SSG Robert Burns 19633 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Im all about taking initiative to get things done that need to be done quickly sometimes asking for "forgiveness" if necessary.  But has this every came back to bite you in the butt?<div>Do some NCO's abuse this technique to cut corners or be lazy not utilizing proper channels?</div><div>What's the right balance?</div><div>Talk to me people!</div> 2013-12-12T18:41:53-05:00 SSG Robert Burns 19633

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Im all about taking initiative to get things done that need to be done quickly sometimes asking for "forgiveness" if necessary.  But has this every came back to bite you in the butt?<div>Do some NCO's abuse this technique to cut corners or be lazy not utilizing proper channels?</div><div>What's the right balance?</div><div>Talk to me people!</div>

2013-12-12T18:41:53-05:00 2013-12-12T18:41:53-05:00 SGM Matthew Quick 19635

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Depends on the situation...

2013-12-12T18:44:48-05:00 2013-12-12T18:44:48-05:00 SFC James Baber 19708

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Just as MSG Quick mentioned depends on the situation, of course if it involves safety, moral, or illegal ramifications the decision should always be an easy choice as it is right in front of your face.

2013-12-12T20:17:18-05:00 2013-12-12T20:17:18-05:00 SFC Rocky Gannon 19709

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>SSG Burns  I have done it a few time, being in Recruiting sometime you have to make moves or lose the contract (young man or woman) but I did not make it a rule, but as NCO's the accomplishment of my mission was always foremost in my mind!!

2013-12-12T20:17:44-05:00 2013-12-12T20:17:44-05:00 CSM Mike Maynard 20795

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>My "personal" philosophy has always been that, within the confines of good order and discipline, that anything not specifically withheld from me, I had the authority to demonstrate initiative.

2013-12-14T06:53:48-05:00 2013-12-14T06:53:48-05:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 282738

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You've got to try to gauge the reaction to the outcome and weigh that against the reaction to the means that you used to achieve the outcome. Use your head and pick your battles.

2014-10-18T00:33:33-04:00 2014-10-18T00:33:33-04:00 PO2 Rocky Kleeger 282758

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Forgiveness is always easier to get than permission

2014-10-18T01:08:35-04:00 2014-10-18T01:08:35-04:00 PO1 Private RallyPoint Member 282922

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Ah yes, the age old question. I have tried to use the "beg forgiveness" side only when there was a threat to life or property. However, there are times when I admit I have ignored regulations and just did what had to be done. A good example was when I was assigned to an Air Force base - there was this assinine regulation which stated something to the effect: if I wanted to check out a lawn mower to mow my lawn (something required to be done twice monthly - again by regulation) I had to have a safety class that was done only once per year (regulation). So I go TDY/TAD quite regularly and for extended periods of time - so my wife does the mowing. But she can't check out a mower because I haven't had the safety class because I was TDY/TAD when the safety class was being offered. Now SHE could have taken the class but it was only authorized for AD personnel (regulation) - dependents were not authorized (regulation). My solution was to go out on the local economy and buy a mower - but we're not authorized to have a mower (regulation) in an enclosed space. So, we're thinking...AHA! We'll borrow the neighbors mower when they do their lawn! This idea works for several months until some AF inspector drives by, sees the wife mowing and demands to see my safety card! OOOPS! Anyway, the end of this long-winded and salacious tale ends up with a humungous investigation that finally ends up on my CO's desk (from the AF) that requires an official response. Of course, the Navy's solution is simple - the Navy bought 15 lawn mowers and issues them to Navy wives of deployed personnel .......after certifying that each wife had attended a "safety brief".

2014-10-18T08:59:06-04:00 2014-10-18T08:59:06-04:00 2013-12-12T18:41:53-05:00