ISIS would agree there shouldn't be Christians on RallyPoint. Is it right to strike one religion for the sins of another?

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How do you feel about religion.

Why are people sensitive about religion.

God bless everyone.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 16 at 2015 11:31 AM

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This post is meant to kick the horse and provoke.

Response by CW2 Joseph Evans made Feb 16 at 2015 12:18 PM

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The problem isn't religion in and of itself. The problem is the evangelicals and the fundamentalists. You believe in God, great, more power to you. But if you put your foot on my neck in order to "convert" me, regardless of what you claim to be your god, we got issues.
Wear your cross, carry your cross, I don't care. I just don't want to hear about about how you were saved again today.

http://forward.com/articles/214824/christian-idaho-woman-converts-jewish-neighbor-/

Response by TSgt Joshua Copeland made Feb 16 at 2015 12:19 PM

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people are always the problem.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 20 at 2015 2:08 PM

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ISIS is a group of psychopaths hiding under the banner of religion. Anyone who kills for religion is not truly religious - they're just looking to justify their behavior. These so-called muslims kill other muslims randomly.

Response by SSG Leonard Johnson made Feb 20 at 2015 3:24 PM

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I'm glad you posted this, and forgive me for giving titles, however people from the loony left will always try to suppress freedom of religion, expression, and speech when it doesn't agree with their side.
I've noticed this probably since about mid 90's when I started to pay attention

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 16 at 2015 3:50 PM

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I am 100% Christian, but if you really thought about things, Religion is a big root of a lot of problems. I wish people would take the bible as for what it says and not read too much into things.

People read too much in the Koran (which is written by the devil himself, I believe) and you have ISIS when such things do occur.

NO I AM NOT COMPARING A LOVING GOD & JESUS TO SOMEONE LIKE ALLAH AND THE PEDOPHILE (I meant Prophet) Muhammad.

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 16 at 2015 5:16 PM

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My thought is why do you care so much if you don't believe? I think that prayers shouldn't be religion specific at military events but more generalized. And atheist chaplains don't make sense it's like a contradictory statement. But back to my original point stop trying to infringe on the rights of people. It doesn't make sense especially when we are the people who fight to allow these rights to be practiced but we want to try and diminish those rights? I don't understand. If you don't believe than that's fine but don't hinder other people's right to believe.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 16 at 2015 6:33 PM

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I'm confused as well. Are you suggesting it's okay for a member of ISIS to be on RP if he/she were ex-military??

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 16 at 2015 6:51 PM

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this evil cult religion they want to die to see Allah I think we should help them to meet their goal and send them on their way it's real easy to do we just gotta have a president's got the guts to do it

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 16 at 2015 10:13 PM

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I agree with Maj Dews and that it is so widespread that it becomes pandemic and spreading like wildfire. Stress Pandemic.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2015 4:13 AM

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The Catholic Church turned religion into a for - profit business...look at their wealth...and try to disagree.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2015 9:52 AM

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I hate religion! I am a Christian who lives and strives daily to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. Man (kind) made religion, that's why there is so much confusion, turmoil and such a big mess of it.

Response by MSgt Robert Pellam made Mar 17 at 2015 4:28 PM

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Ah nothing gets a good Rally Point discussion going as religion. Might as well toss my hat in the ring.

Here is my belief. Religion in itself is not bad. Its when people use religion against other people that it no longer becomes religion but a control mechanism to gain.

There are countless examples through History how religion has been used as a tool to control people, populations, and nations. Not one religion is free from this either as all have been used in one way or another to harm, hurt, take over and or control humans.

But in the same instance all religions have been used as a sign of hope, a way of healing, a support of faith in humanity. It is what ever it needs to be for people who use it for good or evil.

I believe in God. Do i understand God, no. Do I think anyone can understand God, no. Why? Because human beings do not have the capacity to think in anywhere the same level as God, or a being you may wish to represent a divine figure.

If God is the Alpha and Omega, as stated in the bible, that mean all things are one to him. He is the beginning and the end of time. So "TIME" exists to God all at once. Now as a human, comprehend that...

