ISIS CLAIMS responsibility for the Texas Shootout at a Muhammad cartoon contest. IF SO, What do YOU think ISIS has learned?

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This is a serious but not so serious post about what lessons ISIS might've learned when they Messed with Texas. What are you thoughts??

"Authorities say the suspects, identified as Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi, drove up to the building where the contest was being held in the Dallas suburb of Garland and opened fire. An unarmed school district security guard was wounded before a Garland police officer returned fire and killed both men."

So they drove up to the gate and basically committed suicide by cop. Nothing was accomplished except for two more terrorists sent to hell. I like that outcome. And really, why should we give a rats about hurting their wittle feewings when they are hell bent to kill us all???

GOOD Jesus baby Christ....

AND PS!! I know we have a LOT of bright people here.... ISIS CLAIMS!!! CLAIMS!!! So some will get what I am asking.... Good God all mighty... I have ELABORATED. Jesus

CLAIM: state or assert that something is the case, typically without providing evidence or proof.

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made May 5 at 2015 10:08 AM

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It's sad that people will kill others in the name of their religion.
It's a cartoon, if your god can't handle that, then I don't know what to say.

Response by SFC Stephen King made May 5 at 2015 10:10 AM

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This needs to be a warning that all should heed. I applaud the state of Texas for their quick reaction. Also the officer who took care of the situation should be mentioned as well. Today's society spends entirely too much time expressing their dishearten views towards police.

Response by SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. made May 5 at 2015 10:25 AM

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Lesson learned?
Don't send a couple Arizona whackos to do the job?

Response by CPL Brendan Hayes made May 5 at 2015 10:26 AM

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To some extent, this seems like something from one of those "World's dumbest criminals" shows. It's a lot like the person who tried to rob a gas station with a uniformed police officer in line behind him. Or, the guy who tried to rob a gun store with a knife. Texas does not mess around. Texans are a great bunch of folks, but, typically speaking, they don't take crap off of anybody.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 5 at 2015 10:28 AM

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This should be the standard kill them before they can even get a fair trial.

Response by PO1 John Miller made May 5 at 2015 10:47 AM

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Us Arizonans will be glad to help out our Texan brothers and sisters. We are also legally armed (Arizona is an open and concealed carry state, no permit required as long as you're legally able to own firearms) and many of us are veterans and/or hunters with extensive weapons training.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made May 5 at 2015 11:18 AM

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I am sorry to say, I doubt that they learned a darned thing. People like this are beyond thinking and learning. Their indoctrination has already been accomplished.

Response by MSgt Rob Weston made May 5 at 2015 11:27 AM

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Gotta Love Texas

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 5 at 2015 11:40 AM

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ISIS is too stupid to learn a lesson from this.

Response by MSG Brad Sand made May 5 at 2015 11:50 AM

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My actual thoughts, I guess we are lucky that it happened in Texas instead of a Blue State or the story would have been about how police gunned down two more men of color.

Response by Capt Richard I P. made May 5 at 2015 1:07 PM

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So, Operationally I wouldn't pick Texas as a good location to attack American Citizens. Maybe some members of terror groups learned that. Arguably the smart ones already knew it.

Odds are this was a tactical decision by 'lone wolves' without guidance from ISIS operational leadership.

These guys were dumb. Tactically we got super lucky they were so dumb. Who attacks the first part of an Entry Control Point instead of infiltrating deeper to do more damage? Who when attacking it does so with rifles and armor and is still shot dead by a single defender with a pistol? Idiots, that's who.

The officer who shot and killed them is a hero. He needs a medal and a position teaching combat pistol shooting to all Texas LE.

The officer of the off-duty detail who set up this security might do well to review basic tactics. Covert over-watch of your ECP is elementary.

Response by LTC Stephen C. made May 5 at 2015 1:09 PM

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SGT Private RallyPoint Member, as much as I hate to admit it, I believe Capt Private RallyPoint Member to be correct. What makes it worse, they're perceived as martyrs by their peers which only foments the situation.
That being said, I'll end with "Don't Mess With Texas!"

