Should I do something about my unit not posting the presidents portrait on the chain of command?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 02 May 2018 17:59:14 -0400

I've been at my unit several months and there is no picture of my commander in chief on the wall where the chain of command is displayed. Pictures have been updated as changes are made except for the case of the president. Is this something to be irritated about or am I flustered over nothing?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 2 at 2018 6:04 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 02 May 2018 18:04:38 -0400

You could just ask, I'm not sure if it's necessary... however it seems to strange to omit the POTUS. He should be up there because of the position he holds, not because he's a swell guy. Putting his picture up isn't an endorsement of Trump, its simply an acknowledgement of the chain of command.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 2 at 2018 6:05 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 02 May 2018 18:05:28 -0400

Bring it up to your chain of command. I do not think it's deliberate as the CiC is obvious. We never had pictures of any of ours. We were just responsible for knowing them. That was nearly forty years ago, however. Maybe things have changed. Lol

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 2 at 2018 6:12 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 02 May 2018 18:12:30 -0400

I remember times when the official photo that you had to get through official channels only was not available as they were out of stock. So we had to wait until the gov printing office made another batch of them to get a picture.

Response by MAJ James Woods made May 2 at 2018 6:30 PM

MAJ James Woods — Wed, 02 May 2018 18:30:08 -0400

Suggest you use the open door policy and ask your 1SG or CDR why a picture of the president isn't hanging up there? But first ask yourself, how long has the picture been missing? It's nothing to be irritated about or flustered but you're within your right to ask; just don't lose your composure if you're not happy with the answer you get.

Response by Lt Col Jim Coe made May 2 at 2018 6:35 PM

Lt Col Jim Coe — Wed, 02 May 2018 18:35:34 -0400

I suppose it comes down to your give-a-darn level. If former President Obama is still hanging around on the unit wall with the rest of the chain of command, then it could be a problem. If the chain of command on said wall stops at some one like an Army MACOM commander, then it's probably no big deal. Beware being a squeaky-wheel PFC.

Response by CW4 Guy Butler made May 2 at 2018 6:50 PM

CW4 Guy Butler — Wed, 02 May 2018 18:50:11 -0400

It takes time for distribution to reach everyone; the official photo didn’t get approved until 31 October 2017.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/white-house-releases-official-portraits-president-donald-j-trump-vice-president-mike-pence/

The White House Releases the Official Portraits of President Donald J. Trump and Vice President...

The White House today announces the release of the official portraits of President Donald J. Trump and Vice President Mike Pence. Produced by the U.S. Gove

Response by SFC Jim Ruether made May 2 at 2018 6:53 PM

SFC Jim Ruether — Wed, 02 May 2018 18:53:06 -0400

I would ask why it hasn't been done yet the current unit commander should have seen to it. If his or her ugly mug is up there then our Presidents photo should be too. No Freaking Excuses, he is the top dog in our Chain of Command. WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Response by SFC Jim Ruether made May 2 at 2018 7:06 PM

SFC Jim Ruether — Wed, 02 May 2018 19:06:10 -0400

Find a nice photo on the internet, have the newspaper or library print it and ask the commander if you can post it for your unit?

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 2 at 2018 8:03 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 02 May 2018 20:03:51 -0400

You could ask, be mindful of who you ask. Also be mindful of every battle you want to fight. Is President Obama still up or is it blank?

Response by 1stSgt Nelson Kerr made May 2 at 2018 8:36 PM

1stSgt Nelson Kerr — Wed, 02 May 2018 20:36:49 -0400

Has an official picture been sent out yet?

