Is the University of Missouri Racist or are the Students' Demands Racist?

2015-11-10T07:40:01-05:00

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Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 10 at 2015 7:59 AM

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Let's trace the events that got the situation at hand to where it is.
Let’s trace back the events that led to this point:

August 9, 2014: Michael Brown is shot and killed in Ferguson.

August 16, 2014: MU graduate student Jonathan Butler (remember that name) attends Ferguson protests.

August 17, 2014: The first “Hands Up, Don’t Shoot” protest is held on MU’s campus, led by Butler after his return from Ferguson.

August 16-18, 2014: Two Missouri students are arrested, detained for hours, and released without being charged or read their rights while attending protests in Ferguson.

August 24, 2014: Columbia is the first municipality in the state of Missouri to require body cameras on all police officers on patrol.

August 27, 2014: Protests continue on MU’s campus, with a silent “Hands Up, Don’t Shoot” march completing without any violence.

December 12, 2014: MU students stage a “Die-In” protest at the Daniel Boone City Building in Columbia. Previously, all student protests had been on campus.

March 17, 2015: Racism protests begin to focus inward, as a heated campus forum is called with University Chancellor Bowen Loftin to address racial discrimination and hate crimes on campus. No specific promises on action are made.

September 12: Missouri Student Association President Payton Head claims in a Facebook post that he was harassed on the street by students in a truck yelling racial slurs at him. The MU administration took no public action.

October 5: The Missouri Legion of Black Collegians were subject to harassment with racial slurs on campus while rehearsing for a concert, and posted a letter to Twitter once again decrying the administration’s lack of action.

October 8: Chancellor Loftin announces mandatory online diversity training for students, faculty and staff.

October 10: A protest group known as Concerned Student 1950 (referring to the first year in which black students were admitted into MU) interrupts the Missouri Homecoming Parade to block President Tim Wolfe’s car, demanding he do more to address racism. Wolfe does not exit his car and police disperse the protesters. Concerned Student 1950 later demand Tim Wolfe’s resignation.

October 24: A swastika drawn in human feces appears on an MU dorm, for which no suspects have been named or arrested.

October 27: Concerned Student 1950 meet with Wolfe, who doesn’t budge on any substantive reform and refuses to leave office.

November 2: Jonathan Butler announces he will go on hunger strike until Wolfe resigns. Wolfe does not respond.

November 3: Wolfe releases a statement promising to work at change and increased tolerance, but does not address the hunger strike and refuses to step down. Sit-ins and boycotts of school products begin on campus.

November 6: Wolfe releases another statement expressing concern for Butler’s health (he was on day four of his strike at the time), regrets for not exiting his car during homecoming, and again refuses to step down. Later that night, he is confronted by MU students at the university’s St. Louis campus, where he claims that systemic oppression is “because you don’t believe that you have the equal opportunity for success.” It didn’t go over well:

November 7: The black players on the MU football team (about half the roster) announces their intention to strike if Wolfe does not step down.

November 8, Wolfe released a statement that "change is needed" and offered to release a plan in April 2016 to accede to demands for diversity. Chancellor Loftin offered to require diversity re-education for students and faculty in January 2016. However, student groups and protests were only emboldened as a result.

November 8, Wolfe steps down.

November 9-10 Students continue to protest.

Now after reading this what do you think of the situation? Are the students behaving the way we want our future leaders to behave, regardless of color?

Response by MSgt Curtis Ellis made Nov 10 at 2015 8:38 AM

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To a degree, I think they both are...

Response by SSG Audwin Scott made Nov 10 at 2015 9:14 AM

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I don't have enough detail at this time to determine who is.

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Nov 10 at 2015 9:44 AM

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I think the answer lies somewhere in between. I don't believe that the university president was truly racist but I do believe that this whole chain of events could've been prevented if he would just talk to one another instead of shouting and acting irrationally

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Nov 10 at 2015 9:49 AM

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Both. All human beings are racist. Some for hating a race, some for loving a race, but all humans have race on the brain. It's a byproduct of our species propensity for tribalism and the identification of "other".

