On This Memorial Weekend, CAIR Leaders Ask: Do Fallen U.S. Troops Truly Merit Honor?

2015-05-23T20:55:42-04:00

I don't have to tell anyone on this forum the significance of this holiday weekend. While there are those who see it as little more than the gateway to their summer season, I have uncovered something even more repulsive: several Chapter Presidents of The Council on American-Islamic Relations have called the propriety of Memorial Day into question this week, openly asking whether Fallen U.S. Troops, who in their view died in an illegal and oppressive invasion on the behalf of a nation ultimately founded upon violence, white supremacy, and racial inequality, truly merit commemoration and remembrance.

What say you, RP Nation? If given the opportunity, what would you say to these individuals in response to their questioning? Please keep it clean and respectful, but be honest!

CAIR Officials on Memorial Day: Do U.S. Troops Merit Honor? | Clarion Project

While the rest of the country was remembering its fallen troops, two prominent CAIR officials questioned whether they deserved to be honored.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2015 8:58 PM

2015-05-23T20:58:16-04:00

My comments would not be allowed on RP

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2015 9:08 PM

2015-05-23T21:08:31-04:00

I suggest they watch this video. I know they won't but it would be nice, if they did. Those sorry murderers.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6y64zTRlrmo

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Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made May 23 at 2015 9:24 PM

2015-05-23T21:24:29-04:00

From the Declaration of Independence, though not a legal document per se, but still one of our most powerful and well known:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed"

"All men are created equal"

Not sure where White Supremacy comes in to that. Sounds to me like Thomas Jefferson said all men were created equal. As a matter of fact, I believe that is a near direct quote (tense adjusted).

As for Memorial Day, and its supposed ties to specific wars. CAIR seems not to understand that soldiers are not politicians. We do not choose our wars, in the traditional way. They erupt, and honoring a fallen solider is about their sacrifice for their nation, not for their political view, or where they served. A great many of us dislike political climate(s), but that doesn't mean we can choose not to do what needs to be done. Those who came before did just that, some paying the ultimate price.

They deserve honor because they sacrificed everything, so that CAIR can say these vile things about them. They rest silently now, while others like us, scream at our monitors, foaming, wishing we could strangle them, but knowing it is their Right to say these horrible things, on this upcoming sacred day.

#^%#$^ CAIR. They can rot in hell for their views. Our Fallen gave all so they could be here saying this crap. $#&! them, for not being decent for just one weekend.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2015 9:29 PM

2015-05-23T21:29:55-04:00

I would love to punch these animals in their misanthropic grills.

Response by Lt Col Jim Coe made May 23 at 2015 9:36 PM

2015-05-23T21:36:30-04:00

To CAIR: please leave the United States as soon as possible. If you can't understand American history and society, we don't need your sorry butt polluting our nation. I'm sure ISIS will be happy to use you as a human shield.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2015 9:55 PM

2015-05-23T21:55:18-04:00

Actually don't really give a Rats A"~* what CAIR or any other possible protesters might think. If you can not grasp the concept of our gratitude to those who have made the ultimate sacrifice then be my guest and leave. It's not about what you want it's about our heroes.

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made May 23 at 2015 11:13 PM

2015-05-23T23:13:01-04:00

I will be honest. I want CAIR to be destroyed. I want them to all go to a convention some where on a chartered private air liner, crash and die preferably in some unpopulated area. In addition, CAIR means terrorist and suppression of rights afforded to citizens in order to push their Islamic way of life.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 24 at 2015 2:34 AM

2015-05-24T02:34:03-04:00

Let me get this straight -
Coming from a group that thinks the holocaust didn't happen...
Women shouldn't drive...
Israel should be wiped off the map...
Hamas are freedom fighters and are justified in committing suicide bombings and indiscriminate rocketing of population centers...
THESE are the people who are going to lecture us about white supremacy and illegal warfare? Just to get publicity on Memorial Day.

SCREW YOU, CAIR!

