My Grandson recently joined the Army. He failed his two mile run by 30 sec and the Army has sent him home for six months. Why? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-grandson-recently-joined-the-army-he-failed-his-two-mile-run-by-30-sec-and-the-army-has-sent-him-home-for-six-months-why <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div> Wed, 30 Mar 2016 01:04:15 -0400 My Grandson recently joined the Army. He failed his two mile run by 30 sec and the Army has sent him home for six months. Why? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-grandson-recently-joined-the-army-he-failed-his-two-mile-run-by-30-sec-and-the-army-has-sent-him-home-for-six-months-why <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div> TSgt Robert Belcher Wed, 30 Mar 2016 01:04:15 -0400 2016-03-30T01:04:15-04:00 Response by LCpl Daniel Wildman made Mar 30 at 2016 1:28 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-grandson-recently-joined-the-army-he-failed-his-two-mile-run-by-30-sec-and-the-army-has-sent-him-home-for-six-months-why?n=1414652&urlhash=1414652 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Probably cause he failed it more than once you just dont get sent home because you failed it once you would get recycled or a 2 or three tries total usually before your recycled or get sent home LCpl Daniel Wildman Wed, 30 Mar 2016 01:28:52 -0400 2016-03-30T01:28:52-04:00 Response by SGT Jesus Vasquez made Mar 30 at 2016 3:19 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-grandson-recently-joined-the-army-he-failed-his-two-mile-run-by-30-sec-and-the-army-has-sent-him-home-for-six-months-why?n=1414744&urlhash=1414744 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Your not getting the complete story like sgt Gus stated. SGT Jesus Vasquez Wed, 30 Mar 2016 03:19:19 -0400 2016-03-30T03:19:19-04:00 Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 30 at 2016 6:28 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-grandson-recently-joined-the-army-he-failed-his-two-mile-run-by-30-sec-and-the-army-has-sent-him-home-for-six-months-why?n=1414831&urlhash=1414831 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Because he didn't meet the standard that's why. Or there are other things that went on and failed to acclimate to the military. SSG Private RallyPoint Member Wed, 30 Mar 2016 06:28:40 -0400 2016-03-30T06:28:40-04:00 Response by CSM David Hopkins made Mar 30 at 2016 7:50 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-grandson-recently-joined-the-army-he-failed-his-two-mile-run-by-30-sec-and-the-army-has-sent-him-home-for-six-months-why?n=1414961&urlhash=1414961 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Sir, I agree with many of the comments here about you probably not receiving the whole story. I have been in the Army for a couple of days now and have never heard of something like that happening. If a trainee fails to meet the standard I have a hard time believing that the Soldier would be sent home for 6 months. He would have remained there and been put in a physical fitness unit to improve his performance or discharged.<br />If you want to get to the bottom of this I would recommend you call the unit First Sergeant or Command Sergeant Major and simply ask what is going on. Explain to them the information your grandson gave you and then see what they have to say. CSM David Hopkins Wed, 30 Mar 2016 07:50:56 -0400 2016-03-30T07:50:56-04:00 Response by SFC Daniel Faires made Mar 30 at 2016 8:30 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-grandson-recently-joined-the-army-he-failed-his-two-mile-run-by-30-sec-and-the-army-has-sent-him-home-for-six-months-why?n=1415048&urlhash=1415048 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Are you sure they sent him home for six months or did they discharge him ?<br /><br />I haven't met anyone who was sent home for six months for failing anything I have met service members sent home for rehab and medical care.<br /><br />Have you seen a DD 214 ? SFC Daniel Faires Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:30:05 -0400 2016-03-30T08:30:05-04:00 Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 30 at 2016 9:28 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-grandson-recently-joined-the-army-he-failed-his-two-mile-run-by-30-sec-and-the-army-has-sent-him-home-for-six-months-why?n=1415241&urlhash=1415241 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>My guess is that the two mile run is only one of the problems the young man had.