Posted on Sep 20, 2015
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Should NATO recruit/train a Free Syrian Army using the refugees as the base?
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LTC Hbpc Physician Assistant
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NATO sounds like a code word for USA in that scenario.
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Well we are a member.... ;)
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MCPO Roger Collins
MCPO Roger Collins
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What is the old saying, insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Where are the 90 or so we trained so far to the tune of around a million dollars per unit. Hire some competent mercenaries and save some money.
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PO1 Bill Adams
PO1 Bill Adams
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NATO should do it, UN should do it. Yep, usually means The US should do it.
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1LT William Clardy
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Edited 9 y ago
You must really hate Syrians, MAJ (Join to see).

When it comes to unity of command, NATO at its heart remains a committee, and the best working definition of a committee can be found here (down near the bottom of the list):

http://www.angelfire.com/or/sociologyshop/lazlong.html#inter2
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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It depends on what ideology is most important to the refugees.
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MCPO Roger Collins
MCPO Roger Collins
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MAJ Ken Landgren - No one wanted to hear the answer to that question.
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SFC Jason Babb
SFC Jason Babb
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I've never experienced airstrikes in my neighborhood. I suppose my ideology at that point would be- don't get blown up.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
MAJ Ken Landgren
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The last time we stood up an army it was carved up like a Turkey.
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SFC Jason Babb
SFC Jason Babb
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The Syrian problem is much more complex than just dealing with ISIS. The US could play right in their hand and attack ISIS at Dabiq. I really believe the majority of their force would be available for that battle. They're going nuts to face the Americans there because it goes along with their theology. The US could stomp out the fighting spirit of ISIS and leave it as a barely operable spider organization. Unless God rained fire upon the infidels, which is what they expect, I've read. Jesus. What a crazy time to be in the armed forces.
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Should NATO create a Free Syrian Army from the refugees?
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Despite US training, Iraqi military can 'barely' defend itself. I see this as a no win situation.
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SFC Jason Babb
SFC Jason Babb
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The US disbanded the legit Iraqi military during the 03 invasion. Most of those cats disappeared into the ether only to reappear as the combatants the current Iraqi military is facing. Imagine that.
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Just support the Kurd and ISIS will be good. If Turkey don't start bombing the Kurd... lol
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SGT Roberto Mendoza-Diaz
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You mean another ISIS?
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LCDR Deputy Department Head
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Could definitely be done, but a whole lot of screening would need to take place. I tentatively support the idea.
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1LT William Clardy
1LT William Clardy
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I have no doubt that it could be don, LCDR (Join to see) - it would not be difficult for the French to form a 1er Régiment Arabe de la Légion Étrangère, followed by a 2e Régiment Arabe and maybe even a 3e Régiment Arabe, which could march into battle as an effective fighting force

But the alliance as a whole do it? They'd still be working out the command-rotation sequence when the black flag gets raised in Damascus.
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LCDR Deputy Department Head
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1LT William Clardy very true. One nation doing this would be far for effective and efficient than the UN as a whole.
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1LT William Clardy
1LT William Clardy
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Not just any nation can do it, LCDR (Join to see). I named the French for a reason: they are the most unapologetic of the European nations about retaining control over their not-really-former colonies, and whoever wants to stand up an effective fighting force will have to provide the command element. Sending freshly trained troops in without experienced and competent commanders is sentencing the troops to pointless slaughter.

(Anybody who thinks la Belle France let go of her empire should check out all the places the Foreign Legion is posted to -- it's very illuminating, especially for those who don't remember how recently it was troops from the Légion Étrangère which pushed the Libyan Army out of northern Chad and who cut short an attempted coup in Madagascar.)
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LCDR Deputy Department Head
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1LT William Clardy - very true and I wasn't advocating any specific nation but you're right the French are optimal.
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Capt Seid Waddell
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If they aren't willing to fight for themselves, why should anyone else fight for them?
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SFC Jason Babb
SFC Jason Babb
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People are so, so off-base about this. It's not a singular ground force coming in, going house to house and subjugating these people. If it's not a coalition airstrike, an Assad airstrike or some ISIS rockets, mortars or SAF... how do you fight all that? I guess the noble thing to do would be to step out as the aircraft screech overhead and fire your AK at it. Theyve been fighting a civil was for a long time. It's a different map now.
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SFC Jason Babb
SFC Jason Babb
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Doesnt matter if you're a good guy, bad guy, just a working guy.... and it doesn't matter what plane drops the bomb. That's what people are running from.
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Capt Seid Waddell
Capt Seid Waddell
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SFC Jason Babb, the Kurds don't seem to be running.
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SFC Jason Babb
SFC Jason Babb
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Those Kurds... those men are doing it. I have nothing but respect for the Kurds.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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Once you have an army or group of people on the run, it is infinitely difficult to turn them around.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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I think it will be difficult to create an army when all eyes are on that contract and it is weapons free.
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