Militiamen in Nevada.....Patriots or Domestic terrorist actions against BLM? Just want to see where people stand on this.

2014-04-26T13:29:55-04:00

They had weapons. They were ready to shoot federal officials and seem to have no problem in doing so. These self-styled militiamen claim to be defending liberty. What they are really supporting is Bundy’s freedom to ignore court rulings that say he owes more than $1.1 million in grazing fees that he has refused to pay, even as his cattle have eaten their fill on BLM land for two decades. Why does he think he, unlike 16,000 other ranchers in the West, should not have to pay his share? Because, Bundy says, his family worked the public land in question long before the feds showed up with their rules and regulations.

Response by MAJ Steve Sheridan made Apr 26 at 2014 3:22 PM

2014-04-26T15:22:03-04:00

Tough question.

The issue I have is the Fed gov't excessive use of force, which brought militiamen (right or wrong) to the scene.

Bundy is not a poster child for sure, especially with what he has said since then.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Apr 26 at 2014 5:39 PM

2014-04-26T17:39:47-04:00

Well Armed Racist Deadbeat. Not any different than the ones we have in Southern Missouri. I don't view anyone that takes up arms against Federal Officers as a "Patriot". I have lots of Friends in various Police Agencies to Include Federal and I have nothing but contempt for the likes of someone that steals from the American Public and then takes up arms agains those charged with enforcing our laws.

Response by MSgt David Mata made Apr 27 at 2014 7:25 PM

2014-04-27T19:25:17-04:00

Devil's Advocate here: What if it had been the Crips/Bloods/MS13/18th st. etc., gang members facing down Federal Agents? Would the response taken still be appropriate? I would think not because it would now be HYPOCRITICAL of the Gov't to do something to any other group which takes arms and stands up against the United States Government...

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 2 at 2014 9:11 AM

2014-08-02T09:11:31-04:00

"Stand your ground. Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here." Captain John Parker, April 19th, 1775 at Lexington Green

The Patriots at the Bundy Ranch were not so much defending Bundy and/or all the legal wrangling that had transpired before. They were opposing the heavy-handed federal presence that was stomping on Americans' Liberty. It was a convenient reason for a public show of force, a drawing of a line in the sand (literally), and Americans saying, "No more!"

Since the Bundy Ranch incident, the BLM has begun trying to seize private lands on both banks of the Red River between Texas and Oklahoma based on erosion of the riverbanks by the river. BLM has been pushing hard all over the country to seize privately held land. The EPA is and has been attempting to claim sovereignty over every puddle, every stream, every trickle of water (including rain barrels) in the US. This is federal overreach.

The federal government has been using some very heavyhanded tactics to enforce questionable policies as of late. The People are signalling that they will NOT allow it anymore. Why are federal agencies like the EPA, US Postal Service, the IRS, the Dept of Education, etc. being armed like they are going into combat? Why are WE Veterans being labeled as "domestic terrorists" by the DHS? Think about some of these things, and then ask yourself if The People (as in We The People) are justified in standing up to a tyrannical federal government.

Response by SPC Kevin Ford made Oct 9 at 2016 10:41 AM

2016-10-09T10:41:47-04:00

Criminals, plain an simple.

Response by CPT Pedro Meza made Oct 10 at 2016 12:33 PM

2016-10-10T12:33:14-04:00

Mental Illness and selfishness work hand in hand, and manifest in different manners.