CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana 6274620 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It has been reported that China has the largest Navy in the world. The PLA is the largest Army globally. However, does any of this size match the might of the United States and Russia? In the context of current events in the Indo-Pacific region. 2020-09-03T11:43:54-04:00 CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana 6274620

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It has been reported that China has the largest Navy in the world. The PLA is the largest Army globally. However, does any of this size match the might of the United States and Russia? In the context of current events in the Indo-Pacific region.

2020-09-03T11:43:54-04:00 2020-09-03T11:43:54-04:00 CPO Rob Ponce 6274637

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Great questions. The answer to your first question is yes. They have the largest military with regard to numbers. The answer to your second question is no (or perhaps not quite). The reason for this is because of they deploy and their command and control. There’s lots of research out there to go deeper if you want to know more.

2020-09-03T11:49:08-04:00 2020-09-03T11:49:08-04:00 1SG Private RallyPoint Member 6274670

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>That&#39;s OK.<br />They have a lot of targets.

2020-09-03T11:57:06-04:00 2020-09-03T11:57:06-04:00 SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member 6274712

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>They may have sheer numbers, but their force is mostly littoral combat craft, and amphibious assault craft (both carriers and landing craft). However, over the last decade or so, they have begun building a blue-water navy. Currently they are building carrier task groups, and amphibious assault task forces. They clearly have departed from littoral defense to power projection. Intel says that China has built at least two aircraft carriers, have another six in various stages of production, and are looking at an end strength of at least 11 carriers. China has been building landing craft and amphibious assault ships for over a decade. Taiwan will be their first step in dominating the South China Sea and half of the Pacific. So when Taiwan falls, it&#39;s on.

2020-09-03T12:08:03-04:00 2020-09-03T12:08:03-04:00 MAJ Ken Landgren 6274976

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This thought process is promulgated by WWII. The US navy continued to tighten the noose around Japan after each naval engagement. I think the huge moderating variable is we are in China&#39;s back yard, but China&#39;s navy would have to travel a long distance to reach America.

2020-09-03T13:06:14-04:00 2020-09-03T13:06:14-04:00 CPT Jack Durish 6275277

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Mere numbers mean nothing. What matters is the size and quality of the forces at the point of contact. Inasmuch as the PLA doesn&#39;t have the ability to project that force across the Pacific, it represents a far greater threat to Russia than it does to US. And, inasmuch as China hungers for the vast natural resources of Siberia, it is far more likely to adventure in that direction. All of which makes me wonder what the hell they&#39;re doing messing with India.

2020-09-03T14:38:03-04:00 2020-09-03T14:38:03-04:00 PO2 Private RallyPoint Member 6275368

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;m wondering how advanced is the Chinese Navy.

2020-09-03T15:06:05-04:00 2020-09-03T15:06:05-04:00 Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen 6275401

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>In their case I somehow think number of platforms matters for nothing. The real question is do all those platforms have secure communications with the central authorities who are the only ones that can tell them what to do.

2020-09-03T15:16:47-04:00 2020-09-03T15:16:47-04:00 CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member 6275467

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Quality usually prevails over quantity. During &quot;The Threat&quot; (USSR) buildup they said the same, while ships were rusting in port, no pay for troops. Their one Carrier broke down and had to be towed in (RU) recently. China may have enough troops to build a human bridge across the ocean, but their centralized C&amp;C structure is not conducive to mission continuity. This is not good in dynamic maneuver warfare.

2020-09-03T15:36:35-04:00 2020-09-03T15:36:35-04:00 PFC Private RallyPoint Member 6275688

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>They have the man our to outnumber the Kremlin but their tech is on par with Russia. I think three targets that could start a war are Tawian,the Chinese sea islands, an India. If china an India go to war we shouldn&#39;t intervene let India prove they can be a world fighting force against the evil PLA. I don&#39;t think the current state of navy could handle china it needs to be bigger they need to recommission ships sitting in the mothballs. Our technology is no longer superior to China&#39;s like it was to the Japanese during WWII. They keep copying everything we delevope an find ways to make it better to use against us. Their military is more disciplined an conditioned for war we are tactically trained better. I don&#39;t believe anyone can or will win a war against china alone. It would take the combined might of india,us,Japan,sk,an Australia to knock them on their asses.

2020-09-03T17:14:52-04:00 2020-09-03T17:14:52-04:00 SFC Casey O'Mally 6276135

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think that China can go toe to toe with the US or Russia and fight a good fight. Maybw even make it to the twelfth round. But, eventually, either of us (Russia or US) would get that KO. That is... In a one-on-one fight. I cannot speak to Russia&#39;s military commitments, but I do not see the US getting in a one-on-one fight. We have too many places where we have strength dedicated and where pulling that strength for a China War would have disastrous results (NATO, the middle East, and Afghanistan off the top of my head). So, without allies, a Us-China War ends with either a Chinese victory or a Russian one (I.e. we pull our strength to focus on China, which gives Russia the greenlight to strengthen and expand Syria&#39;s role in the mid-east, re-build the USSR by taking all of Ukraine, allowing Belarus to fold in to them, and then watching the Dominos fall, and re-assertong itself in Central Asia with neither the US or China to put them in check.) Either way, the US loses.<br /><br />I am pretty sure that the folks up on capital hill who specialize in this stuff are WAY smarter than me and have already figured this out and gone much farther with it. For that reason, I simply do not see a one-on-one fight. If we go to war with China, we are bringing the UK, Australia, and New Zealand, at a minimum, with us. Our hat (Canada) will likely join because it would be impolite not too. And given their history pkus the dire implications if China wins, Japan is likely joining the fray, as well. The big wild card will be Russia. They have MUCH more to gain in the short term by a Chineae defeat, but probably more to win in the ling term by a US defeat. Will they sit on the sidelines and watch? Take an active role? For who? Or use the distraction to grab power elsewhere?<br /><br />But that is just my assessment.

