Obama to send Islamic State war powers request to Capitol Hill

2015-02-10T10:25:01-05:00

From: Army Times

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama is expected — as early as Tuesday — to ask Congress for new war powers, sending Capitol Hill his blueprint for an updated authorization for the use of military force to fight the Islamic State group.

Haggling then begins on writing a new authorization to battle the Sunni extremists, who have seized territory in Iraq and neighboring Syria and imposed a violent form of Sharia law.

That will lead to the first war vote in Congress in 13 years — one of the most important votes faced by members of the House and Senate.

To get Congress to approve his request, Obama must find a balance between lawmakers who want wide authority to fight the Islamic State group and others, including members of his own party, who worry that a new authorization to use military force will lead to U.S. entanglement in another protracted war.

In 2002, Congress passed a resolution authorizing President George W. Bush to use force against Iraq — a vote that scores of Democrats have regretted and then-candidate Barack Obama used as a cudgel against his rivals to win the Democratic presidential nomination.

Obama so far has relied on congressional authorizations that former President Bush used to justify military action after 9/11. Critics say the White House's use of these authorizations to fight the terrorist group is a legal stretch at best. The president earlier insisted he had the legal authority to deploy more than 2,700 U.S. troops in Iraq to train and assist Iraqi security forces, and conduct ongoing airstrikes against targets in Iraq and Syria. More recently, the president has said he wants a new authorization, but has not released details.

Lawmakers expect the White House to issue its language before the end of the week. Obama administration officials have had consultations with both Democrats and Republican lawmakers about provisions of the new authorization it is seeking. So far, no formal language has been submitted, although the White House has completed a draft, a senior congressional official said.

Another congressional official said the president will ask for a three-year authorization so the next president will have to seek renewed authority to fight IS. The official said Obama wants to leave open the option to send in combat forces if needed, but is not seeking an authorization that would permit a prolonged U.S. troop presence on the ground. The White House request also would not restrict the fight to certain geographic locations, but would limit the U.S. to fighting IS militants or any future group that evolves, the official said.

A congressional aide said Democrats will not rubber-stamp the White House version, but will seek to rewrite it to include bipartisan views. Another congressional staffer said the debate in Congress will not necessarily flow along party lines because, for instance, conservative Republicans and liberal Democrats alike have disagreed about two major sticking points: deploying U.S. combat troops and restricting the geographical area served by the new authorization. The second staffer said a final authorization will depend on the language decided on regarding these two issues.

The four congressional officials and staffers spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the ongoing negotiations with the White House.

Before Congress ended its last session in December, Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., who at the time was chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, pushed his version of an authorization that would have limited operations against IS to three years and allowed ground forces in some circumstances. The legislation passed out of the committee, but was never voted on by the full Senate before the session ended.

Menendez said Monday that he has not seen the final language written by the White House, but said more work will need to be done.

"I think a good part of it is how we started in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee," said Menendez, now the ranking Democrat on the committee since Republicans took control of the Senate in January. "But there is a degree for some greater flexibility than what the Senate Foreign Relations (Committee) drafted."

Menendez said: "Finding the balance is the challenge here."

Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, said the new authorization should be flexible enough so it can be used not only against IS, but also against whatever form the group takes in the future, as well as any groups that associate with or support it materially.

"Most importantly, the authorization should not impose any artificial and unnecessary limitations such as those based on time, geography and type of force that could interfere with our strategic objective of defeating Islamic State," Hatch said Monday on the Senate floor.

He said he disagreed with those who want to prohibit the use of ground forces or set an expiration date for the authorization.

Other lawmakers want the new war powers to be narrowly defined in a way that gives the president the authority to train and equip local forces and conduct airstrikes, but not launch a combat mission on the ground.

"I've been clear in opposition to boots on the ground, but I'd like to see what they propose and hear them out," said Sen. Brian Schatz, D-Hawaii. "It's traditional and expected for an administration to articulate their strategy to the Congress, so we want to give them a chance to do so."

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Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2015 12:05 PM

2015-02-10T12:05:33-05:00

Curious why the POTUS is concerned about doing things the 'right way' now, after he has proven he really doesn't care what any of us, or Congress, thinks about his actions and decisions. I don't care for politics and this smells like nothing but political maneuvering on his part.

I also don't like the implications of micromanagement of military operations from Congress - we already have way to much micromanagement from the White House. Give the military a mission and let them tell you what it will take to accomplish it. Accept it or don't - but don't tell the military how to do the job.

Response by Sgt Adam Jennings made Feb 10 at 2015 12:08 PM

2015-02-10T12:08:09-05:00

If any of us think the ROE were ridiculous before we'll stand by.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Feb 10 at 2015 12:20 PM

2015-02-10T12:20:56-05:00

I'm going to refrain from commenting until President Obama actually does something. This sounds like another political balloon used to test public reaction before taking any action.

Response by COL Ted Mc made Feb 10 at 2015 2:13 PM

2015-02-10T14:13:24-05:00

The really interesting thing about the request is that it is incredibly open ended. It reminds me of the "War Authorization" that President GW Bush got in response to the WTC/Pentagon mass murders AND the one that led up to the Vietnam War.

Congress is being asked to authorize the use of any amount of American military force anywhere in the world at any time for the next three years. [Interpretation 1]

Congress is being asked to give the Executive Branch the authority and ability to provide an appropriate and flexible response to those threats we don't know we don't know as well as those threats we know we don't know and those threats we don't know we know as well as those threats we know we know. [Interpretation 2]

The International Muslim Conspiracy is using their Muslichurian President to corrupt America and allow him to use the US military to force all Americans to become Muslims and force our patriotic Cheerleaders to wear burkas while he uses UFOs to dump chem-trails into the atmosphere in order to fluoridate out water and pollute the purity of our bodily essences on behalf of the Anti-Christ. [Interpretation 3]