Is there fair treatment in sexual consent or does it favor one gender over the other?

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 28 Oct 2015 10:08:41 -0400

Are we fair as a military or society on consent? Or is it a double standard?

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 28 at 2015 10:12 AM

SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 28 Oct 2015 10:12:28 -0400

LTC Private RallyPoint Member EO complaint here...

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 28 at 2015 10:17 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 28 Oct 2015 10:17:03 -0400

I think the way it is being implemented favors female complainants. It does not inherently favor anyone as it requires mutual consent.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Oct 28 at 2015 10:23 AM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Wed, 28 Oct 2015 10:23:52 -0400

First one to the MP's wins!

Response by SrA Edward Vong made Oct 28 at 2015 10:50 AM

SrA Edward Vong — Wed, 28 Oct 2015 10:50:25 -0400

Many say that it favors females, however statistics say that females are more likely to report sexual consent cases then males do. To be fair, it favors the first one to report.

Response by SSG Warren Swan made Oct 28 at 2015 11:03 AM

SSG Warren Swan — Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:03:15 -0400

Personal opinion.....it's definitely in the females favor. Nothing wrong with that being that men are stupid sometimes, but when alcohol is involved, who's word is golden? She doesn't remember something, and neither does he, but there's a good chance his career is over based off an bad thought or assumption of what happened the night before. Both parties should think before acting when it comes to sex, especially when alcohols involved, but alas it doesn't happen that way. I also know that most of the sexual assault briefings are catered towards the thought that the man has done wrong. So a woman cannot have her way with a drunken man? Sounds weird, but you cannot have it just one way.

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Oct 28 at 2015 11:14 AM

Capt Seid Waddell — Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:14:29 -0400

When was the last time you heard of a drunken man charge a woman with rape the next morning, and be taken seriously?

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 28 at 2015 11:15 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:15:34 -0400

It doesn't say who initiated the sexual encounter and because it will be a he said she said situation they should both be charged with the rape.

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Oct 28 at 2015 11:34 AM

SGM Erik Marquez — Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:34:09 -0400

SrA Edward Vong "To be fair, it favors the first one to report."
Took the words right out of my mouth

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Oct 28 at 2015 11:44 AM

MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca — Wed, 28 Oct 2015 11:44:19 -0400

I generally feel that consent favors females. Look how it is always played out in the media. I think a lot of folks feel that because the male owns the equipment he's the only one that bears the responsibility for when where and how it is used. When both are intoxicated though, who's to say.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 28 at 2015 12:05 PM

PO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 28 Oct 2015 12:05:01 -0400

well ... just stay away from it ... completely. That will keep your youth too :) lol

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 28 at 2015 12:08 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 28 Oct 2015 12:08:46 -0400

I would say that as a rule the training tends to favor the female. Most of the videos and examples used are typically women being the victim and men being the aggressor.

Response by CAPT Kevin B. made Oct 28 at 2015 12:11 PM

CAPT Kevin B. — Wed, 28 Oct 2015 12:11:34 -0400

Depends on the society. Favors males in most of Asia and the Middle East. In our culture it tends to favor the women but that's a change form say around 40 years ago. The "Yes means yes" notion floating around is a recent attempt to have something that offsets males thinking with their puny brain. Interesting thing is socially women are encouraged to report while men are not. Although the first in to report does get favored, that gap has narrowed a bunch over the past 10 years but is still there. There's also an increase in "revenge reporting" just to get even for being ditched for being a butt. We'll never get it fully right as the moral values keep adjusting, hence whatever was put in place last year was already out of date. Welcome to humanity.

Response by SGT William Howell made Oct 28 at 2015 12:41 PM

SGT William Howell — Wed, 28 Oct 2015 12:41:54 -0400

So the cop is going to come out in me on this. As a police officer in domestic violence cases the law in my state says, "You SHALL arrest a person who commits domestic violence." Most laws say you MAY arrest, but not domestic violence. Somebodies going to jail. It is pretty black and white when only one person has marks of a struggle, but what happens when both do? I always gauged it on who was able to leave. A 6' 240 pound man and a 5'3" 140 pound woman - the guy was going to jail. It has went the other way every once in a while, but not very often.

I think the same applies here. Who was able to leave or to stop the advances of the other? You just slip and fall into sex. Somebody has have the ability to preform the act. I would say that would be the man in most cases.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 28 at 2015 12:44 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 28 Oct 2015 12:44:36 -0400

Men are most often guilty until proven innocent!