2020-09-03T19:20:57-04:00 2020-09-03T19:20:57-04:00 SSG Harry Outcalt 6283291

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>well the Dragon is vastly different than the Bear, first the Dragon is rich ,so rich the Bear pales in comparison.. Second the Dragon has stolen from the Eagle technologies in an attempt to close the gap .. Third the Dragon Army trains to defeat 1 Military in the world, that of the Eagle... And lastly the leaders of the Dragon Army do not play to lose to anyone ever again... And on a final note, The Dragon Army is highly trained, well disciplined, and well equipped with battle tested stolen technology adapted to defeat the technology used by the west and very confident and highly motivated to get revenge on the Eagle for past aggrievances... Summation, although the Dragon Army has fought the Eagle&#39;s Army 2 times and won against a much superior technologically advanced military, they have proven that our technology can be overcome by sheer manpower and willingness to sacrifice the many to achieve the objective... One can only hope our future leaders do not underestimate the true power of the PLA, in a 3rd rematch , because it will be a fight to the death...

2020-09-05T23:00:39-04:00 2020-09-05T23:00:39-04:00 SPC Will Thorson 6398230

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It doesn&#39;t matter how big a navy the chinese have or their army. They still don&#39;t have the amphibious capabilities or the actual experience or training to actually do anything. Their submarines are all old Soviet diesel subs, their aircraft carrier is based on old Soviet era type ships. Their carrier aircraft cannot carry a payload big enough to do much damage, one reason is that the aircraft being used are underpowered, a major issue with Chinese aircraft in general. Their carrier fighters can barely carry any kind ordnance, their new transport aircraft has woefully under powered engines. In fact, the Chinese copy so much that they have serious issues making strong enough aircraft engines on their own. There was a report a few years ago where the limitations of the chinese military was laid out for the world to see by accident. Their officer corps is riddled with inept officers who got promoted because they had family or were friends with people in the communist party. Between that and they follow orders so strictly that initiative is a major issue. Pilots rely on commanders away from the fight to give them orders to do their jobs. If you want proof, go look up every encounter with opposing militaries since 1951. The U.N. (Majority the US) killed 1 million chinese, they invaded vietnam and lost 75,000, they got into a fight with Soviet forces and lost around 10,000 in an artillery strike because they were still using their &quot;mass before attack&quot; way of fighting. They have had several run ins with Soviet forces since 1960. And just a few months ago with India, got into a literal fist fight in the mountains where they lost over 40 dead and 100 hurt because their soldiers thought they could try to bully the Indian army, they lost around 20 killed. The thing with China is that force size and capability and experience don&#39;t add up to anything involving experience. They do The same thing over and over again. Yes, their command finally are realizing that their NCO corps needs to be updated along with their officer corps. I honestly don&#39;t think the majority of countries in that region are afraid of China militarily. Because they&#39;ve usually seen them in action already. The one thing China has is the ability to mess with internal capabilities of the US and it&#39;s allies. Causing all kinds of issues electronically. But they can have the largest everything in the world, but where would they go? ( military capability wise?). Yes, they are sticking their nose in Africa and South America. But one thing they need is ports outside of China. The U.S. has had 100s of years of Naval experience in the entire Pacific and have built up strong friendships and allies across the region. China hasn&#39;t. They try to bully their way around and just don&#39;t get far. Perfect example was when the Malaysian airliner crashed and China had to ask Australia to get fuel for their ships because they did not have the infrastructure to stay out at sea for extended periods of time. For the Chinese navy, it was quite embarrassing. So after all this diatribe, the size of anything means nothing if experience and capabilities don&#39;t match.

2020-10-13T12:19:34-04:00 2020-10-13T12:19:34-04:00 SPC Will Thorson 7023550

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Nope. They have diesel subs, their navy doesnt have the reach the the US does. Their naval fighters are so under powered that they can only carry 2 missiles. One area that they have serious issues with are jet engines. They can steal all the diagrams they want but they cant figure out jet propulsion. Lol. They have one carrier in operation and its an updated old Soviet carrier with the curved deck. They have another coming into service down the road. Their navy whether ships or experience are not worth worrying about. When they actually do something then I&#39;ll look. But remember when the Malaysian Airlines flight crashed and several ships from the U.S. and Australia went out looking for any signs. China sent warships too. They had to ask to refuel in Australia because they don&#39;t have the infrastructure or the experience to bring along support ships add in they have no allies in the region and they try to bully everyone. The U.S. has been in the pacific region since literally the beginning of the country. They also fought across the Pacific so the US has all the allies too. I&#39;m not dismissing them as a whole. They have weapons. They can use them. But their navy just doesn&#39;t have the experience or the &quot;modern&quot; ships that the US has.

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