Should a SPC stand at ease for a CPL? Should a MSG stand at ease for a 1SG? Should a SGM stand at ease for CSM?

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 Mar 2015 09:30:57 -0400

At ease!

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2015 9:31 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 Mar 2015 09:31:23 -0400

eh...

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2015 9:36 AM

CSM Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 Mar 2015 09:36:11 -0400

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Mar 11 at 2015 9:43 AM

Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS — Wed, 11 Mar 2015 09:43:27 -0400

I don't know Army, but.. don't you only wear the diamond when actively in a 1SG billet? So won't there be points where a very senior MSG (who used to be a 1SG) can interact with a very junior 1SG?

As for the SPC/CPL thing... I still really don't "get it." I understand it conceptually, just not emotionally. Why the hell should two people get paid the same when one is doing less work.

Edit: Marine Corps is completely different. MSgt/MGySgt & 1stSgt/SgtMaj is separate promotion path, and don't cross back. We don't have SPCs so that part is moot for us.

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2015 9:44 AM

2LT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 Mar 2015 09:44:53 -0400

Around troops, yes! Shows good order and discipline! When they're shooting the shit in their office about training slides, who cares...

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2015 9:46 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 Mar 2015 09:46:11 -0400

They should stand at ease until the individual gives them permission to stop and relax. They are in the "position" of the "grade or position" part of customs and courtesies.

Response by MSgt Michael Durkee made Mar 11 at 2015 9:49 AM

MSgt Michael Durkee — Wed, 11 Mar 2015 09:49:25 -0400

Hmmm, it depends - then again I'm most familiar with the Air Force. Stand at attention when giving a Reporting Statement, Parade Rest is reserved for formations almost exclusively, and all other times when addressing someone of any rank...maintain military bearing :)

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Mar 11 at 2015 9:58 AM

Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS — Wed, 11 Mar 2015 09:58:05 -0400

Now, the real question is "Should a Navy LT salute an Army CPT?"

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2015 10:15 AM

PO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 Mar 2015 10:15:39 -0400

I see what you did there...

Response by SGT Gabriel G. made Mar 11 at 2015 10:31 AM

SGT Gabriel G. — Wed, 11 Mar 2015 10:31:25 -0400

I came up in Group. I remember getting to my unit as a PFC calling SSGs and SFCs by their first name. There was a guy who came there from big army who was a SPC and told me "Where I come from, a PFC stands at parade rest for a SPC". Being an 18-year-old shithead, I just laughed. I also informed him he was a leg. I think people develop a sense of when they should, but at that high of a rank (E-8/E-9) I guess it depends on the leader.

When I transferred to a normal unit as an E-5, I led from the front, set an example, and didn't usually make people stand at parade rest when being addressed.

Response by PV2 Alaina Norman made Mar 11 at 2015 12:27 PM

PV2 Alaina Norman — Wed, 11 Mar 2015 12:27:09 -0400

ok so i guess this is where i get so called undisciplined at; but i see if its say a pvt to sgt, then yes, but a spc and cpl, that is one ranking off so no i wouldn't

Response by SGM Billy Herrington made Mar 11 at 2015 1:17 PM

SGM Billy Herrington — Wed, 11 Mar 2015 13:17:12 -0400

I don't and won't stand at parade rest for a 1SG.

Response by LTC Stephen C. made Mar 11 at 2015 11:44 PM

LTC Stephen C. — Wed, 11 Mar 2015 23:44:44 -0400

I can't think about this kind of stuff anymore, MAJ Private RallyPoint Member!

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2015 11:48 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 Mar 2015 23:48:21 -0400

The answer is yes to all three.
Not in question.

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 12 at 2015 10:25 AM

SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 Mar 2015 10:25:12 -0400

If the person holds grade or position over the other than the answer is clear, the questioning of this comes because we as leaders who set the example are not enforcing the simple standards.