Take everything you can remember, Everything you know and everything you think you are going to learn and Jam that into a new born babies head at once. That is a lot of info. Now multiply that by 7 Billion (number of People on earth about now may be off by a billion). That is a lot more info. Then Multiply that by about 10 Billion (thats an estimate of the amount of people that have come and gone since we shall say 1AD). Oh and lets toss in another 50 billion as that is how many more humans will inhabit the earth for the next 500 years. And boom.. all in a newborn baby.. all those memory's all at once. And by the way.. that is just memories, I am not talking emotions, dreams, realities or anything else.

Still comprehend??

Yes that is what I believe. God is everything, everywhere and all things.

Religion is the human way to understand God.

Humans can not understand God.

This is just my belief. No proof exists but its my rational thought on God and religion.

Response by Capt Jeff S. made Mar 17 at 2015 5:22 PM

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I have no problem with accommodating any religion that isn't trying to kill others in order to spread its influence, or trying to coerce the military into changing its dress code in order to accommodate its religious traditions.

* Muslims in our military? I'm not keen on it simply because their so-called "religion of peace" recognizes no higher governing authority than Islam, no greater justice system than Sharia (which hasn't advanced beyond 7th century barbarism), and thus their loyalty is always suspect. Maj Hassan is a prime example. I'm glad he got the death penalty. Part of me wishes that he could be put to death according to the Sharia customs as interpreted by the Daesh -- kind of like what happened with the Jordanian pilot... but we're better than that.

* Sikhs wearing turbans and not cutting their hair? I don't think so. If they can't conform to our military dress code, they always have the option to not volunteer for service.

* Mormons in the military? I see nothing wrong with that and have served with a few and they tended to be above norms...

* Jews wearing Yarmulkes in uniform? I've not witnessed it. If they put one on at the chapel I'm okay with that so long as they aren't doing it in the workplace or out in public.

* Wiccans? Not into their religion and in my own experience dealing with them, they tend to be odd ducks... But if they can do their jobs and act like professionals, there's no logical reason to be against them serving.

Response by SGT Tyler G. made Mar 18 at 2015 5:35 AM

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I view religion as sometimes harmful usually harmless but definitely outdated construct. However I also believe in freedom and choice, and so as long as the rights of others aren't infringed by your pursuit of your religions tenets, we can get along just fine. By all means display it in public, but keep it out of government, keep it out of policy, and keep it out of schools.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 18 at 2015 7:44 AM

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The major world religions at one time or another have killed in the name of their god's. This is something I simply cannot understand since these same religions all claim to be peaceful.

And while I would defend the right of people to peacefully practice their religion, I see no reason to believe in it myself.

That being said, some religions have no place in this world due to the fanatical ways in which it is practiced.

Response by SSgt Joe V. made Mar 18 at 2015 10:45 AM

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Religion is fine to a point - Islam has its issues, Christianity has its issues, Wiccan has its issues, the list goes on. The problem arises when these centuries old religions are interpreted differently and used against other religions and people. The radical Christians of old had issues with interpretation (some would say they still do from time to time - Is it really ok to be judgmental of a person's chosen religion if your own religion specifically tells you not to judge others?)...radical Islamists have issues with interpretation (is it really ok to be stupid and wage a 'holy war' when in fact there is nothing holy about it?)...Wiccan is just weird...

So I say, To each their own, but if you go radical and start chopping heads off innocent people, expect your religion to be chewed up and spit out. If you start killing in the name of your religion, then you have a short-circuit that needs fixing (now if we can just get a president that is willing to actually lead that...).

History would show that, unfortunately, Islam has had numerous people with a disconnected wire since the beginning of recorded time...and frankly, I am an amoeba in this regard (and maybe biased), there is no answer but to unleash JTAC's on the stupid ones and see what happens...

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 18 at 2015 12:47 PM

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Religions should be treated like sexual preference. I will probably be able to guess what you are by your mannerisms but neither you nor I should discuss it.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 18 at 2015 2:27 PM

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I am an atheist. I am rather indifferent about people's personal religion choice, but I feel that attitudes, policies, leadership philosophies, laws, regulations, mission statements, etc. that cannot stand on their own without reference to god(s) have no place outside of the individual's home.

