SFC Private RallyPoint Member 112812 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I had a Soldier complain about a headache, went to TMC and got 48 hours quarters, another who said he had knee pain.....went and got oxycodone and a profile. Another who keeps going on about TBI even though he wasnt involved in any TBI events while downrange(said it was from basic training) and he went and got seen and the PCM gave him Narcs, Profile and put him in IDES for MedBoard.<br /><br />I talked to many others and they say this one Primary Care Manager(PCM)doesn't care, he will give out Narc prescriptions like they are candy and write you a permanent profile if you simply ask. Is this wrong or am I just freaking out on this "new" Army. 2014-04-27T11:28:18-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 112812

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I had a Soldier complain about a headache, went to TMC and got 48 hours quarters, another who said he had knee pain.....went and got oxycodone and a profile. Another who keeps going on about TBI even though he wasnt involved in any TBI events while downrange(said it was from basic training) and he went and got seen and the PCM gave him Narcs, Profile and put him in IDES for MedBoard.<br /><br />I talked to many others and they say this one Primary Care Manager(PCM)doesn't care, he will give out Narc prescriptions like they are candy and write you a permanent profile if you simply ask. Is this wrong or am I just freaking out on this "new" Army.

2014-04-27T11:28:18-04:00 2014-04-27T11:28:18-04:00 SGT Private RallyPoint Member 112818

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is wrong!!

2014-04-27T11:41:02-04:00 2014-04-27T11:41:02-04:00 SGM Matthew Quick 112832

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This as nothing to do with any perceived 'new' Army.<br /><br />Not sure how you know exactly what the conversation was between the patient and the doctor, or what is actually going on medically with the patient, but if truly an issue with this, talk to the NCO Support Channel and chain of command.

2014-04-27T11:57:12-04:00 2014-04-27T11:57:12-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 113687

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Before you start spilling all sorts of stories, what you are receiving is completely hearsay. The proper way to redress these issues is to have the commander address it directly with the provider in question and/or the commander of the TMC if there is an obvious pattern.<br /><br />Playing devils advocate here, many times soldiers with migraines may only complain of a headache to non-medical providers, but based on the symptoms, their history, and what medications they react well to, they may require an opiate coctail to knock out the headache. Allthough I will agree 48 hours does seem excessive for even a migraine. <br /><br />not saying that you are, but there is nothing good that can come from you pushing any sort of off the books investigation or digging into what this provider has given or done for other soldiers. You can inadverently cross lines that have both legal and financial consequences.

2014-04-28T15:04:51-04:00 2014-04-28T15:04:51-04:00 SSG Robert Burns 115020

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>SSG Ledbetter, let me give you some insight and I am basing this solely off the information you have provided.<br />1. First Soldier complained to you about a headache. A headache can be a symptom of something else. He probably got quarters for what was causing the headache; not the headache itself. Completely normal.<br />2. A profile is completely normal and standard for knee pain. Pain is subjective. If the Soldier complains of severe pain, you have to treat severe pain unless you have a reason to believe the Soldier is a drug seeker which is very difficult.<br />3. TBI is a very lengthy and involved diagnosis. TBI&#39;s also don&#39;t only come from down range. It can come from a head injury anywhere. Also you just aren&#39;t &quot;put&quot; into IDES. That is a very lengthy process as well and requires a diagnosis. If he had been diagnosed, that is not done by his PCM who you are claiming is the issue. There is an entire clinic dedicated to this. Every Soldier with a TBI is on a profile. But it has nothing to do with that PCM.<br />4. Permanent profiles must be justified and reviewed. It is not just the actions of this PCM.

2014-04-29T23:17:40-04:00 2014-04-29T23:17:40-04:00 SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member 115034

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>SSG Ledbetter,<br /><br />Without sitting in the PCM's office with the Soldier who is seeking medical assistance, hearsay is all you really have even if it is from the Soldier who just walked out of the PCM's office.<br />I would advise against airing stuff like that on an open forum site. You're among brothers and sisters in arms here, but there are official channels that your grievances regarding the PCM in question should be addressed to. <br />You may also consider that it's important to have conclusive facts regarding any wrongdoing before posting about something that has the potential of ruining someone's career provided an investigation is initiated based on your disclosure of what appears to be wrongdoing.<br />I've been down that road brother. It gets dicey when the questions start flying and you can't provide concrete evidence to back the statements. If you have concrete evidence then great. You have a case, but present it to the proper channels.<br /><br />Respectfully,<br /><br />SSG V.

2014-04-29T23:46:13-04:00 2014-04-29T23:46:13-04:00 2014-04-27T11:28:18-04:00