SPC Private RallyPoint Member 6217788 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>- My unit &quot;says&quot; it will work with SM during the epidemic<br />- SM has never missed more than an hour due to watching his child<br />- All my soldiers can cover down. They know each other&#39;s jobs. Everyone can cover down.<br />- His wife is a nurse, she can work odd hours and she has.<br />- He is an outstanding SM <br />- Because of Covid-19, he&#39;s more cautious of who watches his child because of certain medical factors<br />- To my knowledge, there is no daycare on the post and Mom and Pops daycare off-post<br />- SM staying home is always a last resort.<br />- My SGT is teleworking for a very similar thing. (change a couple of parts, has the same situation) 2020-08-18T00:07:13-04:00 SPC Private RallyPoint Member 6217788

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>- My unit &quot;says&quot; it will work with SM during the epidemic<br />- SM has never missed more than an hour due to watching his child<br />- All my soldiers can cover down. They know each other&#39;s jobs. Everyone can cover down.<br />- His wife is a nurse, she can work odd hours and she has.<br />- He is an outstanding SM <br />- Because of Covid-19, he&#39;s more cautious of who watches his child because of certain medical factors<br />- To my knowledge, there is no daycare on the post and Mom and Pops daycare off-post<br />- SM staying home is always a last resort.<br />- My SGT is teleworking for a very similar thing. (change a couple of parts, has the same situation)

2020-08-18T00:07:13-04:00 2020-08-18T00:07:13-04:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 6217833

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Technically yes. A counseling is nothing more than documentation about an event. In this case it is about the child care. I would look back at the child care situation. Each base was required to maintain child care for essential workers. At my post we were required to have a memo to enable us to use them. The wife may qualify for this. A counseling isn&#39;t something that is negative. It is a tool to help Soldiers and guide them.

2020-08-18T00:30:03-04:00 2020-08-18T00:30:03-04:00 Maj John Bell 6217842

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;m always leery of answering these types of questions. I&#39;m not sure what constitutes counseling in the Army. In the Marines, nothing made it into an enlisted man&#39;s record book unless it was signed off by the Company Commander. If I was the company commander in this scenario, and the information you&#39;ve presented is a complete picture, the Platoon Leader and the Platoon Sergeant better have one helluva good reason to make it &quot;official.&quot; Then the 1stSgt and I would drink several cups of coffee while we thought about it. If we weren&#39;t both solidly on the same sheet of music, I think we&#39;d be talking to the BnCO and BnSgtMaj.

2020-08-18T00:39:31-04:00 2020-08-18T00:39:31-04:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 6217859

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>A counseling isn’t the end of the world. It just as much a security blanket for the issuing supervisor as it is a plan for improvement. <br /><br />If it isn’t iPerm’d it never happened once the soldier PCS’s

2020-08-18T00:48:15-04:00 2020-08-18T00:48:15-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 6217974

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>SM’s tend to forget that a counseling is not a punitive action. <br /><br />Counseling is just a written document of a conversation. Your NCO does not have the power to punish or reprimand you. I can counsel you that I don’t think your hair color matches your pants; that’s not a punitive action. It also doesn’t mean the commander will recommend UCMJ, which is all that matters

2020-08-18T03:40:00-04:00 2020-08-18T03:40:00-04:00 CSM Darieus ZaGara 6218124

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Is it a developmental counseling, a negative counseling. Have you spoken with the PLT Sgt. To determine what his thoughts are for your Soldier. Commanders always have discretion on latitudes provided to Soldiers for any number of reasons. The Soldier May or may not have taken all steps necessary to support his Family and the Army. <br /><br />You don’t lay out any parameters accept for, this NCOs situation is the same accept it’s not. You likely don’t know all there is to know about that. So get involved with finding a solution that supports the Soldier and the unit. <br /><br />Speak to the Platoon Sergeat, and if you are not satisfied get with the PLT led and the 1SG. Make sure you are correct and inform the PLT Sgt of your intentions. However,?the best thing to do is to work through it with eSoldier and leadership to find an equitable solution.

2020-08-18T05:34:22-04:00 2020-08-18T05:34:22-04:00 Lt Col Jim Coe 6218972

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Take the counseling as an opportunity for the soldier to possibly get. Some assistance. If you’re the supervisor and your PSG thinks you have an underperforming soldier why isn’t the PSG counseling you first? <br /><br />Either way you and soldier need to work out a plan for the soldier to complete his duties correctly. Missing work should be a true emergency situation.

2020-08-18T10:40:26-04:00 2020-08-18T10:40:26-04:00 CMSgt James Nolan 6219466

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>These are unprecedented times. Taking care of the troops is critical, as is taking care of families-if the family unit is jacked up, so is the troop. <br />I would personally only be having a conversation if this was something that was truly a disruption, and/or a pattern of behavior. <br />As a leader I had a tremendous amount of leeway to do as I needed to accomplish the mission, and passed that on to my NCOs. Just like the Commander expected certain things were accomplished, so did I. <br />The reality is that if I can do right by my troops in tough times, they will return that behavior/ethic to me. <br />I would be having a conversation with the Platoon Sgt. (Not a you are wrong conversation, those don’t work well), a real conversation.

2020-08-18T13:31:13-04:00 2020-08-18T13:31:13-04:00 SGM Bill Frazer 6220378

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Please remember- counseling is good &amp; bad. Your troop missed work, doesn&#39;t matter if its 5 minutes or an hour, he still wasn&#39;t there. Therefore a counseling statement. Don&#39;t know where your at, but 1. Everyone has to have a family plan, 2. My units had to be ready to go world wide and be a muster in a little more than an hour. ! Bad is not harmful- 2-3 for same offense is bad. They are cutting slack, because he is good- could just as easily done Art 15, UCMJ does not recognize anything but guilty or innocent.

2020-08-18T18:02:21-04:00 2020-08-18T18:02:21-04:00 SFC Kelly Fuerhoff 6223170

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;m confused...what&#39;s the issue? Does leadership not know he&#39;s going home for an hour to watch the child? What happened? <br /><br />I know that when this all started we all had to do a &quot;covid-counseling&quot; in my directorate that just said we&#39;ll practice hygiene, etc and not go outside the radius, blah blah. That was it. <br /><br />What base are you at there aren&#39;t any CDCs? Or there aren&#39;t any daycares off base? <br /><br />I&#39;m just really confused what the issue is based on the information given.

2020-08-19T13:15:28-04:00 2020-08-19T13:15:28-04:00 SGT Private RallyPoint Member 6224731

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It’s not the end of the world it’s just a paper trail just incase this becomes an ongoing thing for your soldier. Make sure your soldier reads the counseling statement because wants he/she agrees to those terms and doesn’t meet those requirements it’s fair game for anything that your Platoon sgt put down in that counseling.

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