Is your unit allowed to give you a PT test and height/weight on the same day? I tried looking it up on 600-9, but I need a definite answer.

2016-05-03T21:57:21-04:00

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 3 at 2016 10:01 PM

2016-05-03T22:01:00-04:00

That's how every unit I have ever been a part of does it. It's better for the Soldier as it gives you a chance to sweat off a few pounds.

Response by SFC Randy Purham made May 3 at 2016 10:01 PM

2016-05-03T22:01:00-04:00

It is not the preferred method, but it is authorized. It is actually outlined in both AR 350-1 and FM 7-22 where it talks about APFT and H/W. What is your issue with both being done on the same day?

Response by SFC John Hill made May 3 at 2016 10:11 PM

2016-05-03T22:11:30-04:00

From AR 600-9 The Army Body Composition Program; para 3–4. Weigh-in and body fat assessment. b. In order to ensure the ABCP does not interfere with Soldier performance on the APFT, commanders and supervisors are encouraged to allow a minimum of 7 days between APFT and weigh-in, if feasible. Some Soldiers that are close to exceeding the screening weight may attempt to lose weight quickly in the days leading up to a weigh-in. This practice may result in the Soldier being unable to perform his or her best on the APFT, if the two events are scheduled close together.
App B–2. Height and weight measurements. b. The weight will be measured with the Soldier in stocking feet and wearing the authorized physical fitness uniform (trunks and T-shirt); running shoes will not be worn.
Note the "encouraged" and “if feasible” statements in the paragraph.

Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made May 3 at 2016 10:17 PM

2016-05-03T22:17:43-04:00

Every APFT I took was followed by a weigh in and measure, even the one I took at the SGM academy. Many do.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 3 at 2016 10:29 PM

2016-05-03T22:29:41-04:00

Is this for knowledge or because someone is worried about passing weight? Every Soldier in the US Army should be ready at anytime (barring recovery from a surgery or such) to be able to pass a PT test and HT/WT. If you are worried about being fat, because I have before, you need to step back and take a quick look at yourself and reasses were you are on stabdards

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 3 at 2016 10:41 PM

2016-05-03T22:41:08-04:00

For the first 13 years of my career that's how it was done. Now in the last two years a lot of units have gone to doing them a week apart

Response by SPC Stephen O'Hara made May 3 at 2016 11:02 PM

2016-05-03T23:02:13-04:00

Nope

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made May 3 at 2016 11:12 PM

2016-05-03T23:12:12-04:00

Yes they may, although it is RECOMMENDED to do it no later than 7 days after the recorded APFT

Response by SSG Jeremy Kohlwes made May 3 at 2016 11:18 PM

2016-05-03T23:18:45-04:00

I have never known it to be done any other way, at least for the 13 years I was in.

Response by SGT Jerrold Pesz made May 4 at 2016 1:15 AM

2016-05-04T01:15:17-04:00

I took lots of PT tests but I have never had a weigh in and measure. However I would agree with SFC Boyd that it would be better for the soldier to do the weigh in and measure right after the PT test. If a person is a little over it could result in him losing seversal pounds before the weigh in a measure.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 4 at 2016 2:51 AM

2016-05-04T02:51:18-04:00

SPC Lopez,
SFC Hill already provided your answer, but I'd like to address for you, and the people you're asking for, the "allowed" part.

My first impression on reading this question was that someone was worried about passing height and weight and was looking for a legalistic way to "void" a tape test. We should be wary of searching for answers in an attempt to usurp the Chain of Command or play "gotcha" with our leaders.

Best of luck!

SSG Barin

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 4 at 2016 5:58 AM

2016-05-04T05:58:21-04:00

Yes! You need to be within all standards 24/7.

Response by CSM David Heidke made May 4 at 2016 8:19 AM

2016-05-04T08:19:42-04:00

It's not feasible for the Reserve components to do the two 7 days apart.

We have always done it the same day.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made May 4 at 2016 8:49 AM

2016-05-04T08:49:47-04:00

It is not strictly forbidden so it is authorized to do so. It's not even pushing the limits to do so. If someone is so near to height weight that they need to "cut" in order to make it, they don't need to cut...they need to change their lifestyle.

Response by CPT Mark Gonzalez made May 4 at 2016 8:50 AM

2016-05-04T08:50:48-04:00

Key word in the regulation is "encouraged" to allow seven days. I believe the max is 30 days and it was done due to Soldiers dropping dead on APFT's having cut too much water weight for the HT/WT. There are several regs for the APFT and HT/WT from the AR, FM, and TC.
All Soldiers are allowed to complain. However, losers complain with no solutions and winners fix the problem or find solutions. Be careful if looking to regs to prove your leaders wrong. Regs are black and white and most events in life and people are grey. You want a leader with experience and the regs to help guide, but if you wanted just the regs a robot could be your leader and that isn't how human interaction works.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 4 at 2016 9:45 AM

2016-05-04T09:45:40-04:00

That is usually how it is done. The old regulation said you have to do it within 30 days but the revised regulation says commanders are advised to give Soldiers at least 7 days. But every unit I have been assigned to did both the same day to save time. Ultimately it falls on the commanders discretion.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 4 at 2016 9:54 AM

2016-05-04T09:54:53-04:00

Recommended 7 days apart but within 30 days (give or take a few days) at a max....per the reg but not exact wording.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 4 at 2016 11:59 PM

2016-05-04T23:59:22-04:00

You can weigh and tape up to seven days after the PT test AR 600-9 chapter 3 3-4

Response by 1SG Timothy Trewin made May 5 at 2016 7:09 AM

2016-05-05T07:09:18-04:00

Yes they can although they don't have to. They do have to give you a HT/WT within seven days of an APFT, however.

Response by SSG(P) John Newcomb made May 9 at 2016 6:39 PM

2016-05-09T18:39:54-04:00

Yes. I believe the reg says that the unit can do it anytime within 7 days of the APFT

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 11 at 2016 7:49 PM

2016-06-11T19:49:11-04:00

In my unit, we usually tape the individual twice, immediately following the pt test and one week later so there can be complaints concerning the wording of 600-9 bc it is left to interpretation.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 7 at 2019 6:50 AM

2019-03-07T06:50:23-05:00

It depends on the unit and for what reasons they have. You can ask the commander to wave it because by regulation it’s recommended that CDR give 7 days for a soldier to get weighted. Sometimes if you’re going to school for promotion, if there’s not enough time, they will do it on the same day. I guess it’s different in every unit.