Response by Sgt Kelli Mays made Nov 10 at 2015 10:39 AM

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mmmhhhhh? A tough one. I believe a little of both, but I think the students are going a tad too far with it.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Nov 10 at 2015 11:01 AM

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You tell me, after reading this.

http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/mizzou-football/heres-list-demands-mizzous-protesting-athletes-students/

Here’s the list of demands from Mizzou’s protesting athletes, students

The Legion of Black Collegians released a list of demands on Saturday of items they want carried out before things return to normalcy on campus at Missouri.

Response by SSG Warren Swan made Nov 10 at 2015 11:49 AM

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Neither. I'm of the position I'm going to wait and see. Was there mistakes made? I'm not a student there, nor am I completely informed of the intimate details concerning the students demands. I would hope that they made these demands out of actual cause, and not just pull a rabbit out of the sky and bitch about it not being what they wanted. I hope that with his resignation this chapter can be closed and everyone can move on to bigger and more important things. I also know there will be tidbits of information that will come out as time moves on regarding this and I'll be able to make a more informed opinion. What's going to suck for everyone there and here, is how the media will spin this to suit their narrative. This will be both PRO and CON. It'll wind up each of us figuring out what spin to believe. But I've posted on this before, and I'm going to stand by what I said. If I want change, I have to make sure MY house is CLEAN, before demanding someone else's house be as clean as mine.

Response by CW3 Jim Norris made Nov 10 at 2015 1:01 PM

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Yep, Absolute start of anarchy. Indeed, Welcome to the Jungle should be their theme song.

Response by Sgt James Howard made Nov 10 at 2015 1:57 PM

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The students are ridiculous. Come on, on what grounds are you demanding that the president of the college leave? He made no racist comments? He had no scandal? I don't understand what they expected him to do! Did they expect him to don a "Black Lives Matter" hoodie because some drunk redneck used a racist slur at a party? They pretty much demanded that he be replaced with a black president. Maybe I'm all turned around, but isn't that kind of racist?

Response by SSG Buddy Kemper made Nov 10 at 2015 2:05 PM

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The University Admin and board are weak and the students are just plain goofy. Have you seen their list of demands? These kids are a bunch of rich, spoiled, rotten, teens& 20-something Millennials, of all races, who need their butt's kicked. Hear ya go, Missouri
students: Enroll in an inner city college or a school in rural Appalachia. PAY FOR YOUR OWN SCHOOLING& give your trust funds to the poor. Volunteer with inner city youths, or disabled vets or elderly citizens and help people who are ACTUALLY hurting and have real grievances. You are not being oppressed OR disenfranchised at college in 2015, dummy's. Get over yourselves.

http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/mizzou-football/heres-list-demands-mizzous-protesting-athletes-students/

Response by Lt Col Stephen Petzold made Nov 10 at 2015 2:26 PM

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Agree with the others that say a mixture. The MU President could have acted sooner and more affirmatively, but also some of the demands seem a little out there too. But then college campus are screwy places now...

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/11/the-new-intolerance-of-student-activism-at-yale/414810/

The New Intolerance of Student Activism

A fight over Halloween costumes at Yale devolves into an effort to censor dissenting views.

Response by TSgt Donnie Meaders made Nov 10 at 2015 4:50 PM

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The students demands are racist! I have no doubt there are problems there but I wonder how much of it is self-induced. As always, you reap what you sow. When you walk around with the victim complex always blaming someone else for your problems, people tend to respond. Of course using the "n" word or swastikas was an immature and deplorable response but chances are, if you walked around campus you heard some blacks using a variation of the "n" word continually but if someone of another race used it, oh that is automatically racist. The double standard if you ask me. Take responsibility for yourself, do what you know is the right thing, and quit using the race card every time you don't get your way. This was nothing more than a bullying of the college and the president.

Response by SPC David S. made Nov 10 at 2015 5:30 PM

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Well if we are admitting and selecting people by race and not merit then it looks like the football team may have to many black athletes.

Funny that a nearly all black team (probably a good many on school scholarships) is complaining and threatening to go on strike due to diversity issues. Talk about calling the kettle black.

As well what about other minorities other than the black demographic. If you really take diversity to extremes you have to include all the parts in the aggregate.