<br />Some pointed questions might help clear this up for you. If my radar is functioning correctly, he might need a little help and advice from you. 1SG Private RallyPoint Member Wed, 30 Mar 2016 09:28:09 -0400 2016-03-30T09:28:09-04:00 Response by SrA Jerry Prizevoits made Mar 30 at 2016 9:33 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-grandson-recently-joined-the-army-he-failed-his-two-mile-run-by-30-sec-and-the-army-has-sent-him-home-for-six-months-why?n=1415257&urlhash=1415257 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Sgt. Belcher, Given your rank as a TSGT, I think your gut check will tell you that you are not getting the whole story. If he wanted to stay and stick it out, they would have recycled him as many times as it took, unless he indicated he was done. No disrespect, but I think the young man may not have adapted well to military life. I would take the advice of the others here and call his First Sergeant, politely let him know your rank and then your interest in your grandsons well being. Lastly, don't dig into the boy to hard, the military life is not for everyone.<br /><br />Best of Luck! SrA Jerry Prizevoits Wed, 30 Mar 2016 09:33:13 -0400 2016-03-30T09:33:13-04:00 Response by Col Carlos Messer made Mar 30 at 2016 9:46 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-grandson-recently-joined-the-army-he-failed-his-two-mile-run-by-30-sec-and-the-army-has-sent-him-home-for-six-months-why?n=1415300&urlhash=1415300 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Another interesting discussion here. I agree with several earlier comments highlighting the absence of the "entire story." I will add, TSgt Belcher, that the military is no longer a clearinghouse for individuals who think that they can "join up" while they figure out what to do with their life. We have worked hard to shed that stigma. As the Services get smaller, enforcement of standards will increase. Recruiting is not a problem and we have young Americans waiting in line to join this team. Bottom line, the Services aren't inclined nor do they have the resources to "rehabilitate or accommodate" under-achievers. If you want to play on our team, you have to conform to our standards. As a side note, it's these types of issues that (if not dealt with early) will be inherited at the unit level. Basic training is designed to do exactly what happened. Col Carlos Messer Wed, 30 Mar 2016 09:46:32 -0400 2016-03-30T09:46:32-04:00 Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 30 at 2016 9:57 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-grandson-recently-joined-the-army-he-failed-his-two-mile-run-by-30-sec-and-the-army-has-sent-him-home-for-six-months-why?n=1415336&urlhash=1415336 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I would say that your grandson is keeping some intel from you. MSG Private RallyPoint Member Wed, 30 Mar 2016 09:57:15 -0400 2016-03-30T09:57:15-04:00 Response by TSgt Robert Belcher made Mar 30 at 2016 10:07 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-grandson-recently-joined-the-army-he-failed-his-two-mile-run-by-30-sec-and-the-army-has-sent-him-home-for-six-months-why?n=1415367&urlhash=1415367 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>First of all I would like to thank everyone for their comments, my grandson has wanted to join the army since he was very young child and he is no slacker like many of our young people today, he is very upset that he was sent home and you are correct , I have not had the opportunity to speak with him directly about this so I'm sure I don't have the whole story as yet. I got this information from his mother so details were a little sketchy, but I can assure you he is not the type to take his responsibilities and duties lightly. obviously there is something else going on here and once I have had the opportunity to talk with him directly I will get to the bottom of it. He comes from a family with a strong military background and right now I think he is just too discouraged to talk with me about it because he thinks I will be disappointed in him and that is certainly not the case. We are extremely proud of the young man he has become. TSgt Robert Belcher Wed, 30 Mar 2016 10:07:29 -0400 2016-03-30T10:07:29-04:00 Response by SFC J Fullerton made Mar 30 at 2016 2:31 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-grandson-recently-joined-the-army-he-failed-his-two-mile-run-by-30-sec-and-the-army-has-sent-him-home-for-six-months-why?n=1416280&urlhash=1416280 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Most likely he has been an entry level separation and discharged with an RE code 3 (Re-Entry). Even medical issues/injuries in Initial Entry Training that have an extended recovery