Oath Keepers intend to prevent US Marshalls from re-arresting Kim Davis. Where do you stand on their position?

MAJ Bryan Zeski — Thu, 10 Sep 2015 19:59:17 -0400

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/oath-keepers-send-armed-guards-protect-kim-davis-us-marshals

I know that there are a fair number of Oath Keepers in the military. Based on opinions I've read here regarding the Kim Davis situation, it doesn't appear that she is well supported by Servicemembers. How do you feel about the Oath Keepers statement that they would prevent U.S. Marshalls from re-arresting Davis if she were held in contempt of court again? Is the Judge overstepping his authority? Are the Oath Keepers straying "out of their lane" in stepping in on behalf of Kim Davis? What do the Oath Keepers here in this community think? Would you step in to stop US Marshalls in this case?

Oath Keepers Send Armed Guards To Protect Kim Davis From US Marshals

The Oath Keepers, the anti-government “Patriot” group that mounted an armed standoff with the Bureau of Land Management at the Bundy Ranch, stationed armed guards outside of military re

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Sep 10 at 2015 8:21 PM

Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS — Thu, 10 Sep 2015 20:21:43 -0400

Extremist group.

Response by SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. made Sep 10 at 2015 10:16 PM

SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. — Thu, 10 Sep 2015 22:16:59 -0400

I thought they lost all their upper management...
I guess they are running commando now.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 11 at 2015 1:34 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 01:34:57 -0400

Then, they would be breaking the law for assisting someone who broke the law. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Sep 11 at 2015 1:52 AM

PO1 William "Chip" Nagel — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 01:52:20 -0400

Another group of Right Wing Crackpots.

Response by SrA Tommy F. Moon made Sep 11 at 2015 3:59 AM

SrA Tommy F. Moon — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 03:59:03 -0400

The Supreme have no authority to make law only the congress they have overstepped their authority they are to interpret law and have law enforced that have been passed by Congress !!! There fore no law has been broken .

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Sep 11 at 2015 4:36 AM

PO1 William "Chip" Nagel — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 04:36:56 -0400

Another article about this.

KENTUCKY: Heavily Armed "Christian Patriot" Militia Vows To Stop Future Arrests Of Kim Davis...

The Oath Keepers, the heavily armed and self-described “Christian patriot” militia who recently appeared in Ferguson, Missouri to “help” the police quell civil unrest, will be on the other side of the law in Kentucky where they have vowed to prevent federal marshals from ever arresting Kim Davis again. Right Wing Watch reports: Oath Keepers ...

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Sep 11 at 2015 6:18 AM

PO1 William "Chip" Nagel — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 06:18:18 -0400

Story as reported by "RawStory".

Oath Keepers put ‘boots on the ground’ to guard oath-breaking Kim Davis from ‘dictator’ judge

The Oath Keepers, an armed, camouflage-wearing volunteer militia famous for hunkering down at Bundy Ranch, now say they have “boots on the ground” to protect Kentucky clerk Kim Davis, who they believe was denied her right to a jury trial.

Response by PVT Robert Gresham made Sep 11 at 2015 7:32 AM

PVT Robert Gresham — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 07:32:40 -0400

This group of "Oath Keepers" has only one goal in mind: To publicize themselves, and to attempt to insert themselves into the duties of representatives of the Government, to cause as many problems as possible for the many, under the guise of helping the few.

They are little better than the "Knights of the Ku Klux Klan" who also only wanted to 'protect the virtue of the poor put upon White landowners, from the yoke of a repressive Government who wouldn't even let them keep their slaves in check'......the nerve !! After all, each State should only have to abide by their own laws.

And according to Kim Davis, God's laws too, as long as she feels they are important.

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Sep 11 at 2015 9:19 AM

COL Jean (John) F. B. — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 09:19:34 -0400

MAJ Bryan Zeski - While they assume no laws were broken by Ms. Davis, there is no question that, by interfering with the arrest of Ms. Davis, they would be breaking the law and should be arrested and prosecuted for doing so. I support the right of people to express their opinion and take action in accordance with the law, but do not condone breaking the law to express their opinions. They do so at their own jeopardy.

Response by SN Greg Wright made Sep 11 at 2015 12:31 PM

SN Greg Wright — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 12:31:49 -0400

So they're going to break the law in order to help someone held in contempt. All that's going to happen is they're going to get a tactical LEO team called in to take them down.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 11 at 2015 1:28 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 13:28:53 -0400

They have gone full-blown psychotic. I hope no violence erupts because of it, and that this shows prospective and current members how deluded the group is, but if it takes their arrest, prosecution, and incarceration to prove their errors then so be it.

Let's bring it back to the military by analogy. Assume you are a company or battalion commander, with UCMJ and command authority. You have been selected and vetted by the military, and authorized to issue binding legal orders which subordinates must follow. Should Soldiers have the option of having a body of their peers decide whether or not they need to follow your orders? No, your power to issue directives and initiate punishment if they are not followed is inherent in your enforcement power. The same with contempt; courts must have enforcement powers or they would become a neutered branch of government.

Also, the notion that the Supreme Court cannot "make law" is, at best, poor semantics or, at worst, flatly wrong. What if Congress decided that no one was allowed to own firearms? By the legislative-supremacy crowd, that would be the law! POTUS cannot choose which laws to enforce and which to ignore, so he/she would be bound to Take Care that the laws be faithfully executed. SCOTUS has no power to declare what the law is, especially when our elected representatives have spoken! Who could step in to uphold the Constitution? The same analogy applies to First/Fourth/Fifth/Sixth/etc. Amendment issues. Legislative-supremists would expect the Court to say "Well, this does seem contrary to the Second Amendment, but Congress said no guns, so no guns!"

Supporting and defending the Constitution is impossible without understanding it. That Constitution sets up three co-equal, sometimes adverse (by design), branches of the federal government.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 11 at 2015 1:52 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 13:52:45 -0400

Oath Keepers isn't just an extremist group founded on John Birch Society style right-wing paranoia; they're one that's been itching for a fight and trying to provoke the U.S. Gov for a while. These were the people pointing guns at federal marshals in support of the also-lawless Cliven Bundy. These were the same people who traveled to Ferguson and Baltimore and tried to inject themselves between protests and police, hoping for a chance to drop a few people and making the situations trickier in the process. They're bat-shit insane, and as far as I'm concerned, they're damn-near traitors to the Constitution in the process.

Response by SrA Edward Vong made Sep 11 at 2015 1:56 PM

SrA Edward Vong — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 13:56:27 -0400

I believe interfering with arrests may lead to arrests themselves. Let them and see what happens.

Response by PFC Joseph Cuschieri made Nov 7 at 2019 6:42 PM

PFC Joseph Cuschieri — Thu, 07 Nov 2019 18:42:58 -0500

Though I do not agree with her actions, I understand them and support her steadfast bravery in the face of great opposition. What the government is doing to her is outside the supreme law of our land, The U.S.Constitution. Good job oath keepers. Keep it up.

Response by SFC Randy Hellenbrand made Jul 25 at 2021 8:46 AM

SFC Randy Hellenbrand — Sun, 25 Jul 2021 08:46:55 -0400

Oath Keepers are traitors. Nuff said.

Response by SPC Jesse Davis made Jul 25 at 2021 12:16 PM

SPC Jesse Davis — Sun, 25 Jul 2021 12:16:50 -0400

Oath Keepers aren't patriots, else they'd let Davis face justice.