Basically, if it affects anyone outside of your immediate family, religion and/or your religious beliefs should not be part of it and shouldn't be mentioned.

I have no issues if your religious beliefs helped you get to your point of view, but if you cannot translate that into leadership philosophy, policy, mission statement, regulation, etc. without reference to that religion, it's not a valid standard to expect anyone besides yourself to follow.

The ONLY exception to this is if your job is literally religion related (Chaplain, church grounds-keeper, Rabbi, etc.).

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 18 at 2015 2:39 PM

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There is a difference between being religious, and being a true believer. I am not religious. Though in the the case of religion, I believe it should be spread through the influence of faith. Not violence and murder. I am a Christian, and it's teachings are based on God's love of humanity as a whole, and how we should love humanity as He loves us. Not "I am going to destroy you for not believing what I believe." If ISIS is using their religion to justify conquest, then that clearly separates them from Christians. I know many would argue that during the Middle Ages us Christians did the same, but any man who wages war in the name of religion is wrong. But know that true Christians are not those men. Just like true Muslims are not murderous savages. I am not sure what the Koran teaches, and if it truly does state to kill "infidels", then know that there is nowhere in the bible that endorses murder of a non-Christians.

Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 18 at 2015 9:54 PM

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Behead me, crucify me or burn me alive already with the religion, religion, religion, religion, religion, religion topics on rallypoint. There simply has to more to life than religion on rallypoint. I've got a great idea. Religionpoint.com the social networking site where you can belittle and drown people in your beliefs, because each and every person knows more about religion than each and every person. Did I mention the word religion yet?

There should be a religion filter and a block on repeat posts on religionpoint, I mean rallypoint.

I actually went in to reading some of the comments at first and to no surprise there was some female claiming the Kuran to be the devil's best work. That's exactly what I'm talking about. THIS. I bet I'll get bashed for my overdose of sarcasm on the matter but members of that said religion would applaud that female's "bravery". Too much of something is never a good thing.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 18 at 2015 10:50 PM

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People could be sensitive toward religion because of the atrocities community against humanity in the name of religion or a god / diety (lower case used intentionally). History is repeat with examples in every denomination.

Church attendance is down. Free thinking is up.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 19 at 2015 2:43 AM

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I am not religious, I could care less for religion. On that same note, I respect religion as long as the people practicing it do not use it as a justification to throw their ideals down people's throats.

Response by SPC James Mcneil made Mar 19 at 2015 7:06 AM

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Wow... So, I'm going to address the title of this post first. I'm sure ISIS and other groups would love to see Christians not on this internet forum or others like it. But they're not likely to get their way. And to strike one religion for the sins of another? You lost me there.

Now to go on to address the actual questions you brought forward. I am a Christian, and I believe very strongly in my reconciled relationship with my creator and savior. However, having said that I am not a fan of organized religion.

Why are people so sensitive about religion? Well, for one thing people don't like the idea that they could be wrong. I'll admit I'm not a fan of it either, but I do know enough to know that I don't know everything. To admit that opens me up to the idea that I could be wrong.

Response by SGT Ben Keen made Mar 19 at 2015 12:41 PM

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Okay, so I sat here looking at this post for the last few days and I am now finally voicing my thoughts.

First off, the title of this post gives the impression that if you doesn't openly state your beliefs in a public forum than you are some how on the same level as these crazy idiots running around the Middle East cutting off heads and destroying everything we did in that region. This leads me to my first question, why do some people feel the need to try and guilt people into sharing their faith? Two things that are really touchy for people to talk about are faith and politics because for a lot of us, these two factor so heavily into our personal character. For me, I can tell you this. My father is a minister. Has been for 37 years and he does a great job. However, being raised in the church and in a world where my every move was picked apart by people who on Sunday talked about forgiveness but on Monday were at the local breakfast spot judging others. My dad even did a sermon on this very thing after one Sunday someone pretty much bullied me because I couldn't quote a certain verse from the Bible. Yet when I asked them to recall John 3:16 they couldn't.

