Road rage or a WASP with a wasp up his ass?

CPO Andy Carrillo, MS — Tue, 20 Oct 2015 16:58:15 -0400

The crash happened Saturday on a two-lane road about 5 miles north of Granbury. Eric Sanders, the driver of the motorcycle, contends the car's driver swerved intentionally. He suffered abrasions, and his girlfriend was taken to a Fort Worth hospital with a broken wrist and deep arm lacerations.

https://www.facebook.com/eric.sanders.585/videos/ [login to see] 935597/

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2015/10/20/driver-arrested-after-car-veers-into-motorcycle-hurting-2/?intcmp=hpff

Driver arrested after car veers into motorcycle, hurting 2

Facing 20 year sentences.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 20 at 2015 5:03 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Oct 2015 17:03:19 -0400

That was without a doubt road rage. That guy should go to jail for a very long time. If I was the prosecutor I'd press for attempted manslaughter.

Response by CPO Andy Carrillo, MS made Oct 20 at 2015 5:08 PM

CPO Andy Carrillo, MS — Tue, 20 Oct 2015 17:08:47 -0400

When two A-holes collide...

Response by SFC Derek Ashman made Oct 20 at 2015 5:23 PM

SFC Derek Ashman — Tue, 20 Oct 2015 17:23:00 -0400

The motorcycle rider was wrong by all means but the driver of the car is not a cop or any law enforcement and should have not turn into the motorcycle. What if he killed either the rider or passanger. Then at the end saying I don't care on video. Then change his story saying he was being biten by a bug when charges being brought on him. Well he being charged with 2 counts of aggravate assualt and could face 20 years for each count.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 20 at 2015 5:25 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Oct 2015 17:25:31 -0400

They were both wrong IMO

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 20 at 2015 7:20 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Oct 2015 19:20:51 -0400

I know that road pretty good. No road is ok to act like that on. Especially that road. Granbury is a beautiful place. Don't understand why anyone would be in a bad mood out there. Just stay in your lane and ride it out. Crazy

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 20 at 2015 7:38 PM

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Oct 2015 19:38:24 -0400

The rider is still responsible for following the rules of the road, no matter how tempting the open space is. The cager is responsible for maintaining the speed limit and giving way to avoid collision. Act one, the rider low level offense, passing on double yellow, can be dangerous, and should not have done so. Purposefully swerving your vehicle into another, that becomes assault with a weapon (car). Rider should be cited in my opinion, for reckless driving or whichever VC is appropriate in Texas. Cager should be tried for attempted manslaughter possible attempted murder; though I think that would be a hard sell. Either way they are both clowns and should take remedial driver/rider training.

I did not like the options on the survey and so did not respond.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 20 at 2015 10:33 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Oct 2015 22:33:50 -0400

Fundamentally both are wrong. The motorcycle driver is a moron. Speeding most likely, passing on a double yellow line, and insult to injury neither are wearing gear outside a helmet (at least they had that) so are asking for it. This is a large reason why one should wear gear, even if 'uncomfortable'. It's not your driving (although in this case it's that too), but that of others on the road with you.
But I think the cage driver is the only one guilty of significant criminal offense. Hopefully the police looked for evidence of that sting, because a wasp will likely leave a mark for a good bit of time. No mark, definitely intentional.
Ticket the motorcyclist for reckless driving, speeding, and crossing a double yellow, with no chance for reduction in charges. Prosecute the car driver.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 20 at 2015 11:06 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Oct 2015 23:06:51 -0400

Yes the biker was wrong, but the fact that old fart decided to hand out capitol punishment via vigilante justice for a ticketing offense is insane.

Response by PO1 John Miller made Oct 21 at 2015 3:20 AM

PO1 John Miller — Wed, 21 Oct 2015 03:20:02 -0400

I've already seen this video so I've already made up my mind. Yes the motorcyclist crossed a double yellow line which is illegal.

The old guy in the cage however purposely swerved to hit him. If you listen to the audio he at first says "I don't care..." and only when he finds out that the guy who confronts him is recording that's when his story changes to "I got stung by a wasp." I for one would like to see if that man has a welt that would indicate he recently got stung.

The motorcyclist should be cited for illegal passing and the driver should be charged for attempted murder. However I don't think the motorcyclist should go to prison whereas the driver SHOULD.

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Oct 21 at 2015 9:42 AM

SGM Erik Marquez — Wed, 21 Oct 2015 09:42:33 -0400

Your answer pool has no selection I can agree to..
So I'll put my own here.
While the rider wrong for passing when he did and was a violation of traffic code......what the driver did was deliberate, an attack with a deadly weapon, not defensive, and was a criminal act.
One should get a citation, the other convicted of attempted murder. I strongly disagree with anyone who thinks the action was deserved in this case, as I would the girl raped, calling it "fair" because of her manner of dress. The Man stabbed to death...because he "chooses" to get a burger at a bad time and location.
It was road rage; it was way too close to home....in both location and what I do for a living, hobby, enjoyment.
I ride, my wife rides, my sons ride, I teach people every day to ride and am responsible for putting them (legally) on the road. The driver is lucky to have survived his road rage... My hope is, he gets a cellmate that is a biker.