Response by SGT Jeremiah B. made May 5 at 2015 1:15 PM

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I'm not sure ISIS had anything to do with this really. Not in any formal sense anyway. So what did they learn? There's an expendable sucker born every minute and maybe, just maybe, shouting random calls to action on social media works.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 5 at 2015 1:29 PM

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They learned Texans shoot back #DontMessWithTexas

Response by SPC Charles Brown made May 5 at 2015 2:30 PM

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Nothing.

Response by LTC Paul Labrador made May 5 at 2015 2:31 PM

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I think it may have thaught them to pick softer targets for next time....

Response by SFC Charles S. made May 5 at 2015 2:40 PM

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SGT Private RallyPoint Member Yeah, you just gotta Love Texas... There is so much Win in this Image.. :) I just can't help smiling.

Response by CPT Bruce Rodgers made May 5 at 2015 2:52 PM

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Response by MSgt James Mullis made May 5 at 2015 3:02 PM

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Hopefully nothing! Because I really like the idea that Achmed (the dead terrorist) has a couple of new friends. However, if I were writing an after action report I could think of several mistakes they made.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 5 at 2015 3:05 PM

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http://bigstory.ap.org/article/2c5ee77748054aa4957714b0af0100a0/accused-texas-gunman-was-former-target-fbi-terror-probe

A little update. Why does this tend to happen?? I wonder what it is that made the FBI NOT think he was a target anymore??

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made May 5 at 2015 3:21 PM

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They get 72 virgins each.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 5 at 2015 3:50 PM

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I applaud the police officers doing their job. I am sickened by how the media covers these things now. As for ISIS learning a lesson, the only lesson they learned is where not to go. This tactic was used in Iraq many times over. Send a few drones i.e. Low level operatives. I am afraid to see what is next since we didn't even react to this one (at the higher levels).

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 5 at 2015 3:56 PM

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I think hopefully ISIS has learned that their BS won't be tolerated and the same attitude should be reflected in all states just like in Texas.

Response by SFC Charles S. made May 5 at 2015 4:46 PM

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SGT Private RallyPoint Member After 1 inning of Gunplay Texas has jumped into an early two nothing lead. Got to love Texas!

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 5 at 2015 5:18 PM

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They went to do their attack in one of the most gun loving counties in the most gun loving state in the most gun loving country on the planet. I say is this is what isis gets to bring to the table i say bring it.
"Cocks shotgun"

Response by SFC Charles S. made May 5 at 2015 5:38 PM

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SGT Private RallyPoint Member This just in... the Officer who took down the terrorists was just a normal Patrol officer with a service pistol, NOT swat gear. Apparently they teach their officers marksmanship and how to Shoot in Garland. Nice.

Response by SFC Mark Merino made May 5 at 2015 5:46 PM

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Don't you get a new pistol every year just for being a resident of Texas? (lol) Not the smartest idea. Then again, talk about baiting someone into action. The humorous conspiracy theorist in me says the entire event was designed by Texans to bring the extremists to the event for a little terrorist hunting. Terrorists are always in season, but Texans aren't known for having their pinkies out. The only time a Texan has a pinky out is to see if the chamber is empty in the dark.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 5 at 2015 6:39 PM

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God Bless Texas!!

Well, they learned a valuable lesson, don't mess with Texas. Go to California instead!! To many liberals!! LOL

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 5 at 2015 7:33 PM

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Born and raised in Houston, Texas. I am licensed to pack heat and if I feel me or my family are in danger, I will shoot to kill. I Love Texas except for the Gulf Coast mosquitoes . They're so big you will need a transfusion after they bite you.

Response by LTC Bink Romanick made May 5 at 2015 7:37 PM

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ISIS makes many claims just to make people think that they're global badasses. These guys are homegrown wannabes. They wanted to be martyred ...they got their wish.

