Posted on Aug 29, 2015
Prior enlisted Officers, how was your transition from E to O?
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Do you regret leaving the enlisted side, and if so why?
Posted 9 y ago
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Run before the MDMP gods get you....because the night is dark and full of terror.
Seriously, I would say prepare for a bumpy road. I think it is a much lonelier road and they have to be prepared to make unpopular correct decisions and have the courage of their convictions. It takes time to not "feel enlisted" anymore. I would ask that they shadow someone in the role they seek to really see it as it is.
My best is advice is be honest. First, with yourself, and know your strengths and weaknesses. Second, always tell the truth...even if it mean your death.
Seriously, I would say prepare for a bumpy road. I think it is a much lonelier road and they have to be prepared to make unpopular correct decisions and have the courage of their convictions. It takes time to not "feel enlisted" anymore. I would ask that they shadow someone in the role they seek to really see it as it is.
My best is advice is be honest. First, with yourself, and know your strengths and weaknesses. Second, always tell the truth...even if it mean your death.
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Maj (Join to see) First, I would ask them why they wanted to earn their commission, let them know that the job is not as easy as they probably have heard, and that they really need to be working towards rounding themselves out as an individual (earn their degree, read up on AF history, talk to as many officers as they can and have an officer review their current Selection Record).
I separated as an E-4 and did not commission until 10 years after I got out. So, not only was I 2d Lt, I was an older one at that. Here are some of the challenges I faced as a brand new officer. FGOs, SrNCOs and NCOs (pretty much everyone) automatically treating me as if I knew nothing before getting to know me because of what was on my lapels as opposed to what I was actually saying. This is really difficult for priors because the same rules don't apply and you just don't get as much credit as you think you should for having that prior experience. In my case, the fact that my husband was a SMSgt was seen as more of a positive than my prior enlisted experience.
Another thing I missed about being enlisted, I also was no longer the "doer". I was now the "manager". I think this is one of the most difficult things, for me, as an officer. I like working with customers, solving problems, helping folks out but now, I just manage those that do what I liked to do. I have more paperwork and have to read/comprehend much more but sometimes I just want to go help customers with their personnel record.
While I did and still do listen to anyone who has an opinion/recommendation I have to remember that it's my career that's on the line so I have the final decision after gathering data from a variety of sources (personnel, AFIs, etc.) and make an informed decision. Another challenge, was trying to figure out how to keep up to date with everything going on in my section without being seen as a micro manager.
Definitely seek advice from solid SrNCOs if you have questions about policy, administrative issues, etc. Kick ideas around with them before you make a big decision.
Yes, stick up for your folks but not to the detriment of other Amn. In other words, you need to be fair and consistent because 1) it's the right thing to do and 2) people will make sure you are doing the right thing and will take note when you aren't.
As an O, I work a lot more hours, there is a lot more stress, I have a lot more responsibility and I have to know more w/out the benefit of additionally formal training. Also, one screw up (LOR + worthy) and it's a career killer.
Once you commission you have to remember that you are no longer Enlisted. Fraternization is one of the big issues Lts have because they are so close in age to E-4s and E-5s. I've seen a lot of careers tank due to Lts and junior enlisted being too friendly and/or dating. It's a morale killer in squadrons and creates a lot of havoc and jealousy. So just say 'no'.
With all that being said, I wouldn't change it if I could. I have had the opportunity to lead and learn from some outstanding individuals.
I separated as an E-4 and did not commission until 10 years after I got out. So, not only was I 2d Lt, I was an older one at that. Here are some of the challenges I faced as a brand new officer. FGOs, SrNCOs and NCOs (pretty much everyone) automatically treating me as if I knew nothing before getting to know me because of what was on my lapels as opposed to what I was actually saying. This is really difficult for priors because the same rules don't apply and you just don't get as much credit as you think you should for having that prior experience. In my case, the fact that my husband was a SMSgt was seen as more of a positive than my prior enlisted experience.
Another thing I missed about being enlisted, I also was no longer the "doer". I was now the "manager". I think this is one of the most difficult things, for me, as an officer. I like working with customers, solving problems, helping folks out but now, I just manage those that do what I liked to do. I have more paperwork and have to read/comprehend much more but sometimes I just want to go help customers with their personnel record.
While I did and still do listen to anyone who has an opinion/recommendation I have to remember that it's my career that's on the line so I have the final decision after gathering data from a variety of sources (personnel, AFIs, etc.) and make an informed decision. Another challenge, was trying to figure out how to keep up to date with everything going on in my section without being seen as a micro manager.
Definitely seek advice from solid SrNCOs if you have questions about policy, administrative issues, etc. Kick ideas around with them before you make a big decision.
Yes, stick up for your folks but not to the detriment of other Amn. In other words, you need to be fair and consistent because 1) it's the right thing to do and 2) people will make sure you are doing the right thing and will take note when you aren't.
As an O, I work a lot more hours, there is a lot more stress, I have a lot more responsibility and I have to know more w/out the benefit of additionally formal training. Also, one screw up (LOR + worthy) and it's a career killer.
Once you commission you have to remember that you are no longer Enlisted. Fraternization is one of the big issues Lts have because they are so close in age to E-4s and E-5s. I've seen a lot of careers tank due to Lts and junior enlisted being too friendly and/or dating. It's a morale killer in squadrons and creates a lot of havoc and jealousy. So just say 'no'.
With all that being said, I wouldn't change it if I could. I have had the opportunity to lead and learn from some outstanding individuals.
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