Should Military Police Soldiers be allowed to carry concealed weapons on post? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-military-police-soldiers-be-allowed-to-carry-concealed-weapons-on-post <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><br /><br /><p style="margin:0in 0in 10pt;" class="MsoNormal">Should Military Police Soldiers be allowed to carry concealed<br />weapons on post?<br><br /><br><br />In 2004 Congress enacted the Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act that allows two classes of persons the<br />"qualified <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_officer">law enforcement officer</a>" and the<br />"qualified retired law enforcement officer" to carry a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concealed_Carry_in_the_United_States">concealed firearm</a> in any<br />jurisdiction in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States">United States</a>, regardless of state or local laws,<br />with certain exceptions.  <br><br>In 2013 LEOSA<br />was amended and contained language which further clarified that Military Police<br />Officers (enlisted and officers) and civilian police officers (DACP) employed by<br />the U.S. Government unambiguously met the definitions in the original Act. DoD<br />released a directive this year for all the services to implement LEOSA and<br />allow MPs (and retired MPs), with a “Police ID card” to carry in all 50 states.<br /><br><br>My understanding is that by the end of the year DA will start issuing ID cards<br />to most MPs. MPs will have to have at least 2 years law enforcement experience<br />to apply for the ID card. It is also my understanding that Military Bases will<br />still be “gun free zones” and MPs will not be able to carry on post unless they are<br />performing law enforcement duties (working the road). <br><br>There has been a lot of<br />discussion that Soldiers should be allowed to carry on post. As a Soldier and a<br />Citizen I am torn on what the right answer is when it comes to allowing<br />Soldiers to carry on post. But by allowing qualified MPs on and off duty to<br />carry, it creates a “reserve force” in the case of another active shooter.<br />While this might not have prevented the Lopez shooting since it happened in a<br />unit area. It might have prevented or neutralized the Hassan shooting earlier,<br />since he started shooting at an SRP site. It would be prevention at a place<br />like the PX or Commissary. In no way would this open up weapons in the<br />barracks, since Soldiers would still have to store their weapons in the arms<br />room. <br><br>Since there is 2 year law enforcement experience required, and an age<br />requirement (21) to own a pistol, most junior Soldiers (E1-E3) would not<br />qualify. In a standard large post like Fort Drum or Fort Carson there is<br />usually 1 BN of MPs and a separate companies worth scattered though out the<br />DIV. (one PLT per BCT, plus PMO cells). With the 2 year LE experience, there<br />would be a few hundred MPs allowed to carry (200-300, I'm gessing, counting Senior NCOs and<br />officers). Commanders would still have the authority to confiscate police creds<br />for any MP that is under investigation (art 15, court marshal stuff like that),<br />facing chapter or is generally “pulled from road duty”. <br><br /><br><br />What is everyone’s opinion on LEOSA and MPs on base? Good idea, or a bad idea?          </p><br /><br /> Fri, 18 Apr 2014 12:05:29 -0400 Should Military Police Soldiers be allowed to carry concealed weapons on post? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/should-military-police-soldiers-be-allowed-to-carry-concealed-weapons-on-post <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><br /><br /><p style="margin:0in 0in 10pt;" class="MsoNormal">Should Military Police Soldiers be allowed to carry concealed<br />weapons on post?<br><br /><br><br />In 2004 Congress enacted the Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act that allows two classes of persons the<br />"qualified <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_officer">law enforcement officer</a>" and the<br />"qualified retired law enforcement officer" to carry a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concealed_Carry_in_the_United_States">concealed firearm</a> in any<br />jurisdiction in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States">United States</a>, regardless of state or local laws,<br />with certain exceptions.  <br><br>In 2013 LEOSA<br />was amended and contained language which further clarified that Military Police<br />Officers (enlisted and officers) and civilian police officers (DACP) employed by<br />the U.S. Government unambiguously met the definitions in the original Act. DoD<br />released a directive this year for all the services to implement LEOSA and<br />allow MPs (and retired MPs), with a “Police ID card” to carry in all 50 states.<br /><br><br>My understanding is that by the end of the year DA will start issuing ID cards<br />to most MPs. MPs will have to have at least 2 years law enforcement experience<br />to apply for the ID card. It is also my understanding that Military Bases will<br />still be “gun free zones” and MPs will not be able to carry on post unless they are<br />performing law enforcement duties (working the road). <br><br>There has been a lot of<br />discussion that Soldiers should be allowed to carry on post. As a Soldier and a<br />Citizen I am torn on what the right answer is when it comes to allowing<br />Soldiers to carry on post. But by allowing qualified MPs on and off duty to<br />carry, it creates a “reserve force” in the case of another active shooter.<br />While this might not have prevented the Lopez shooting since it happened in a<br />unit area. It might have prevented or neutralized the Hassan shooting earlier,<br />since he started shooting at an SRP site. It would be prevention at a place<br />like the PX or Commissary. In no way would this open up weapons in the<br />barracks, since Soldiers would still have to store their weapons in the arms<br />room. <br><br>Since there is 2 year law enforcement experience required, and an age<br />requirement (21) to own a pistol, most junior Soldiers (E1-E3) would not<br />qualify. In a standard large post like Fort Drum or Fort Carson there is<br />usually 1 BN of MPs and a separate companies worth scattered though out the<br />DIV. (one PLT per BCT, plus PMO cells). With the 2 year LE experience, there<br />would be a few hundred MPs allowed to carry (200-300, I'm gessing, counting Senior NCOs and<br />officers). Commanders would still have the authority to confiscate police creds<br />for any MP that is under investigation (art 15, court marshal stuff like that),<br />facing chapter or is generally “pulled from road duty”. <br><br /><br><br />What is everyone’s opinion on LEOSA and MPs on base? Good idea, or a bad idea?          </p><br /><br /> SSG Private RallyPoint Member Fri, 18 Apr 2014 12:05:29 -0400 2014-04-18T12:05:29-04:00 2014-04-18T12:05:29-04:00