Kansas regents prepare to open universities to guns under new law; what do you think of this?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 07 Oct 2015 22:48:36 -0400

http://madworldnews.com/fed-oregon-shooting-kansas/

I personally think this is a great idea. I first noticed this article and I don't rely on one article for my views. This backs it up:

http://www.kansas.com/news/local/education/article37900224.html

Fed Up After Oregon Shooting, Kansas Took BOLD Action For College Campuses

As the nation continues to mourn the horrific tragedy that unfolded at an Oregon community college, Kansas decided it was going to do something to keep college students safe. Not only do lawmakers have a bold plan, but it’ll likely be heralded by many on the right, who know the best way to ensure everyone’s safety.

Response by PVT Robert Gresham made Oct 7 at 2015 10:52 PM

PVT Robert Gresham — Wed, 07 Oct 2015 22:52:54 -0400

It's one of the most sensible approaches to the possibility of gun violence that I've read in awhile. It's a fact that gun free zones don't work. I think that Kansas got it right.

Response by CSM Charles Hayden made Oct 7 at 2015 11:07 PM

CSM Charles Hayden — Wed, 07 Oct 2015 23:07:01 -0400

SGT Private RallyPoint Member LOADED?

Response by SSG Gerhard S. made Oct 7 at 2015 11:07 PM

SSG Gerhard S. — Wed, 07 Oct 2015 23:07:29 -0400

I think it's a step in the right direction. I hope other States follow suit.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 8 at 2015 7:50 AM

PO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 07:50:58 -0400

... we will see in long run ... how the other side react to this...

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 8 at 2015 7:59 AM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 07:59:01 -0400

I agree, SGT Private RallyPoint Member. On my way back from Fort Meade today, where some nut crashed a car he carjacked last night (so the post is essentially closed), I heard a report from Roseburg, Oregon. Some folks in that community are fed up and want to buy their own guns to defend themselves. And they don't want President Obama to visit if he's only coming to denounce gun owners and gun ownership.

I still believe in that right. It's a basic right, and if it gets taken away or severely restricted, then the crazies and the criminals will have an even easier time of it.

Think of the folks who live on Fort Meade today. The person who crashed the stolen car into a gate (fence?) at Meade reportedly ran ONTO (incredibly) Fort Meade to escape. I'll bet the Fort Meade residents who do not own a gun wish they had some way to protect themselves with that person on the lam, on base.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Oct 8 at 2015 8:12 AM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 08:12:06 -0400

If I recall correctly the college that the shooting occurred at already allowed concealed carry at it's location. Didn't seem to help.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 8 at 2015 8:21 AM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 08:21:48 -0400

SGT Christopher Stanley, Thank you. I believe the benefits of this legislation far outweigh any costs to the students and faculty.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Oct 8 at 2015 2:31 PM

CPT Jack Durish — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 14:31:28 -0400

To be honest, when I first heard of jurisdictions in the U.S. relaxing the requirements for carry concealed permits, I was concerned. Those of us who have served know the measures we had to take to insure gun safety even in a combat zone. I well remember halting each patrol before we entered the base camp perimeter so I could move to the front of the line and inspect each weapon to insure that it was cleared before entering. I well remember the discipline enforced on firing lines at training facilities in CONUS. Imagine all those "undisciplined" civilians carrying loaded weapons in a community. I was, like I said, concerned.

Then came the actual results. Sure there's some nutter here and there hurting themselves and others through careless handling of loaded weapons. But not so many incidents as I might have feared. Then I began to see the precipitous drop in violent crime in those jurisdictions. Concealed carry it turns out had a greater impact on criminals than open carry. Criminals simply couldn't know who was armed and who wasn't. This made everyone a potential danger if they decided to engage in criminal activity.

Obviously, we're not going to allow students in grade schools to carry weapons. They obviously don't have the judgement to handle them safely (well most don't and there are some adults whom I would trust less than some children I know). I would even consider restricting concealed carry to upper class members. I was just 17 when I entered college, little more than a child myself.

At least with some colleges taking the risk, we'll have a practical demonstration of how it works. Let's hold our breaths and await judgment...

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 8 at 2015 6:27 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 18:27:12 -0400

The state of Idaho passed a law similar to this in the 2014 legislative session.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Oct 8 at 2015 6:44 PM

MCPO Roger Collins — Thu, 08 Oct 2015 18:44:49 -0400

Not wild about large numbers of kids packing. My preference is Rent a cops and/or a number of faculty members through out our campuses using concealed carry.