Response by Sgt Nick Marshall made May 5 at 2015 7:49 PM

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Get over the hyperbole of Texas, assuming it was ISIS inspired, they were planning on dying. Allowing such an easy access to guns makes it much easier for suicide missions like this to happen.

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 5 at 2015 8:41 PM

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They werent there to learn if they did learn anything it was how disrespectful people can be to religions. On both ends.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 5 at 2015 9:17 PM

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Considering the fact that it seems that only islam is protected by the media, and any criticism of the infiltration in our Western societies is deemed Islamophobia, without even trying to addressing the questions of their well documented intentions to create a religious based government and laws that clearly be detrimental for women and children as well as other religions, there seems to be no other way to stand up

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 5 at 2015 9:50 PM

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Response by LTC Bink Romanick made May 5 at 2015 9:53 PM

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These guys were homegrown wannabes not ISIS. They wanted to be martyred they were martyred. Now this is their reward.

Response by LTC Bink Romanick made May 5 at 2015 9:56 PM

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Nothing they weren't ISIS... ISIS claims a many deeds but it's part of their propaganda.

Response by SGM Gregory Tarancon IV made May 6 at 2015 6:46 AM

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ISIS Lesson Learned - Jihadist are not "Bullet Proof"

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2015 8:29 AM

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Couple of thoughts on this... many already mentioned.

1. My gut is these guys were only associated with ISIS in their own minds. Wannabees.
2. While I agree that fomenting the act by having an event such as this only asked for trouble it seems fair to me that Karma jumped up and slapped them early. No need to waste $$ on a trial.
3. The reality is had this happened in a blue-er state we'd probably be hearing about Fed civil rights violations from the US AG.
4. It is also likely that many talking heads will voice the opinion that what these two wannabees were doing was justified because of the blatant disrespect for Islam.
5. With the current national mindset (a minority mindset with those I know, I might add) that all things liberal (or of a liberal slant) are acceptable, good and just, my gut is that we will also hear the standard Intolerance line from the talking heads - the line that says its okay for Wannabees to act this way to defend Islam but not okay for ______ (fill in the blank) to act to defend - our flag, our religion (whichever you choose to follow), unborn babies, our fellow service members...
6... I could keep going but all here know where I'm coming from.

Semper Fi.

Response by SGT Bryon Sergent made May 6 at 2015 10:15 AM

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Well I have my CHL. I carry a 1911A1 and at least an extra mag. There are a couple in my truck, there are a couple in the night stand and a couple other places in the house strategically placed through out. I live a few miles away from where the attack happened. All I can say is the are messing with the wrong state. This ain't up north or the Northeast. You will get shot here!

Response by SSG John Erny made May 6 at 2015 10:41 AM

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Hey lodi dodi, I see your body, dead jihadi joe

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2015 11:16 AM

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I have to tell you that our car club just had a meet at a gun shop. We had enough weapons to arm a platoon. The next time someone has an event in our area that may be a potential target will well hold a meet and everyone will have their trunks full of guns. If they show up they are going to get a surprise.

Response by PO3 John Jeter made May 6 at 2015 11:22 AM

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I doubt ISIS has learned much of any kind of lesson from this except about getting press coverage. Consider this; They "lost" two assets of questionable value. They had no investment in these two men except for rhetoric. They will use them for the "martyr for the cause" propaganda in recruiting more walking brain dead. There IS a value in being able to claim responsibility for terrorist acts in the US. It will aid in recruiting among the radically inclined and easily swayed. I don't believe ISIS is prepared for the outcome if they manage to really gain our hostile attention though. So far our attention has been pretty much incidental. Some air attacks and logistical support for the forces opposing them. If they DO actually manage to make an effective strike in the US they will gain unforeseen opportunities to meet their "master" in large numbers.
Considering this entire incident reminds me of those old commercials where the bugs tromp into a home and bump into something. They look up an shriek "RAID!" just before they explode.