time will result in discharge. Depending on the separation code, an RE code 3 usually means that the person can re-apply for enlistment 6 or 12 months after discharge, provided the condition for separation no longer exists, and a RE-Code waiver is granted by the service in which applying for. When they out process the training base and have the DD214 explained to them, they are usually told that the RE 3 code means that they can come back in after a waiting period. Pretty sure that is where the "re-try in 6 months" is coming from. I know this from experience as an Army recruiter, as we are who they have to see in 6 or 12 months if they want back in. Depending on the nature of separation, getting an RE code waiver approved can be difficult. Also, given the current posture of the recruiting mission, RE code waivers on prior service may not even be considered, period. As others have mentioned, best to get the Paul Harvey on this and go from there. SFC J Fullerton Wed, 30 Mar 2016 14:31:43 -0400 2016-03-30T14:31:43-04:00 Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Mar 30 at 2016 9:08 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-grandson-recently-joined-the-army-he-failed-his-two-mile-run-by-30-sec-and-the-army-has-sent-him-home-for-six-months-why?n=1417288&urlhash=1417288 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="477229" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/477229-tsgt-robert-belcher">TSgt Robert Belcher</a> As a former DS, I can say there is more to the story than 30 seconds. If it was 30 seconds, he'd been retested, maybe even recycled. Two sides to a door. SGM Mikel Dawson Wed, 30 Mar 2016 21:08:08 -0400 2016-03-30T21:08:08-04:00 Response by SrA Matthew Knight made Apr 1 at 2016 8:27 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-grandson-recently-joined-the-army-he-failed-his-two-mile-run-by-30-sec-and-the-army-has-sent-him-home-for-six-months-why?n=1422690&urlhash=1422690 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I guess I can't speak for the Army but I know in the Air Force if you go long enough either in BMT or Tech School failing to meet the standards they can separate you and I think the lay-over time between separation and you being able to try again is 6 months. The 6 months is probably to make sure they are truly ready to give it another shot. Wouldn't want someone who got separated to sign up again 2 days later only to fail out again.<br /><br />My guess is he almost had to have failed multiple APFTs by now to get discharged. Again, I can't speak for the Army but with the AF even in BMT you won't get separated for failing just one. They will try their damnest to get you into shape since they already spent money to get you there.<br /><br />Just tell him to keep working on his fitness and if he feels ready to give it another go. 6 months is plenty of time to get into good enough shape to make it. SrA Matthew Knight Fri, 01 Apr 2016 20:27:20 -0400 2016-04-01T20:27:20-04:00 Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 3 at 2016 11:37 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-grandson-recently-joined-the-army-he-failed-his-two-mile-run-by-30-sec-and-the-army-has-sent-him-home-for-six-months-why?n=1425222&urlhash=1425222 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>When I went through basic they would just recycle you. Only time I seen someone get separated is when someone got hurt and need few months to heal up. I remember being told by my Troop commander and/or Squadron commander that the quickest way out of basic was to get thru it. SPC Private RallyPoint Member Sun, 03 Apr 2016 11:37:16 -0400 2016-04-03T11:37:16-04:00 Response by SSG Ron Shields made Apr 3 at 2016 1:32 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-grandson-recently-joined-the-army-he-failed-his-two-mile-run-by-30-sec-and-the-army-has-sent-him-home-for-six-months-why?n=1425446&urlhash=1425446 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>30 seconds is a lot to miss the score. What ever the reason he missed has no point, have to at least meet the standard. SSG Ron Shields Sun, 03 Apr 2016 13:32:24 -0400 2016-04-03T13:32:24-04:00 Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 3 at 2016 1:55 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-grandson-recently-joined-the-army-he-failed-his-two-mile-run-by-30-sec-and-the-army-has-sent-him-home-for-six-months-why?n=1425495&urlhash=1425495 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>something doesn't pass the smell test on this....<br /><br />1st of all, the Army would not just send him home if he failed after 1 try. they would give him another chance.