I now how a love/hate relationship with religion and with church itself. I support my dad and always will but I personally don't see the need to go to a building and stand around with others. I can worship my God anywhere I am. If that be on my bike riding down some of the great paths here in Pittsburgh or out with my camera helping someone by snapping photos of special events in their lives to sitting at the Pens game praying that the Defense actually shows up.

With all that being said, as someone that has been on this site and active on this site since it went public, I don't feel religion has a place here in the forums. This is supposed to be a place where we can share ideas and thoughts and help each other grow professionally and to be a good support structure for each other. These type of topics, along with overly political posts, only serve to drive a wedge further between us.

I'm not saying you can't openly talk about your faith. If that is what you feel you are being lead to do, then do it. However, please note that not everyone is there with you. Don't try to force your views on anyone and especially don't try to say someone that doesn't agree with you is in the same category as these crazy, deranged idiots known as the ISIS.

Response by PO2 David Hagwood made Apr 3 at 2015 3:25 AM

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What I don't understand is that I've met more intolerant and closed-minded Atheists than anything. As soon as they find out I'm a Christian, I am all of a sudden someone who must be hated. I don't push my beliefs on anyone, I don't act high and mighty or anything that we Christians are accused of. I'm mostly quiet and I'm a nice guy. Atheists are the first to make any noise at the first sign of anything religious; but if they truly believe that there isn't a God, then why can't they be peaceful in that belief? Why do things religious bother Atheists? If there isn't a a God then they must be letting nothing bother them. If they're mad about our stances on certain issues based on our spiritual beliefs, that's our business, that's our choice to believe, just as you're free to believe in a Godless world. We obviously don't agree with Atheists on important things; but a good Christian isn't going to turn around and hate you in return. That goes against our core beliefs. We're commanded to love the sinner. Jesus saved even those who have committed the seemingly unforgivable; so we're suppose to love in the same way, we love the unforgivable.

Response by PO3 Tanis Huston made Apr 3 at 2015 3:29 AM

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Although I believe religion is ok as long as everyone has the right to choose, there is also a fine line where your right to choose should NOT be 1. Intrusive to another's right fir their beliefs, 2. Step on anyone's toes, I'd your religious beliefs is offensive to another then it should be checked at the door, that's what churches are for, for the common believers to meet together and share in their beliefs, and 3. Should not be a veil or coat to do wrong and harm to others, that crosses the line to view point #1

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 3 at 2015 4:39 AM

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MAJ Private RallyPoint Member. What scares me has less to do with rather discrete nonthreating practice of cultural and religious traditions . . . but rather more to do with the broad exercise of formal government or broader social authority to sanction discrimination in the name of the "religious freedom law" to discriminate against anyone else who may not share your personal religious belief system.

Do you really believe purportedly christian conservative state government "religious freedom law" movement that claims to authorize discrimination against LGBT people is really going to stop with these groups which in the absence of federal and state legal protection have been historically discriminated against and targeted for assassination in our own country ( google LGBT stonewall killings ) . . . or do you see beyond immediate public relations smoke screen into the future where christian conservatives require the painting of religious identifying logos on personal residences and businesses and the wearing of religious identifying logos on both adults and childrens clothes . . . to facilitate religious discrimination . . . and return to nation state facilitated genocide . . . ghettos, dispossession, rounding up, transport, concentration, labor, and liquidation camps?

Let us not forget five million other people tortured and murdered by the Nazis including homosexuals, priests, gypsies, people with mental or physical disabilities, communists, trade unionists, political adversaries, etc . . .

I'm deeply concerned about return of religious / racial / behavioral intolerance / discrimination in our country.

Warmest Regards, Sandy

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The 5 Million Non-Jewish People Killed By The Nazis

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Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 3 at 2015 5:24 AM

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To answer your question, religious people that are sensitive about religion take out personally and hold it as an important part of their identity, nonreligious people who are sensitive of religion probably have been burned by the religious badly in the past. This is, of course only my opinion of what I think the most likely answers are. . . as for me, religion is a pure nonentity. I don't care what people religion is in the same way I don't care what color underwear they're wearing.

