Posted on Nov 22, 2016
Is the coining of the term 'alt-right' an attempt to associate racist organizations with all conservatives?
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I'm seeing it used more and more. It originally referred to white nationalists, but is now being used for fringe groups like the KKK.
Edited 8 y ago
Posted 8 y ago
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It is a blatant attempt to identify their racist groups with the conservative right and it is working. Everyone just assumes they are supported by the Right. I didn't know it was being used with KKK as well but I guess it will continue to grow.
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1stSgt Eugene Harless
SGT Efaw (Mick) G. - Milo Whatsisnoffigish and others have also said that the Alt-Right is not a structured organization, hence there is no vetting or allowing someone to say they belong to the Alt-right.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
1stSgt Eugene Harless - Milo is lying as usual there is a pretty substantial organization behind the alt-right headed by Richard Spencer who coined the term, it is much more socially acceptable than white supremacist or the more accurate neo-nazi. them giving the Nazi salute at a meeting has been all over the news the last couple of days.
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PO3 Ricky Foster
1stSgt Nelson Kerr - yup I know they did, and I think they did it to get more media coverage with the name.
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GOOD QUESTION! The one thing the liberal media is good at is marginalizing and discrediting those that do not share their point of view or world philosophy. You don’t see any articles and extensive coverage of the shenanigans of the ultra-left wing. And when you do it filters it in terms of reasonable dissent of the election results. But let some small fringe group of the right demonstrates a modicum of poor judgment and they go ballistic. In the recent cases the events fit a long standing narrative of the left that conservatives are Nazis or members of the KKK.
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Of Course it is but if they don't do their Utmost to Disassociate themselves from the Racist and the American Nazis of the Alt Right they will be tarred with that Association. I know not all "Conservatives" subscribe to their BS but unless they go out of their way to Push Back against the "Alt-Right" they are going to wear that Mantle Deserved or Undeserved. Silence is Acceptance in this case.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
Perspective is Everything I was a Reagan/Dole Compassionate Conservative before I became a Liberal with the Advent of FOX and the Tea Party.
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Maj Marty Hogan
PO1 William "Chip" Nagel - I am an independent and associate with who I feel will do the most good for the entire populace and not just my issues. That being said I understand your original disassociation reply- but I am Irish. I don't disassociate with the IRA, but do not support them and if I ran for office would not either. Out of 50 million people on either side- I don't think using this election to emphasize the point- is it incumbent on the person to yeah or nay everyone. I am shocked at how the media on both sides worked angles to degrade the other side. I have said this before- they then have to go back to work together to right the country. Could you after the things that were thrown out there?
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I don't see the alt-right as being your traditional conservative. I see it as more along the lines of a a more subtle version of the far right.
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Huh. Go figure. There's an Alt-Left Facebook page (closed group, of course). My communist/socialist son (don't get me started!) is a member.
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I think it's a bunch of boohoo bs. The alt right ha. Please you got campuses banning the flag. And we're worried about the alt right. Who is the alt right, and what exactly are they doing? All I have seen is a bunch of crybaby leftists crapping on every body that has served this Country. I am tired of the fake narrative being raised by the far left.
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SPC Phil Norton
SGT (Verify To See) - I agree it's a problem on both sides. I would like to see the flag burning stop. Just because you have the right to do it doesn't mean it should be.
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Sure seems like it. I haven't heard any talk about an "alt left" or "alt progressive" movement, but there are certainly fringe elements out there as well.
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It looks like the President-Elect has gave enough credence to how the media describe "Alt Right" to make a statement on it. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-disavows-alt-group-condemn/story?id=43723904
Trump Disavows Alt-Right Group: 'I Condemn Them'
President-elect Donald Trump said today that he condemned the alt-right group who was seen yelling “Hail Trump” and engaging in anti-Semitic behavior during a conference over the weekend – saying the movement is not something he wants to “energize.”In a video taken by The Atlantic, attendees of...
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1stSgt Eugene Harless
It should be noted that he didn't blast all in attendance, but addressed those who flashed the Nazi Salute and shouted "Hail Trump".
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There have always been attempts to group people together to protect or harass them. For example, Entitlements represents payments to 3 roughly equal sized groups. The first is retirees. The second are the disabled, chronically ill, elderly, and children. The last is people who could work, but for whatever reason aren't working. No one I know disagrees that retirees deserve the social security payments they receive from the system they paid into. Very few people disagree with payments to the second group. But the third group ... well even though I don't think FDR's programs were fiscally sound, at least he enrolled those who wanted payments in job training programs and put them to work building dams and roads.
Liberal politicians, wanting to gather as many votes as possible, will always try to shield this third group in the umbrella of entitlements, and cast any attempt to reduce their support as affecting one of the other two groups.
The Left and Right play this same game politically, each claiming the other is as extremist as possible. I doubt many Liberals would vote for Stalin, or many Conservatives would vote for Hitler, but it's always important to pretend they would. Even Libertarians are described by their opponents as supporting Anarchy, considered to be Libertarianism carried to the extreme.
Someone, and I think it's the extremists who fund the parties, doesn't want there to be any compromise. Being a conservative Democrat or a Liberal Republican has become a ticket to defeat in your next election. If you don't hold extremist views, you won't get financial support from your party.
I'm an optimist, but I think the vast majority of America despises the racist politics of both the extreme Left and extreme Right. But Harry Reid, in 2013, was jubilant over the reduction in approval votes for presidential appointees (except to the Supreme Court) from 60 to 51. He wanted to give Obama the power to ignore his opponents, but now Trump will benefit.
The recent election almost completely switched the Left and the Right. The Left now supports State's Rights, the Left now thinks limitations on Presidential authority is a good thing, and for the first time in history, the Left thinks the Russian government is bad. Maybe we should have learned from this and raised the number of votes from 60 to 66, to force the parties to meet in the middle where most of America is.
Liberal politicians, wanting to gather as many votes as possible, will always try to shield this third group in the umbrella of entitlements, and cast any attempt to reduce their support as affecting one of the other two groups.
The Left and Right play this same game politically, each claiming the other is as extremist as possible. I doubt many Liberals would vote for Stalin, or many Conservatives would vote for Hitler, but it's always important to pretend they would. Even Libertarians are described by their opponents as supporting Anarchy, considered to be Libertarianism carried to the extreme.
Someone, and I think it's the extremists who fund the parties, doesn't want there to be any compromise. Being a conservative Democrat or a Liberal Republican has become a ticket to defeat in your next election. If you don't hold extremist views, you won't get financial support from your party.
I'm an optimist, but I think the vast majority of America despises the racist politics of both the extreme Left and extreme Right. But Harry Reid, in 2013, was jubilant over the reduction in approval votes for presidential appointees (except to the Supreme Court) from 60 to 51. He wanted to give Obama the power to ignore his opponents, but now Trump will benefit.
The recent election almost completely switched the Left and the Right. The Left now supports State's Rights, the Left now thinks limitations on Presidential authority is a good thing, and for the first time in history, the Left thinks the Russian government is bad. Maybe we should have learned from this and raised the number of votes from 60 to 66, to force the parties to meet in the middle where most of America is.
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