulations they will enforce-- and who is held accountable.
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I was wondering why this was coming up now since it seems so long ago, but it turns out he just pleaded guilty to a federal misdemeanor charge of mishandling classified information in April 2015. He was sentenced to 2 years probation and a $100,000 fine. But that was all in the civilian system
Now the SECDEF has to decide whether to charge the general for anything under the UCMJ. That could include things like his adultery that aren't crimes in the civilian world. So that's the decision pending and why it's coming up now.
Now the SECDEF has to decide whether to charge the general for anything under the UCMJ. That could include things like his adultery that aren't crimes in the civilian world. So that's the decision pending and why it's coming up now.
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Sgt Frank Rinchich
BS , mishandling classified military information is a civilian offense , it should have come under the UCMJ to start with. none of this should have come under a civilian court .he was a solider, soldiers are prosecuted under the UCMJ. what makes it a civilian offense ? now if you were found guilty under the UCMJ and removed from the military , and damage was done to a civilian then that person could file charges against you in civilian court. I am no lawyer but if it proceeds as is, to me that's double jeopardy.
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If there are new charges then I can see. He was top of the food chain and he did mishandle classified information. However, SEC DEF is still looking into the matter, so we'll just wait and see then
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Absolutely NOT .... If you are not going to prosecute the Secretary of State .... ten more than enough has been done....
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I believe that this question has already been decided when SecDef Carter recently announced that he considered the case closed and that there would be no further action on the part of DoD.
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SPC Steven Depuy
In this day and age sir, you never know. While I had a problem with the arms involved, remember the Oregon standoff recently was over two people who had served jail time, that a judge felt was not harsh enough, and he wanted to send them back to jail to serve more time for something they had already been punished for. Since I feel this case is very politically motivated over keeping the Generals mouth shut, who is to say a future president might tell the SecDef to reopen it.
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In a totally "unrelated" case of senior officer corruption: http://www.militarycorruption.com/malaki.htm
The phrase "different spanks for different ranks" seems to apply, however...
The phrase "different spanks for different ranks" seems to apply, however...
NAVY LCDR LATEST OFFICER TO PLEAD GUILTY IN "FAT LEONARD" BRIBERY SCANDAL - ADMITS TAKING ENVELOPES OF CASH - SERVICES OF A PROSTITUTE - TODD MALAKI FACES UP TO FIVE YEARS IN PRISON WHEN SENTENCED JULY 6 IN FEDERAL COURT SAN DIEGO
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