Response by LCDR Rabbah Rona Matlow made Apr 3 at 2015 11:27 AM

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A truly religious person of any faith does not kill indiscriminately or because of WHO someone is. Yes, all religions mandate certain types of war. But Imperialism is not an action or belief system sanctioned by God.

People who murder in "the Name of God" are committing what we call in Hebrew a "Chillul Hashem" (literally an embarrassment or insult of God). They are sinning and desecrating God's name, not sanctifying it, as they so perversely believe...

What ISIS is doing is NOT sanctioned by God, and I doubt it's sanctioned by the Qur'an. Granted, the Qur'anic rules about the Dhimmi are very troubling, but murdering Christians, just BECAUSE they are Christians is way outside the boundaries.

Up until 1948, Christians and Jews lived relatively well in Islamic lands (in modern times of course). In 1948, the vast majority of Jews were kicked out of Islamic lands with nothing but the shirts on their backs, due to the creation of the State of Israel. [Note that this historic fact is ALWAYS left out when crying about the plight of the "poor Palestinians" who are so oppressed by Israel...]

With the Islamic Revolution in 1979, things went from bad to worse for the remaining Jews in Islamic lands.

The fate of Christians in Islamic lands in modern times has been mixed. Lately however, Copts, Orthodox Christians, Catholics and other various denominations have been targeted by Islamic radicals all throughout the Islamic world. ISIS is the worst, but lets not forget about other Christians who have been targeted...

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 3 at 2015 12:38 PM

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I would like to say that there's nothing wrong with religion, but truthfully there is. Religion isn’t the only problem, but it IS a problem. I understand that faith in a greater good is comforting, but fabricating a reason for living is .. actually kinda sad. We should believe in those we love, the future, and mostly ourselves. We should become something to believe in. Religion is a lie, and you shouldn't need lies to live. The sooner we all drop the fantasy of religion and see and accept the world as it is, is the sooner we become accountable for our actions and behaviors. On that day we will be free … and evermore closer to God.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 3 at 2015 12:43 PM

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Religion is a Prime Evil always was always will be!!!

No before everybody wants to stone me to death, of course only those of you who are without sin, let me add something.

It is perfectly fine if you believe in something, what or who ever that might be and to practice your beliefe. No issue with that.
When you start organizing it and going around telling everybody about your view (most of them are pretty absurd and twisted) and try to force people into believing the same stuff you are worng. As wrong as it gets.

Having faith or believing in something is fine whe you organize it or put it in categories it is not fine anymore because at that point it's nothing more than organize crime.
Personally I think religion should be banned from public life since it has no place there. Practice whatever you want but don't force it on me.

Nothing has caused more suffering and death than religion.

Response by SFC Collin McMillion made Apr 3 at 2015 4:16 PM

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Cpt, I have no idea, what if any religion you ally to, but I do believe that throughout history religion has been one thing that makes people go crazy. To have a world where we just excepted loving and peace loving religions living side by side with peace and harmony just is not going to happen?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 3 at 2015 7:39 PM

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Who are they agreeing with?

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Apr 3 at 2015 7:46 PM

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Religion is a personal belief system and IMHO, it shouldn't be used as a personal judgment system. We're never all going to believe the same way. There are radical Christian groups just as there are radical Islamic groups who do violent things in the name of their religion.

Then again, a lot of folks are out there trying to label themselves along racial, ethnic and gender association lines and judging others who don't agree with them.

Response by Cpl Ryan Presson made Apr 3 at 2015 7:53 PM

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Why is this click bait shit on the site? Isis doesn't give a shit if Xtians are on rally point as much as Muslims are. This is such a devisive topic that it will cause problems. This article should be removed

Response by MAJ Bryan Zeski made Apr 15 at 2015 6:19 PM

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Religions can't be bad. Religions are made by people. People can be bad and then use the "authority" of religion to do bad things to other people for personal reasons.

