Should Non-Military or Non affiliated civilians be allowed on a military Base

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 10 May 2014 16:01:51 -0400

I know today a lot of military bases allow almost anyone with a valid Drivers/ID License enter a Military Installation. Do you think it should strictly be for Military affiliated personnel and civilians. I know for a fact that civilians come on post to get gas and leave that kinda aggravates me.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 10 at 2014 4:09 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 10 May 2014 16:09:31 -0400

I've never seen this myself. I always have to vouch guests onto base, and every person in the vehicle gets ID checked.
Is it an Army thing?

I do agree that only the necessary people be allowed, for security purposes.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made May 10 at 2014 6:30 PM

PO1 William "Chip" Nagel — Sat, 10 May 2014 18:30:11 -0400

It would be nice to live in our own bubble sometimes and you really have to wonder about the checks done on the Civilians taking care of our Services but I haven't seen a base yet that doesn't depend on a Civilian Supply Chain and or Logistics in the US or Overseas. I'm not happy with the way the Seabees functions have been replaced with Civilian Contractors in these last few Military Endeavors either. Seabees did a damn good job but in Iraq and Afghanistan all of a sudden I am hearing about Shower Electrocutions on showers built by Civilians and not by Seabees.

Response by CPT Jacob Swartout made May 10 at 2014 6:45 PM

CPT Jacob Swartout — Sat, 10 May 2014 18:45:51 -0400

If they have no business on post, they need to be turned away at the gates.

Response by PO3 Galon Miller made May 10 at 2014 10:04 PM

PO3 Galon Miller — Sat, 10 May 2014 22:04:39 -0400

For safety reasons, only military personnel should be allowed on base. The unfortunate ramification of this policy is if civilians are trying to show their support by interviewing and hiring transitioning active duty service men and women base access is needed.

Response by PO1 Douglas Hansen made May 11 at 2014 11:23 AM

PO1 Douglas Hansen — Sun, 11 May 2014 11:23:36 -0400

A lot of these folks, as you put it are Honorably Discharged Veterans and these individuals have EARNED the right to base privileges. Unless the base is an open base, all individuals should be checked for ID. Also, a lot of civilians on base are employed by the services, including contractors. Used to be all vehicles coming on base had to have a base sticker or have a temporary pass, now the Government and the services have relaxed that and no longer require base decals or temporary passes.

Response by LCDR Christopher Mercer made May 11 at 2014 1:30 PM

LCDR Christopher Mercer — Sun, 11 May 2014 13:30:40 -0400

They should not be allowed on the base for any reason. It's not an amusement park or public venue. It's a secure area that is home to our military. If you are not a relative of the service member or DoD Civilian you should not be allowed access to any base regardless of the reason.

Response by SPC Chris Forzetting made May 21 at 2014 7:13 PM

SPC Chris Forzetting — Wed, 21 May 2014 19:13:24 -0400

I think a veteran should be able to visit and see public areas (especially if he served at that base). A copy of his DD214 should be required as well as current picture ID. For bases like Fort Riley that have special museums the rules need to be more relaxed. Perhaps two levels of visitor vehicle passes, one for specific destinations, and one for more general but still public areas...