Is the Ten Commandments valid today? Or are they just the ten Suggestions?

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Response by SCPO Morris Ramsey made Oct 21 at 2019 11:46 PM

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The Ten Commandments are still valid. Some might argue about it, but not me.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 22 at 2019 12:40 AM

2019-10-22T00:40:36-04:00

Well, that can be a long conversation... let me see if I can develop a short response.

So basically, can different parts of the Bible be divorced from the whole? Are some parts no longer relevant? Broadly speaking, no. The Bible must be taken as a whole; it is a complete, historical, and divinely inspired work.

Per the commandments specifically, yes they apply today. The original Hebrew in Deuteronomy is often translated commandments for a reason (Deuteronomy 5 if I remember right). Christ did not change ancient Hebrew law, he fulfilled it.

Now begins the conversation on sotorieology. How are we saved in Christ? By the law?...

Response by LTC David Brown made Oct 22 at 2019 4:09 AM

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Christ demonstrated the Commandments have a “spirit” an underlying truth. While we try our best we still can not keep the commandments. People develop sexual desires, lust if you will, for people they find attractive. Christ told us that is adultery. If we see the luxury other’s have and live in that is envy, the sin of coveting. It is impossible not to trespass the law and sin. We are not saved by keeping the law but by grace. Because we live God we strive to please him. But, depending on our own righteousness leads to pride, arrogance and legalism. “ At least I am not like these others” said the proud man in the Temple. I often think of sin like this. I may be but a tiny blade of grass in my sin but at least my sin isn’t like this fellow here who is a mighty towering pine tree of sin. I forget that God is at 50,000 feet and it ALL just looks green with sin. So we strive to do good to our fellow man but know it is but a reflection of God’s love for us.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Oct 22 at 2019 5:46 AM

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They are God's Law.

Response by Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth made Oct 22 at 2019 9:20 AM

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Yes they are valid. "Matthew 5:17 “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18 For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not [h]the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches [i]others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever [j]keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 “For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven."

As a nation our laws are bases on the commandments.

Response by LCDR Joshua Gillespie made Oct 22 at 2019 10:08 AM

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As far as I'm concerned...yes. Scripture is a complicated subject; theology derived from it more so. However, if one believes (as I do) the account of how these were given to mankind...God Himself handed these down to Moses. That's about as legitimate a set of "Standing Orders" from the ultimate Commander in Chief as I can imagine. The problem is, they were not given to Moses in English. Since the tablets, along with their container, were lost to history long ago...we have the oldest transcriptions, and translations from the various ancient languages contemporary to them. However, my personal sense of it is that the heart of the true believer hears the truth in these words, whether English, Hebrew, or Greek.