Response by LTJG Richard Bruce made May 2 at 2018 9:29 PM

LTJG Richard Bruce — Wed, 02 May 2018 21:29:49 -0400

Go directly to the President. Write a letter to the White House asking if they could send a frameable photo for your command since they were missing one. It may take a few weeks, but there will be a photo on the wall. Bad news rolls downhill quickly.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made May 2 at 2018 10:07 PM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 02 May 2018 22:07:47 -0400

Where does the chain-of-command picture stop? In my office hallway it stops at POTUS and goes down to CSM. I have seen some stop at the command's CO.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 2 at 2018 11:06 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 02 May 2018 23:06:42 -0400

Thank you everyone for your input. I will go ahead and ask first sergeant. There is a slot for the presidents portrait but it has been empty since before I arrived in November. All other units I've been a part of have had the presidents portrait where appropriate which is why it I thought it was unusual.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 3 at 2018 9:31 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 03 May 2018 09:31:32 -0400

Our CiC picture had to come through official channels. No one would have noticed or mentioned it if we printed one for ourselves and hung it up, but we didn't. The one of President Obama and VP Biden came down pretty quick (not a political statement, just outdated), but President Trump's pic didn't show up for a while.

Response by PO1 Don Gulizia made May 3 at 2018 9:42 AM

PO1 Don Gulizia — Thu, 03 May 2018 09:42:05 -0400

I would suggest looking at other units on your post/base to see if their chain of command photos have been updated. (I'm lucky enough to work "off-site," so I have no idea we have the photo.) You can look at the exchange or commissary, they usually have the photos hanging somewhere near the entrance. It may be that the official photo hasn't made its way down to the unit level. If other units have the photo and your unit doesn't, then it may be time to ask.

Response by CSM Richard StCyr made May 3 at 2018 10:16 AM

CSM Richard StCyr — Thu, 03 May 2018 10:16:11 -0400

I'd say something if other portraits have been updated but POTUS not. Ran into this with Obama and had to crush some nuts, doesn't matter if you like, agree with or support the POTUS policies but it's inappropriate not to recognize their place in the food chain.

Response by SFC Kelly Fuerhoff made May 3 at 2018 10:30 AM

SFC Kelly Fuerhoff — Thu, 03 May 2018 10:30:48 -0400

Have you mentioned it to someone? Or just bitched about it online? I've seen 1SG and commander pictures stay empty at units. Some units are lazy. Some aren't - shit I just saw the one at work change from the stern one of Trump to a smiling one.

Response by PO1 Don Rowan made May 3 at 2018 10:36 AM

PO1 Don Rowan — Thu, 03 May 2018 10:36:46 -0400

While I consider it reprehensible, I'd be careful. They could make your life hell if they don't like it.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 3 at 2018 1:18 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 03 May 2018 13:18:35 -0400

President Trump didn't get his official photo taken until last November so that may be why your command has not been displaying his photo yet. They cannot just download any old photo off the internet and put it up. In my office we have the President, AG, and director of the agency on the wall also and President Trump's official photo was not delivered until about mid to late March.

Response by MSG John Duchesneau made May 3 at 2018 11:51 PM

MSG John Duchesneau — Thu, 03 May 2018 23:51:08 -0400

Regardless of how some people feel about the current president (including myself) he is still the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces and should be shown with the chain of command. The president is the president. Deal with it.

Response by MSG Dan Castaneda made May 4 at 2018 1:23 PM

MSG Dan Castaneda — Fri, 04 May 2018 13:23:29 -0400

Print this one and put it up.

Response by SCPO William Maloney made May 6 at 2018 9:31 PM

SCPO William Maloney — Sun, 06 May 2018 21:31:51 -0400

Not being a smart-ass, but I'd do it myself and then wait to see who asks about it. Then, I would not trust that person as far as I can throw him (Or her).

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Sep 15 at 2019 1:00 PM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Sun, 15 Sep 2019 13:00:24 -0400

Definitely flustered over nothing... There's little kids starving in Africa, this doesn't even approach the"relevant" list...

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Feb 20 at 2021 4:02 PM

SSG Edward Tilton — Sat, 20 Feb 2021 16:02:49 -0500

Do other units have it?