Response by CW4 Abdulaziz Bulling made May 24 at 2015 2:54 AM

2015-05-24T02:54:21-04:00

As a veteran, son of a veteran, father of a veteran, and member of CAIR, I find it very disconcerting that the so called leadership cannot differentiate between the sacrifices of the military, and yes many are Muslims like myself, and the self-serving few politicians that would knowingly commit our brave sons and daughters to combat operations.
The leadership of CAIR needs to reflect on the meaning of the 1st amendment, and the oath taken by those in uniform, to make the ultimate sacrifice, to protect freedom of religion; one of the duties of any of the true believers.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 24 at 2015 4:59 AM

2015-05-24T04:59:04-04:00

ISIS and the rest of their chumps play liberals like a violin. They use the propaganda handed to them by liberals. America is not exceptional, 'Merica' and hatred of God as a way of dividing nation. Just so they can do what, make fun of Republicans? LOL> God help us all and to hell with ISIS and the people who want to blame America for everything. I got a hand gesture for all the haters of America.

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made May 24 at 2015 6:04 AM

2015-05-24T06:04:16-04:00

Another case of why opinions are like a$$holes, or in this case why a$$holes have opinions. Why come to our shores and spout such nonsense - oh that's right because you'd be handed your hat with you head still in it if you said those things in your own country.

Stop trying to make OUR country fit YOUR mentality.

Response by Capt Michael Berry made May 24 at 2015 9:15 AM

2015-05-24T09:15:46-04:00

CAIR, it's operatives, it's guiding principles, should be given no more credence than any belief system that seduces with the fear of violence, however veiled. It is an organization, a tool, that is used to foster division.

Whether a war is believed to be just or unjust, regardless from where the individual derives their sense of morality, the memory of those who made the ultimate sacrifice to ensure that Americans, and people around the world, would be able to reap the benefits of freedom, should and must be preserved.

It is important to keep in mind what we are honoring. Definitely not a three-day weekend that promotes relaxation and recreation. Nor are we celebrating the necessity of war and all that war entails. At a minimum, Americans should observe a moment of respect and homage to those who have died for their country, for the motives of those who sacrificed were noble and uncorrupted to be sure.

But on a deeper level, one should not be blinded into thinking that all motives are void of being corrupted by nefarious influences. Ask what is truly being glorified by some elements, or groups, in our government?

For them I would say this - Veterans are no more than props to be rolled out on Memorial Day. They are but tribute ritually paid to the state and its endless wars. For "war is the health of the State", is it not? Preemptive war and global domination have become fixtures of what we have allowed them to turn into an American Empire; a psychology that exaggerates danger from abroad to cause fear, frightening the people into saluting a global military footprint, yielding civil liberties, indulging secrecy over transparency and bestowing on one man omnipotent military and economic power. As patriots we should not forget the warnings from the father of our Constitution and Bill of Rights: "The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home."

So, for that select cabal in our own government, Memorial Day is nothing other than annual worship of state violence.

When veterans are not being praised for their “service” in foreign wars of conquest driven by the prospect of financial gain in some form, our government spends a lot of time demonizing veterans as its enemies.

See Smedley Butler:

http://youtu.be/jruQfJkDLRg

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 24 at 2015 10:34 AM

2015-05-24T10:34:32-04:00

Hi, Major.

Honestly, anything I said to them in response would be neither clean nor respectful.

Response by PO1 Alan John made May 24 at 2015 3:52 PM

2015-05-24T15:52:13-04:00

YES, enough said!

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 24 at 2015 4:02 PM

2015-05-24T16:02:58-04:00

At the end of the day, our brothers and sisters died doing a job that many people, regardless of color, religion, country of origin, etc, wouldn't do. For that alone, the fallen deserve respect from ALL decent people, not just us fellow servicemembers. You would think that CAIR would see that. But then again, they haven't been very decent recently.

Response by LTC Stephen C. made Nov 23 at 2015 10:44 PM

2015-11-23T22:44:17-05:00

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member, it's of absolutely no consequence to me what CAIR thinks about the propriety of Memorial Day.