Reserve soldier ETS on 2/10/18. Do I still show up afterwards?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 12:33:22 -0500

My 8 years will be officially up on February 10th and I will be done. No IRR. Done. I was told I have to wait until I get my orders and I have to show up to every drill until that happens. Is this true?

Response by SGT Eric Davis made Feb 6 at 2018 12:39 PM

SGT Eric Davis — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 12:39:32 -0500

Make sure you out their system for you Won’t be AWOL if they still pay you after that date then go to drill but if not then do not go. Also don’t get out the service stay in!

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 6 at 2018 12:45 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 12:45:53 -0500

I'm betting dollars to pesos that your discharge orders with an effective date are already cut just sitting on someones desk waiting to be issued. I would contact your BN S1 to see if they are tracking your discharge orders. Or, you could also pay a visit to your reserve center RPAC and see if they have orders. If they do, and the date is effective on 10 Feb, then NO you will not need to show up to the next BTA........unless that date falls on a BTA weekend, then yes show up.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 6 at 2018 1:27 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 06 Feb 2018 13:27:27 -0500

NO, you should not.
If you do, they will have to do an annodated enlistment to reflect why you were paid beyond ETS.
They should code you in the pay book as Z, pending loss, until orders are cut.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 7 at 2018 3:57 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 07 Feb 2018 15:57:51 -0500

The question is really have you signed a DA 4187 for ETS? If not you will not have ETS orders. And don't contact your BN S1 before you contact your company level that's just bad form.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 7 at 2018 4:43 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 07 May 2018 16:43:54 -0400

I have never heard of needing orders before the terms of your enlistment will be honored. After your ETS, you are a civilian. Period. As a civilian, the military cannot legitimately pay you as a SM. If anyone knows different, cite the law please. If they do pay you, then they are inappropriately using the purpose of appropriation (to pay Soldiers, which you are not), which makes it an Anti-Deficiency Act (ADA) violation. Anyone with knowledge must immediately report it to DA, who then tells the President. And, also under the ADA, if your command (while they are on duty) told you to show up without getting paid and you did, then they are violating 31 U.S.C. § 1342 (a class E felony) by having you perform voluntary services for the military without pay.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made May 9 at 2018 9:50 AM

SGM Bill Frazer — Wed, 09 May 2018 09:50:31 -0400

Yes