Response by 1LT Nick Kidwell made May 6 at 2015 11:30 AM

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Well, as a native Texan, I have the predictable response at first, then I look a little deeper...

The whole idea behind the "draw Mohammad" contest was simply hatemongering and was offensive to me as a Christian. I can't imagine how it might have looked to a Muslim.

Now, were the attackers justified? Nope. Not in the slightest, and the result was predictable.

But were the art contest participants and organizers honoring their fellow humans and respecting their beliefs? Nope.

I would liken this to stirring up a yellowjacket nest simply for the purpose of getting them to sting, giving you an excuse to spray them with poison.

Response by SPC Angel Guma made May 6 at 2015 12:15 PM

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ISIS probably had nothing to do with it per se, they want to ride on the publicity of it. Its pretty sad at the end of the day.

Response by SSgt Rusty Warner made May 6 at 2015 12:19 PM

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This is a much larger political problem that I have been expecting for years now. When I retired I went to Mexico the next day, just because I wasn't allowed to while I was in. When I crossed back into the United States my passport showed up on the border patrol agents computer screen with a different name. He told me that this was normal for about 80% of the traffic that he saw at his terminal and let me on through. Really? Luckily I am an American but if we don't have control of our borders, and we are letting everyone come and go as they please, then we cant be surprised when a few terrorists come in too.

Response by SFC Rollie Hubbard made May 6 at 2015 12:47 PM

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Not a damn thing other than getting into Mexico and close to the border is very easy.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2015 1:34 PM

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I really don't think ISIS had anything to do with this attack. I think it is likely ISIS leadership, once they heard of the possible extremist group connection from the one shooter, saw an opportunity to imply their presence in the US and their ability to conduct an operation. ISIS has not shown it's ability to conduct terrorist attacks outside the Levant, so being able to imply their global reach may give them more "street cred". The only ones to support or dismiss their claim of responsibility are dead.

I am surprised they claimed responsibility, though, as it is pretty evident there was an extreme lack of planning conducted by the two gunmen. Planning and reconnaissance have been one of ISIS's strong points in regards to it's operations, although tactical patience has not been.

Response by CPT Pedro Meza made May 6 at 2015 1:50 PM

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I will correct you, ISIS has learned, simply they are just demonstrating that they are very tech adapt and make use of any possible physiological operation opportunities. As for the "Nothing was accomplished except for two more terrorists sent to hell. I like that outcome." you need to remember that for ten years Al Qaeda attempted to bring down the Twin Towers, which means that this was just the beginning and there is more to come so we need to be more vigilant.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made May 6 at 2015 2:01 PM

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Are their ties to ISIS?

Response by LTC Stephen F. made May 6 at 2015 2:14 PM

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ISIS leadership, like all strict Wahhabi Sunni Muslims trumpets the belief that the sure-fire way to get to be with their version of Allah is to die in Jihad against un-believers. Everyone of their operatives, sympathizers, or wannabes who is killed in Jihad is lauded in propaganda and used to encourage others - many willingly with some being coerced.
Expect more of the same in the coming months around this nation. Hopefully most if not all will be interdicted prior to the execution of their missions.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2015 2:49 PM

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So let me get this straight. ISIS comes intending to kill everyone, they end up deader than roadkill and the only damage we sustained whatsoever was a man getting shot in the ankle who has already gotten out of the hospital. Yeah, mission accomplished. Two dead terrorists in exchanged for a boot on a foot? I'll take that any day.

Response by SGT Tom Bowers made May 6 at 2015 2:56 PM

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If you check out their latest announcement, they laid out the next 5 States where an attack is planned. All are liberal, anti gun states. California, Illinois, Michigan, Massachusetts, etc. That should say it all. They learned their lesson from Texas. I just hope the "no guns allowed" signs do their duty and stop the attackers in their tracks...

