Odd question, but shouldn't legal entitlements hunters be angry about illegal immigrants and vote against democrats this time?

Maj William Gambrell — Wed, 19 Aug 2015 21:48:26 -0400

I know this is a strange question, but it just popped into my head. We all know there are a lot of people in the US unwilling to work and go out of their way to get free money from the gov't. Shouldn't those people be upset that illegal immigrants are consuming lots of taxpayer money that the gov't/democrats could be giving them?

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Aug 19 at 2015 10:24 PM

Capt Seid Waddell — Wed, 19 Aug 2015 22:24:31 -0400

Only if rationality prevails over ideology.

Response by CSM Charles Hayden made Aug 19 at 2015 11:37 PM

CSM Charles Hayden — Wed, 19 Aug 2015 23:37:23 -0400

MAJ William Gambrell, Sir, Please consider that "these" people are mission focused! Focus=next freebie; not whomever else might be eating from the same pie! I have 'slopped' hogs on a farm; they may shoulder another hog over a bit, but they never eating from the trough. (Public trough) if you wish!)

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Aug 20 at 2015 12:19 AM

SSgt Alex Robinson — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 00:19:43 -0400

The left is pandering like crazy.

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Aug 20 at 2015 12:35 AM

SFC Mark Merino — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 00:35:25 -0400

Rioting is much easier than thinking.

Response by COL Ted Mc made Aug 20 at 2015 1:56 AM

COL Ted Mc — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 01:56:05 -0400

Maj William Gambrell - Major; If "The Welfare Budget" was fixed and then doled out based on the number of people on "welfare" then your argument might possibly resonate with the "non-illegals".

However, "The Welfare Budget" is NOT fixed and the amount of benefits has no relationship to the number of recipients. That means that "A" isn't going to get a dime more just because "B" gets cut off benefits. [What it does mean is that "A" is more likely to become the victim of a crime because "B" needs the money to survive and simply doesn't have sufficient "work skills" to earn enough to survive on. (Petty crime doesn't actually require a lot of "work skills" because the work day is so flexible - as are the "job skills" required.)]

Response by Cpl Chris Rice made Aug 20 at 2015 4:38 AM

Cpl Chris Rice — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 04:38:43 -0400

The average individual will only require welfare for a very short period of time, and when they are on TANF they make less than half of the federal poverty line which illegal immigrants are not authorized to receive. It costs the federal government 12,500 dollars per individual that they deport, these individuals do spend money and pay sales tax so by removing them you potentially remove a revenue stream for the individual states. Also if the individual immediately returns to the US then they repeat the cost, if you imprison them then you have to pay for that as well. Some estimates place it at the 412 Billion for the deportation off all people, plus then you would need to police the border to a much larger level, plus prevent re-entry, plus the money that will now be required of all people who decide to leave the American citizens they gave birth to in the United States and make their way into the foster care system. The Republicans are actually presenting the most expensive solution.

Response by Cpl Tou Lee Yang made Aug 20 at 2015 8:24 AM

Cpl Tou Lee Yang — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 08:24:52 -0400

Did you not know that the majority of the welfare recipient are from Red states. They do vote for Republicans and they do hate liberals. Otherwise why would the southern state keep voting against their best interest? Unfortunately, the majority of the hardworking people who support the Democrat are not ignorant enough to vote for the Republican.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 24 at 2016 12:02 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:02:11 -0400

That's only if you consider every person on welfare to be worthless hive-minds who are more focused on welfare than well-being. But looking at people on the "Left" that way is as bad as people on the "Left" looking at people on the "Right" like they're all racists who hate poor people. Looking at the citizens as the enemy and not the politicians who fail to perform bipartisanly in the interest of the citizens, but rather in the interest of the businesses lining their pockets is the worst way to view your government. The people aren't the enemy, Major, the politicians are. Turning your view away from the fact that our government is trying and succeeding in turning us on each other rather than focusing on getting not only the White House, but Congress in check is exactly their goal. Just a thought.