<br /><br />2nd if he failed the second time then either a....he would get recycled to try again or b.....be sent to a pt platoon for more pt training.<br /><br />the army has already put in a lot of time and money to train your grandson, so you might want to dig a little deeper into what is really going on with him. maybe he couldn't hack it, maybe he got injured and was sent home, but he was not sent home for a 1 time failed pt test. PFC Private RallyPoint Member Sun, 03 Apr 2016 13:55:03 -0400 2016-04-03T13:55:03-04:00 Response by SrA Manuel Bacallao made Apr 3 at 2016 2:07 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-grandson-recently-joined-the-army-he-failed-his-two-mile-run-by-30-sec-and-the-army-has-sent-him-home-for-six-months-why?n=1425508&urlhash=1425508 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>He didn't meet the qualifications. Get over it! SrA Manuel Bacallao Sun, 03 Apr 2016 14:07:49 -0400 2016-04-03T14:07:49-04:00 Response by SSgt Dan Montague made Apr 3 at 2016 3:01 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-grandson-recently-joined-the-army-he-failed-his-two-mile-run-by-30-sec-and-the-army-has-sent-him-home-for-six-months-why?n=1425630&urlhash=1425630 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I was a recruiter. The kids had to pass an initial strength test before they shipped to boot camp. If they got there and failed the IST , they were held back from training. I forget how many tries they had, but at a certain point they are sent home. The Army may be the same as well. SSgt Dan Montague Sun, 03 Apr 2016 15:01:00 -0400 2016-04-03T15:01:00-04:00 Response by CPL Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 26 at 2019 11:42 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-grandson-recently-joined-the-army-he-failed-his-two-mile-run-by-30-sec-and-the-army-has-sent-him-home-for-six-months-why?n=4488088&urlhash=4488088 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I went to Ft. Benning in 2004 as an 11c. I failed the hell out of my first PT Test. I failed my second one. By the third one I scored a 280. I know that’s been a long time ago and the needs of the army were different, but they would never kick anyone out over pt, just recycle them forever. CPL Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 26 Mar 2019 23:42:09 -0400 2019-03-26T23:42:09-04:00 Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 27 at 2019 12:20 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-grandson-recently-joined-the-army-he-failed-his-two-mile-run-by-30-sec-and-the-army-has-sent-him-home-for-six-months-why?n=4489499&urlhash=4489499 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Is your grandson on active duty or did he enlist for the reserves? They may have sent him back to his reserve unit to come back and try again at that particular school in six months. With the Army reserve it’s common to join a unit and not go to basic training for a few months, and then come home for an extended period of time before going to your MOS training. If you get there and feel the PT test, they just send you home your unit send you back at a later date. Could this be what has happened? LTC Private RallyPoint Member Wed, 27 Mar 2019 12:20:04 -0400 2019-03-27T12:20:04-04:00 Response by LCpl Jeff Moore made Mar 27 at 2019 12:42 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-grandson-recently-joined-the-army-he-failed-his-two-mile-run-by-30-sec-and-the-army-has-sent-him-home-for-six-months-why?n=4489567&urlhash=4489567 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>How long was he in for? Was he still in boot camp, or had he graduated? Was he making the run time before he went? Something isn&#39;t right here and he not telling you the full story. I suspect the run story is a cover. LCpl Jeff Moore Wed, 27 Mar 2019 12:42:58 -0400 2019-03-27T12:42:58-04:00 Response by Don Messer made Mar 28 at 2019 4:07 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/my-grandson-recently-joined-the-army-he-failed-his-two-mile-run-by-30-sec-and-the-army-has-sent-him-home-for-six-months-why?n=4491383&urlhash=4491383 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Ive seen crazier things. I was sick for a PT test, and failed by one push up. It got me discharged. I had a spotless record, and had seen combat. It was terribly disheartening, but it turned out to be the best thing that ever hapoened to me. I spent the next 23 years in law enforcement, where the requirements were much higher. Don Messer Thu, 28 Mar 2019 04:07:16 -0400 2019-03-28T04:07:16-04:00 2016-03-30T01:04:15-04:00