Response by SGT Rick Ash made May 6 at 2015 4:16 PM

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JP,
They learned nothing. They have already stated publicly the attacks will continue in number and intensity Nationwide. We need to be ready and no doubt, Texas will be!
Rick

Response by PVT Matthew Stanley made May 6 at 2015 4:44 PM

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How are we sure it was ISIS. Where is the evidence. They could be claiming responsibility for the shootout to make people think they ISIS can get to the people. I think they want Americans to feel vulnerable. Do the shooters have any connection to ISIS?

Response by PO1 Michael Fullmer made May 6 at 2015 5:05 PM

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Stay out of TX for one thing, and that there are more folks with guns ready to defend themselves and their country then they can ever hope to handle.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2015 5:54 PM

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I don't understand the reasoning here. Yeah, let's pat ourselves on the back (like anyone on this forum had anything to do with the attack), but ISIS doesn't care how many guns we have. ISIS isn't afraid of people having weapons. The activities of terrorists will simply evolve to not include traditional weapons, like on 9/11.

I'm glad these two were morons, but I doubt this issue is anywhere near settled in the US. And only if we're lucky will simply shooting one of these MFers be a viable solution.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2015 6:54 PM

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It doesn't actually matter if this was really ISIL or not; the lesson for them is the same. They will know that America has security armed and in-place for political events. They will probably coordinate an attack on security before attempting entrance to an event like this in the future.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2015 8:01 PM

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Response by Capt Ron Sherlock made May 6 at 2015 8:45 PM

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What ISIS has learned:
1) Am I correct they were armed with assault rifles and body armor and a single officer took them out with his service pistol? Hit softer targets next time. I know their targeted event was in Texas but that is the last state you would want to mess with and the event was prepared for such hostility.

2) If they want to kill us, they need to send in professionals. Poorly trained converts who are well armed are hardly a match for a well-trained marksman.

Response by SPC Carl K. made May 6 at 2015 8:48 PM

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Don't mess with Texas!!!. Seriously, I hope this makes them realize we are not one of those crappy Third World countries they have been dominating. Here, we will kill them without blinking an eye.

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made May 6 at 2015 9:01 PM

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Them two ISIS boys left their etchins' behind. ISIS should have learned, "Don't mess with Texas" and don't hire idiots to do mass killings.

Response by Sgt Serina Ruiz made May 6 at 2015 9:24 PM

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Not sure why there was a Muhammad cartoon drawing contest. Pretty stupid. But yeah "Isis" (if it was them) clearly overreacted.

Response by PO1 John Miller made May 6 at 2015 9:55 PM

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That was akin to robbing a gun store with a knife!

Response by PO1 John Miller made May 6 at 2015 9:58 PM

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A more accurate meme:

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made May 6 at 2015 9:57 PM

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Texas has its own army!

Response by PO3 Eugene Rizzardi made May 6 at 2015 10:36 PM

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Don't mess with Texans

Response by SSG Jason Neumann made May 6 at 2015 11:26 PM

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It's kind of funny how they think there are going to accomplish anything, but being killed. What message were they trying to send? How fast our Police officers can draw and control their groupings? Consider that a "GO" at this station. Any others, will be put in their place and expedited to their safe haven up above where they are linking up at. Im sure their mohammed is rolling in his grave. Anyways, keep those rounds on target and make those shot groups tight. I am sure more will be willing to see how jacketed hollow points feel like.

Response by CPL Eric Allen made May 7 at 2015 12:07 AM

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i think we should hold more events like this all over just to draw these idiots out.... lets have so fun

Response by Capt Christian D. Orr made May 7 at 2015 2:22 AM

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Two lessons:
(1) God Blessed Texas
(2) Don't Mess With Texas!

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 7 at 2015 4:55 AM

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We don't play in Texas.

Response by PO3 Steven Sherrill made May 7 at 2015 10:13 AM

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ISIS learned that American Jihadis are poor marksmen, unless they intend to weaken America at the ankles?