Response by SGT Anthony Rossi made Apr 26 at 2015 1:10 AM

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It it's clear that Biblical religion is largely responsible for setting the foundation of our country. Therefore it is foolish to think that we can remove it from our Culture and expect to be better off. Show me a country that does not have a Christian background that respects people even if they disagree with them?

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 26 at 2015 1:10 AM

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This poll headline, like so many of other articles/polls posted here, is obviously biased toward chrisitans.

I would not say christians shouldn't be welcome here, but the religion itself, as well as any other religion shouldn't be welcome here. It seems some of the admin of RP have decided to use this forum as their own personal pulpit; Their tool for proselytizing.

It's obvious to me this forum isn't about serving veterans and service members, it's about pushing christianity onto service members.

I'm starting to wonder who funds this forum... Is it funded by the government, or by a big business, or possibly by a church.... It's an interesting question.

Response by Maj Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 26 at 2015 8:22 AM

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I know you can't just put like 20 different voting options, but I'd say my pick was more a variation of "religion is okay as long as each is free to choose". For myself it's more like, "I think faith in itself is bad, but religion or lack-thereof is a personal matter, and no one should force their beliefs or lack-thereof upon anyone else."

Response by SGT John Wesley made Apr 26 at 2015 8:41 AM

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In regards to your question.

It is not right to strike out at another religion due to supposed sins of that religion.

Unfortunately, most religions do. I'm not against people's belief in God, but if it gives you a feeling of superiority, well then it's a problem. Being righteous and humble are great things, being self-righteous and shoving it down someone's throat isn't.

ISIS wraps itself in the Quran while killing indiscriminately. Christian or Muslim, they don't care. They will be stopped.

Those of you who condemn the Muslim faith have forgotten that we as Americans have fought for religious freedom, not just Christian freedom, but all religions.

Less you forget, the original settlers of America came here because they were persecuted in England. Funny how in our zeal to promote our faith, we forget that....

Response by SrA Daniel Hunter made Apr 26 at 2015 10:03 AM

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I am Christian. There are numerous churches and other religions that I do not like. I will not force you to listen to me about my experience or my faith. Those that do aren't working on faith. Violence comes from man, sometimes they use religion as a political tool to gain support. The saying goes, "seek and ye shall find" not submit or die.

Response by SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. made Apr 26 at 2015 12:33 PM

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There should be an "This is a divisive question" option
I was not aware that ISIS had publish a statement about RP at all.
Please cite the reference.

Response by SSG Arnie Jones made Apr 26 at 2015 9:12 PM

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I am confused with Subject.. I hope ISIS is not on Rally Point!

Response by SrA Edward Vong made Apr 27 at 2015 1:26 AM

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I prefer a secular government however, everyone is free to choose their beliefs. When a belief poses a threat, and is being acted upon, and it interferes with national safety, human rights, and discrimination, then it becomes a problem.

Response by MSG Scott McBride made Apr 27 at 2015 7:26 AM

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Your example of using ISIS as a reference towards religion is poor taste. I'm not a religious man and respect those that are, but will never condone the use of these murdering hypocrites to make my point. Fuck ISIS and their views towards any one. What gives them the right? Just sayin'

Response by PO2 Kevin LaCroix made Apr 27 at 2015 2:01 PM

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An over simplification, but religion needs to be treated like ones hands, keep them off other people, unless asked.

Response by SFC Charles S. made Apr 27 at 2015 4:56 PM

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This is a People problem not a religion problem. People take into their own hands things that make other people stereotype what they did with what they claimed they were doing it for. This has nothing to do with the claim as much as it does the person who claimed the reason.

There is good and bad in all PEOPLE... They choose to act either good or bad. It's not the religions fault that caused them to be bad, they made that decision for themselves.

NOW, that being said... are the some Groups that should be eliminated from the planet... such as ISIS? YES, but it's because they are filled with EVIL people doing BAD things; not because they are Muslim or Islamic. They just happen to be either of those. We should just MOAB "Massive Ordnance Air Blast" Blanket Party everywhere they are known to exist.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Apr 27 at 2015 5:24 PM

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Throughout the history of mankind, religious zealots have committed some extraordinary vicious acts against others. ISIS is no different. They want to create a Islamic Kingdom where fellow Shia and any other people are killed as a means to an end.

