San Francisco Woman Shot, Killed While Strolling on Pier with Father in 'Random Shooting'. Thoughts?

2015-07-06T19:49:58-04:00

The shooter is an Illegal Immigrant and Convicted Felon that has been deported five times. What was he doing back in the US? Francisco Sanchez, 45, fled the scene, but officers found him in front of a restaurant in the area about an hour after Steinle was shot. Sanchez was on probation in Texas at the time of the shooting, and he has been formally charged with Steinle's murder, according to authorities. Why do we have to put up with these Illegal Immigrants in our Country? Whose dropping the ball?

Response by CSM Michael J. Uhlig made Jul 6 at 2015 7:57 PM

2015-07-06T19:57:35-04:00

I am waiting for our POTUS to address this specifically, or to see if ANY member of his team will go to the funeral. I haven't heard anything from Hillary's pie hole on this murder either. Saying nothing sure as hell is saying something.

Response by SGT Jeremiah B. made Jul 7 at 2015 4:56 PM

2015-07-07T16:56:55-04:00

Going after the immigrants is pointless. We couldn't possibly stop them. Going after the people that hire them though? Oh yeah, that's doable. Right now, the costs are stupid low - ICE busted a place down the street from me that was staffed almost entirely by illegals - they were open again the day after the raid as if nothing happened.

The only practical way to fix illegal immigration is to make it not worth it.

Response by CPO Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 7 at 2015 6:08 PM

2015-07-07T18:08:49-04:00

This infuriates me!!! What is this crap about a sanctuary city anyway!!! The fed needs to grow a pair and tell Cities and states there are NO sanctuaries for any criminals!!! I've never hear of anything so ridiculous in my entire life...

Response by Sgt Ron Danielowski made Jul 7 at 2015 7:47 PM

2015-07-07T19:47:36-04:00

"Why do we have to put up with these Illegal Immigrants in our Country? Whose dropping the ball?"

The short answer is "we are dropping the ball."

A few observations:

1. No one can protect you, nor is it anyone's responsibility to do so. This isn't just my opinion, the courts have specifically stated that police are under no obligation to risk their lives to protect a citizen.

2. San Fransisco is very pro-gun centralization, and only the privileged class (city officials and police for the most part) have any firearms close enough to protect them. The mundanes are left to fend for themselves while the privileged class enjoys protection paid for by the extorted funds of the peons.

3. If we are hoping that POTUS, SCOTUS, or Congress will right things, you only need to look at the past 100 years to know where this is all heading.

4. Immigration isn't our problem. America has been a land of immigrants since the first 13 colonies took root in America. I am an immigrant, and I went to Boot Camp with plenty of them. Most Americans don't have problems with immigrants, they really have problems with the government extorting them and giving their extorted funds to people who don't pay taxes.

The bottom line is that we are responsible for our own security, and when the state interferes with our ability to do that, then things degrade into this type of chaos. It is inevitable.

Response by MAJ Ron Peery made Jul 8 at 2015 11:15 AM

2015-07-08T11:15:37-04:00

We have such an inefficient immigration system, what with the State Department and Homeland Security both being involved, and our laws are so convoluted, that it is extremely difficult for honest folks to immigrate legally. Add to that the current administration, and Congress, constantly making exceptions and outright ignoring the laws and we have a "man caused disaster" in progress. I don't know how to fix it, but maybe just forcing the government to abide by the laws already passed is a good start.

Response by PO2 Ron Burling made Jul 8 at 2015 1:38 PM

2015-07-08T13:38:42-04:00

In this case, it appears to me that no one directly involved really 'dropped the ball', the San Francisco Sheriff's Dept had the scumbag in custody, released to them by ICE as SF had a felony warrant on him. They did place a 'hold' so they should have been notified to pick him up if he was released. The SF Prosecutor decided to drop charges, which triggered the process to release the asshole. As SF Municipal Code mandates, the sheriff ignored the "immigration hold" and released the dirt bag. The blame lies with the SF City Council who enacted that "sanctuary city" BS, but California has many, many cities who have declared themselves "sanctuary cities".