Response by PO3 Steven Sherrill made May 7 at 2015 10:17 AM

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On another note, when it comes to their extreme views on images of thier profit, they really need to calm the fuck down!

Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made May 7 at 2015 11:33 AM

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What did the learn - don't go to Texas and pull a gun, someone will kill you!! And you know what, go to any normal State where there aren't too many liberal weenies, and they might get killed.

Response by SFC Terry Fortune made May 7 at 2015 12:20 PM

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As the saying goes " Don't Mess with Texas!"

Response by SPC David Hannaman made May 7 at 2015 12:34 PM

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Attached follow up article, ISIS claims to have 71 trained soldiers in 15 states.

Sounds like a slow day at the range to me.

I live in Texas, The only thing in the house that breathes and doesn't know how to use a gun is the dog.

If you want to take a chance with my Rottweiler, go ahead.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made May 7 at 2015 2:48 PM

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TEXAS 2 - JACKASSES 0

Response by CPL Matthew Yates made May 7 at 2015 2:51 PM

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Don't mess with Texas.

Response by SrA Diego Alvarez made May 7 at 2015 3:14 PM

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I don't think the posses the cognitive capacity to learn anything associated with civilized social structure.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 7 at 2015 5:32 PM

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Oh Looky! One of the Cartoons...
Bahahaha

Response by SPC Nathan Freeman made May 7 at 2015 5:54 PM

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Texans aim before they shoot. We're gong to need more than 72 virgins, i mean soldiers to make an impact.

Response by SSgt Boyd Welch made May 7 at 2015 5:56 PM

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They learned that they will be challenged in the US when it comes to small arms fire. They also learned that it's better to go after the soft targets like politicians and sympathizers to claim that their actions were justified because they were offended......
We as a nation do way too much in the way of trying to soothe offended people.....

Response by SrA Jonathan Carbonaro made May 7 at 2015 6:03 PM

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Simple,
Don't Mess with TEXAS!!!!

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made May 7 at 2015 8:59 PM

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I think ISIL needs to re-evaluate their PR campaign if they are claiming credit for a botched attack where the only casualties were the perpetrators.

Response by Maj Private RallyPoint Member made May 8 at 2015 5:36 AM

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Personally, I think that's all it was, a claim.

Response by Cpl Patrick Reade made May 8 at 2015 8:07 AM

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Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made May 8 at 2015 8:56 AM

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i think it's telling ISIS that they may get their butts kicked but they can still cause problems on American soil

Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made May 8 at 2015 8:56 AM

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i think it's telling ISIS that they may get their butts kicked but they can still cause problems on American soil

Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made May 8 at 2015 8:56 AM

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i think it's telling ISIS that they may get their butts kicked but they can still cause problems on American soil

Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made May 8 at 2015 8:56 AM

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i think it's telling ISIS that they may get their butts kicked but they can still cause problems on American soil

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made May 8 at 2015 3:53 PM

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Pick a softer target in the future.

Response by CH (MAJ) Private RallyPoint Member made May 8 at 2015 4:13 PM

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I think they learned that no matter what they do or try, the media and politicians will support them and consider the terrorists the "victims".

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 8 at 2015 5:12 PM

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Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 8 at 2015 5:20 PM

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The threat is real!
Attempting to pass prohibition of the 2nd Amendment, is like keeping the hen house oppen for the wolves.

Response by SGT Joe Sabedra made May 8 at 2015 8:27 PM

2015-05-08T20:27:36-04:00

I saw on the ISIS hit list that now all the target states are liberal states with gun control.

Lesson learned.