Response by SGT Rick Ash made May 17 at 2015 11:50 PM

2015-05-17T23:50:47-04:00

As Christians we are given "free will" so our actions are our own. I never push anything on anyone. I am aware that many Christians are too zealous and we have to rein them in one by one. Don't PUSH anything on any one....

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2015 1:06 AM

2015-05-18T01:06:00-04:00

religion and the free exercise thereof are the cornerstone of all basic freedom. The personal actions of an individual can be traced back to his value system. That value system can then be traced back to a specific religious upbringing (more often than not anyway). So by allowing all to believe as they wish so long as it does not violate the law or anyone else's freedom to believe differently, then freedom of action is ensured.

Response by SPC Charles Brown made May 25 at 2015 2:23 AM

2015-05-25T02:23:32-04:00

A person who kills in the defense of their religion is defending what they believe in. A person who kills because of their religion does not truly understand a belief in God by any name. People kill other people, religion can be used as an excuse just like the "I was only following orders" was a "good" defense at the Nuremberg trials.

Response by LTC John Shaw made Jun 2 at 2015 2:23 PM

2015-06-02T14:23:08-04:00

Human secularism = absence of religion running government, is as bad as a dominant religion.

The problem is people who use religion or the absence of religion as their justification of claiming power over society/you. Can we all can agree to pluralism?

Government human secularist says to all the other groups, you are subordinate, this is a problem.

As a Christian, I see more secular humanistic motivation to eliminate any religious historical or belief reference. This has become as bad as Islamist tradition of one faith/one government.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 4 at 2015 9:33 PM

2015-06-04T21:33:05-04:00

No one, including Muslims, should be excluded from RP because do or do not practice or embrace a particular religion.

That being said, religion has no place in the military, or on RP, and shouldn't be discussed here at all.

Response by SSgt Trenton Losh made Jun 4 at 2015 9:52 PM

2015-06-04T21:52:15-04:00

I feel the problem isn't religion, it's people. All Islamists are not bad people. Yes their faith has certain beliefs, but they should have full right to practice it. I feel like people and Christians forget (or don't realize) that during the crusades, many people were killed in the name of religion. While this does not condone the actions of current radical religious groups, one can not judge an entire faith because of a minority of individuals.

Response by LCpl Mark Lefler made Jun 5 at 2015 1:29 AM

2015-06-05T01:29:11-04:00

I'm an atheist but I think this is completely horrific. Its one thing to believe in your religion and to speak about it and show your zeal about it, its another to step over the line and oppress and hurt people and god forbid start killing people over it.

Response by SPC Ei McS made Jun 5 at 2015 7:11 AM

2015-06-05T07:11:45-04:00

I don't care what ISIS thinks!

Response by 2LT Charley Gibbs made Jun 12 at 2015 2:04 AM

2015-06-12T02:04:53-04:00

Sorry I'm so late dropping in. Had my colon removed at the OKC VA (wonderful bunch of folks BTW) and just now getting to feel social. Anywho, Daesh (derogatory term for ISIS/ISIL) are fighting and killing to further geo-political aims. "Religion" as in Islamic/Muslim beliefs have zip, nada, zilch to do with it. And yes their constant praying and braying on the media services may sound like your garden variety zealots, but they are being cleverly directed from (pick a Mideast capital city) and when they all get together it is this mess. The local madrasah and mosque are rich resources for the influentially powerful and rich beyond belief monsters who are 'lurking'. I don't, but someone in command knows these people by name. Glad bin Laden is dead. But he was a miniscule part of the crapstorm over there (which is now over here technically). I can't exactly type what my WW II battleship fireman father would have said to do to these so-called people. The gist goes something like fornicate them to death from a great altitude. While urinating. Collateral damages? These mass murderers love to surround themselves with family friends. Sooooo....no innocent bystanders. And the sooner we quit playing footsie with the real fiends behind this religion-tainted debacle, the better.