Of the leading Libertarian Candidates, who would have your vote? Is voting Libertarian like not voting? Is Rand Paul the third wheel?

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 12:47:39 -0500

You do not have to post a comment unless you want. Remember uniformed service members are subject to scrutiny. Please keep this professional. Pretend you are voting Libertarian even if you are not.

This list could be longer but these are suspected front runners; feel free to add a comment about who is not on the list.

This thread is not meant to cause controversy, instead the goal is to get you to explore and do research.

Response by SGT Steven Eugene Kuhn MBA made Feb 12 at 2015 12:50 PM

SGT Steven Eugene Kuhn MBA — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 12:50:24 -0500

To early to tell, I honestly do not believe any of these guys will make it past the first few months.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 16 at 2015 2:16 AM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 16 Feb 2015 02:16:12 -0500

The only reason I voted DP is that he's from Texas. Honestly I'd vote for Rand Paul as a republican, closest-running to libertarian ideals. But to the future prospective no-nonsense candidate, '...may the odds be ever in your favor...'

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 16 at 2015 11:15 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:15:23 -0500

http://reason.com/archives/2015/02/15/the-inherently-humble-libertarian

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 16 at 2015 12:52 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 16 Feb 2015 12:52:16 -0500

http://reason.com/blog/2015/02/12/vince-vaughn-talks-libertarianism-with-p

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 21 at 2015 9:31 AM

PO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 21 Feb 2015 09:31:31 -0500

Unless somebody else just stands out above the rest I'll stand with Rand. Most likely the ones on your list won't get past the initial stages. Is this for the Libertarian ticket or our favorite libertarian candidate?

Response by COL Vincent Stoneking made Feb 21 at 2015 10:48 AM

COL Vincent Stoneking — Sat, 21 Feb 2015 10:48:49 -0500

So, I did not answer the poll. And won't mention a favorite politician here. I wanted to respond to the second sentence of your title.
" Is voting Libertarian like not voting?"

For this exercise, you can replace "Libertarian" with "Constitution", "Green", "Worker's Party", or any other third party.

I realize that it was a teaser, meant to generate interest.... However, there are many that sincerely believe exactly that. They argue that because $PARTY has no chance of willing, you should back the lesser of two evils, and doing anything else is impractical. Generally, these are also the same people who - when the electee does crazy sh$t - state "I didn't vote for X, I voted against Y."

No they didn't.

If you voted to put X in office... You voted FOR X. The same is true whether X ultimately wins or not. The ballot is a means of expressing a direct preference. In the simplest terms, if you vote for X, the message you send - to future politicians - is "I like X." They will then try to be more like X, because they would like to be elected too.

"Not Y" was NOT a choice on the ballot. Pundits may talk about protest votes and the politicians in the very next race may attempt to talk about how the people really believe 1,2, and 3 but were turned off by Y. But the lesson that they will internalize is "X is a winner. They want X. Be like X."

Again, a ballot is a direct means of expressing a preference. If you like neither X nor Y, pick one of the other 24 letters of the alphabet. If the person loses, you at least voted in accordance with your conscience. It is every much as much of a "Not Y" vote AND you signaled what you actually prefer in government. Which MAY (not holding my breath) lead to the next crop of politicians making at least some modest changes to their pitches, if not their views....

Now, for personal thoughts... I think "none of the above" should be a choice on all ballots, and I think he should be able to win. I think a two party system inevitably becomes a one party system in practice over time. I think that complexities that make the legislative process more difficult are a feature, not a bug. I think that the average level of political literacy, memory, and attention among the general population means that none of the above really matters. And I think my coffee may need a little Irish in it.

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Feb 21 at 2015 11:06 AM

Capt Richard I P. — Sat, 21 Feb 2015 11:06:04 -0500

Is Gary Johnson not running?