Response by SGT Joe Sabedra made May 8 at 2015 9:00 PM

2015-05-08T21:00:49-04:00

Response by SGT Joe Sabedra made May 8 at 2015 9:01 PM

2015-05-08T21:01:40-04:00

Response by PO1 Glenn Boucher made May 8 at 2015 9:42 PM

2015-05-08T21:42:08-04:00

ISIS probably didn't learn much more than they already know about us. Their whole purpose is to instill terror and fear in their enemy. You make people hyper vigilant and you will see those same people turn on each other because of fear of what is hidden.
ISIS, Taliban, Boko Harum, etc., they all just want to instill fear of what will happen next and get the people paranoid.
On other sites you see Texans full of bravado about how you don't mess with Texas, were that true ISIS would never have messed with Texas, they would have stuck a softer, easier target.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made May 8 at 2015 11:50 PM

2015-05-08T23:50:18-04:00

Had I known there were going to be some terrorists in the local vicinity while I was on the George Bush I would have turned south. But by the time I heard it on the news the tangos were already down. Great job Garland PD.

Response by MSG Martin Griffith made May 9 at 2015 8:51 AM

2015-05-09T08:51:10-04:00

I think CPL Hayes post is almost directly on the mark, world's dumbest terrorist... I found it comical that Isis said other text would be even bigger and more vicious. the fact that a 60 year old police officer armed with only his service revolver ended the attack, and their lives, in only 19 seconds makes that claim far less terrifying.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 9 at 2015 7:01 PM

2015-05-09T19:01:06-04:00

I think they learned that screwing with Texas is going to require a much bigger stick to swing. They picked a state that literally has more guns than human population. Texas has a history of a violence of action. I don't really think ISIS had anything to do with it so much as they just wanted to see if they could scare anyone by claiming they did so ISIS could say they had proof of insurgents in the states. That plan has a tendency to backfire when the best they could do was injure a rent-a-cop and get obliterated by a small town cop. Rioters in Baltimore are a bigger threat to national security than your "jihadists." Stick to attacking 3rd world countries.

Response by PFC Tuan Trang made May 9 at 2015 7:09 PM

2015-05-09T19:09:22-04:00

Is getting crazy everywhere worldwide and statewide. Even thought we're fighting terroist but there always be another one.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 9 at 2015 7:11 PM

2015-05-09T19:11:16-04:00

I'm also kind of insulted that they attempted this with those two amateurs. It was Texas after all. You'll need a small army to put a dent in anything.

Response by SPC Daniel Edwards made May 9 at 2015 11:01 PM

2015-05-09T23:01:27-04:00

They just learned the hard way that there is a reason for the saying, "Don't mess with Texas."

Response by MAJ Randy Gregory made May 20 at 2015 12:05 PM

2015-05-20T12:05:20-04:00

They should have planned their hit in Illinois or California or Maryland or Washington DC where the people aren't allowed to be armed and the laws prevent them from defending themselves or others from lethal threats.

Response by LTC Stephen F. made May 30 at 2015 9:54 AM

2015-05-30T09:54:08-04:00

ISIS propaganda seems to be taking cues from Brian Williams as well as Joseph Goebbells - Nazi minister of Information.
Like Brian Williams some of their reporting is accurate. And like Brian Williams they tend to claim responsibility for and participation during events after the fact that may have been influenced by them or not.
ISIS seems to be following Joseph Goebbels lead when he said: “The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over.”
“We shall go down in history as the greatest statesmen of all time,or as the greatest criminals” also fits ISIS very well.
Millions of lives were lost in the war that resulted in the defeat of the Nazis. I hope that the loss of life will be significantly less by the time ISIS is defeated. I hope that something akin to the Simon Wiesenthal who will be hunting down and bringing to justice those ISIS criminals that escaped the noose so to speak. MAJ Ken Landgren, 1LT L S, SGT Private RallyPoint Member, SPC Charles Brown, SGT Rick Ash, MAJ Private RallyPoint Member,

Response by SGT Lawrence Corser made May 30 at 2015 4:43 PM

2015-05-30T16:43:13-04:00

of course they did, they have to seem viable here in freedomville. they may be able to influence people over the internet but most likely all the influence will be killed or arrested.
They also prob did a very poor aar and was like well mohammed didnt wear a pt belt soo...