Curious if this would be the case if the President was black.

Response by LTC Trent Klug made Nov 10 at 2015 6:46 PM

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This is what democracy turned mob rule looks like. Thank God the founding fathers founded the country as a Constitutional Republic!

Response by CPT Ahmed Faried made Nov 11 at 2015 1:47 AM

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As with any issues pertaining to justice you can easily see where people stand based on their reactions.

Response by SrA Art Siatkowsky made Nov 11 at 2015 1:57 AM

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the person who made the swastika and the students are racist. the white privilege bs should be considered racist if we want to follow through on liberal political correctness...i say we should do what liberals do when someone speaks out against their ridiculous political correctness...have the person fired and fined...i say lets group together and have a sit in untill the swastika guy and those idiot students are expelled and fined...(only problem is that we work)

Response by Lt Col Jim Coe made Nov 11 at 2015 10:49 AM

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I don't see how this could be possible. Missouri is run by Democrats. The Governor is a Dem. The leadership of the UM system are most likely liberal Dems or they wouldn't have the job. The facility and staff at UM is full of liberal professors (first hand knowledge of this). I just don't get it. Aren't liberal Dems the most open-minded, inclusive, non-racist, non-sexist, non-whatever people on the planet? Didn't the liberal-affected public school system shape and "educate" most of the students attending MU? They should all be well trained young liberals who wouldn't think of insulting or offending anybody. Something must be very wrong.

It is. The entitlement generation is in full force at UM. They expect everything to be handed to them free of charge or responsibility. They believe they have a God given right not to be offended, let alone discriminated against, or held accountable. (Oops, I forgot they've been taught there is no God, so make that a Government given right.) They want free higher education without meaningful grades so they can "earn" useless degrees that won't get them an assistant manager job at a fast food place. Many of the football players receive financial aide that could be cut off if they fail to practice or play according to their football conference rules. Their coach wasn't brave enough to remind them of that. They'll all get participation trophies along with the "full ride" education for their athletic prowess. God help us!

Response by SPC Sean Barney made Nov 11 at 2015 3:36 PM

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THis is fucking bullshit
Forcing a man to resign because he's white? Forcing the school to hire none white female staff for "equality".
We are a democracy and we operate under EQUALITY OF OPORTUNITY
what these retards are tyring to force is Equality of OUTCOME
the difference being (if you don't know) Eo Op is allowing anyone to pursue a field and carreer regardless of race sex or creed. as long as you meet the standards you will succeed.
Eo Out is saying, even if you don't meet any standard for a job you can get it because victim hoom.
I'm adlibing but these retards expect handouts and to take the jobs away from people who EARNED them so some dumbass who didn't study can have that job instead. Fuck them, let them starve themselves and fail their classes, It's a sports team you retards they don't deserve to be heard.

Response by Sgt Kelli Mays made Nov 11 at 2015 6:00 PM

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I read a little more about this and watched a few news shows and videos and I have to say I believe the Students and some of the FACULTY (Shame on them) are taking this a bit too far....the students are unruly and out of touch with reality.

Response by SSG V. Michelle Woods made Nov 11 at 2015 7:17 PM

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I believe it's just like any other controversial issue: if I'm not personally there to experience, I don't feel I have a right to argue one way or the other.

Response by TSgt Kenneth Ellis made Nov 11 at 2015 9:30 PM

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One they don't have to prove anything. There are no pictures of a Nazi insignia drawn with poop. Sorry could not google the more precise term. And the black kid on hunger strike. His DaD made eight million last year. And that bozo wanted the president of the university to apologize for his white privilege. Now I'm going to be called one of those citizens. Know if you are ever affended you can tell the dean and they will take action. Journalist are not allowed on campus. But I guess being white is a crime now.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Nov 12 at 2015 7:01 PM

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I can't find where racism has anything to do with what is happening there. It's more about the rise of political correctness beyond mere loss of freedom of speech. It is now political correctness elevated to transcend freedom of thought. The Left wants control and now they are taking it out of the hands of those too weak to wield it. If someone doesn't stand up to these bullies soon, we are doomed.