Maryland governor calls up National Guard after roving gangs attack police, torch patrol car and store. Thoughts?

2015-04-27T22:22:12-04:00

Did the MD Governor take his time?

Is this a Guard function?

How long before this spreads city to city...?

This is 8 up from the ground up...

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 27 at 2015 10:26 PM

2015-04-27T22:26:26-04:00

Yes this falls into part of the Guards mission

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Support_of_Civil_authorities

Defense Support of Civil authorities - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Defense Support of Civil Authorities (DSCA) is the process by which United States military assets and personnel can be used to assist in missions normally carried out by civil authorities. These missions have included: responses to natural and man-made disasters, law enforcement support, special events, and other domestic activities. A recent example of the use of DSCA is the military response to Hurricane Katrina. DSCA is the overarching...

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Apr 27 at 2015 10:28 PM

2015-04-27T22:28:38-04:00

All depends what the Guard's mission is, hopefully just containment at the city limits and highway patrols. I'm hoping the ROE are VERY, VERY explicit

Response by SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. made Apr 27 at 2015 10:33 PM

2015-04-27T22:33:05-04:00

This indicates a complete breakdown in the civil police.
Reminds me of Watts '65

BTW ... Baltimore makes Detroit look like a vacation destination.

Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Apr 27 at 2015 10:32 PM

2015-04-27T22:32:56-04:00

Use of the NG to restore order during a civil disturbance is generally under the umbrella of State Active Duty, directed by the Governor. I say generally as each state has different laws that constrain or restrain either the NG or the Governor or both in this situation. The determination is for the Governor and his team.

Response by SSG Trevor S. made Apr 27 at 2015 10:41 PM

2015-04-27T22:41:38-04:00

I hate to say it, and definitely don't want to see it, but according to the Constitution even the active Army can be pulled into this from what I read.

Section. 8.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
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To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 27 at 2015 11:50 PM

2015-04-27T23:50:20-04:00

In a second this could be Watts all over...before my time....but barely.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 28 at 2015 6:47 AM

2015-04-28T06:47:25-04:00

I agree that has got out of hand. Governors are always reluctant to call in the Guard into a City. There are a lot of political ramifications. The Governors is basically saying that the Mayor can't protect their our citizens. It may look like the Governors is strong arming the Mayor as now the Governor has a force on the ground that he controls in the city. I have no faith in the Mayor in that city.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 28 at 2015 10:47 AM

2015-04-28T10:47:45-04:00

Show me how we detain those assholes across the ocean...We shouldn't have to use deadly force against the people we swore to protect but if they have no regards for our lives or for anything else at all then that's when they become the domestic terrorist ... That's when that big question comes into play...wtf? I can see the pressure that would be put on higher up to decide what to do but at least arresting and detaining and trying to figure out some type of peaceful order would be a good start...and to stop trying to act out this political blindness that they all seem to do...call the bs how it is and test as such...too easy

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 28 at 2015 11:11 AM

2015-04-28T11:11:48-04:00

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member this is something not new for me, in Puerto Rico the NG had been activated more than once to fight drug wars crimes. I don't remember wich discusion exactly I was talking with CPT Private RallyPoint Member but yes, this is something common for me. Ironic that I come from Puerto Rico to Maryland to see the same crime scenario...

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Apr 28 at 2015 12:20 PM

2015-04-28T12:20:30-04:00

I hope they are trained at crowd control. Will they be issued sticks and riot gear?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 28 at 2015 7:38 PM

2015-04-28T19:38:57-04:00

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qgT3l7nm8aQ

CNN’s Brooke Baldwin; Military Veterans caused Baltimore riots
Jonn Lilyea | April 28, 2015

Someone sent a link to Breitbart which reports that this ditz, Brook Baldwin blamed military veterans for the violence last night in Baltimore because…reasons!

[S]he said of young military veterans who become police officers, “I love our nation’s veterans, but some of them are coming back from war, they don’t know the communities, and they are ready to do battle.”

The context was a discussion about increased training and retraining for the Baltimore police.

Yeah, she loves veterans. Most of the veterans I know are tired of the battle. That’s why they come home. It’s just CNN and their morons trying to take whacks at veterans and the troops because folks who sacrifice for military service enjoy so much support in the country. But the stank ass hippies don’t like the fact that they can’t spit on veterans any more.

She should go to Panama City where she can find some support among the Spring Breaker frat brothers.

I’d point out to the little idiot that 15 police officers were injured last night in Baltimore, the mayor and the governor decided that it was uniformed National Guardsmen who could solve the problem that the actual culpable parties had created. Ditz.

This is what passes for an apology in her world.
Folks. Please don't misunderstand me. Dear friends/family of mine are veterans. I was repeating a concern vocalized to me lately. That's it.

Category: Dumbass Bullshit

CNN Anchor on Baltimore Riots: Some Veterans Are Coming Home 'Ready to do Battle'

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 29 at 2015 7:26 AM

2015-04-29T07:26:07-04:00

Coming from active duty army to NG I feel that the NG is better trained in situations like this. I know my state has numerous Non-lethal kits for riots and TCP. On top of that I know a few states that have been issued standby orders.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made May 10 at 2015 6:05 PM

2015-05-10T18:05:15-04:00

The irony is federal funds are paying for the call ups.